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Dear London Sikhs, this is your last chance to start the biggest text campaign in history in the London Area tonight. Please text every Sikh you know in and around London asking them to be at Hyde Park 11am tomorrow morning! Please do it tonight!! Come on Londoners, it's only down the road for you. The shaheeds in the past have given their lives to keep the religion you love so much going! Coach or not Coach, LONDON Sikhs can make it to Hyde Park 11am tomorrow morning! Please be there to welcome the thousands and thousands of Sikhs coming to your City from around the country!!!

Dear London Sikhs, this is your last chance to start the biggest text campaign in history in the London Area tonight. Please text every Sikh you know in and around London asking them to be at Hyde Park 11am tomorrow morning! Please do it tonight!! Come on Londoners, it's only down the road for you. The shaheeds in the past have given their lives to keep the religion you love so much going! Coach or not Coach, LONDON Sikhs can make it to Hyde Park 11am tomorrow morning! Please be there to welcome the thousands and thousands of Sikhs coming to your City from around the country!!!

Don't forget you can make a PLACARD for this campaign which you can carry at the Rally at 11a.m. at Hyde Park London, tomorrow (5th June 2011). LONDON SIKHS PLEASE TRY AND MAKE IT TO HYDE PARK TOMORROW AS IT IS ONLY AROUND THE CORNER FROM YOU!!!

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, There are some really informative programs on 1984 all good Sikh Media today. If you can't watch it today please record it so that you can learn about your history. Sangat TV on SKY 840 are running a Remembering 1984 series all day today. I'm sure Sikh Channel and Sikh TV will be doing the same. Learn about 1984 from the stations today. Record all you can and be informed!!! Please don't forget to attend the rally at 11am at Hyde Park London Tomorrow - especially LONDON SIKHS as it's just around the corner for you!!! Please note that there will be some people on this Forum who will try and distract us from discussing June 1984 today. So please keep on bringing the 1984 threads to the top of ALL sections on this Forum today!! Benti to Admin to help us on this today

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, Please don't forget to attend the 1984 rally at 11am at Hyde Park London tomorrow. Don't forget to bring your placard with you. There is a thread on here which has ready made placards for you to print off! London Sikhs, please do you best to make it to the rally tomorrow. Get somebody please get all 3 TV stations to keep on playing the promos for the rally all day today: Sky 840 Sikh Channel Sky 847 Sangat TV Sky 848 Sikh TV It would be really good if they could encourage London Sikhs to make it to the rally in particular, as it's in their home city (just around the corner for them!)

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, I was thinking that it would be a good idea to get a list on this Forum of all the Books ever published on 1984. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, Please don't forget to attend the 1984 rally at 11am at Hyde Park London tomorrow. Don't forget to bring your placard with you. There is a thread on here which has ready made placards for you to print off! London Sikhs, please do you best to make it to the rally tomorrow. Get somebody please get all 3 TV stations to keep on playing the promos for the rally all day today: Sky 840 Sikh Channel Sky 847 Sangat TV Sky 848 Sikh TV It would be really good if they could encourage London Sikhs to make it to the rally in particular, as it's in their home city (just around the corner for them!)

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, Please don't forget to attend the 1984 rally at 11am at Hyde Park London tomorrow. Don't forget to bring your placard with you. There is a thread on here which has ready made placards for you to print off! London Sikhs, please do you best to make it to the rally tomorrow. Get somebody please get all 3 TV stations to keep on playing the promos for the rally all day today: Sky 840 Sikh Channel Sky 847 Sangat TV Sky 848 Sikh TV It would be really good if they could encourage London Sikhs to make it to the rally in particular, as it's in their home city (just around the corner for them!)

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, Please don't forget to attend the 1984 rally at 11am at Hyde Park London tomorrow. Don't forget to bring your placard with you. There is a thread on here which has ready made placards for you to print off! London Sikhs, please do you best to make it to the rally tomorrow. Get somebody please get all 3 TV stations to keep on playing the promos for the rally all day today: Sky 840 Sikh Channel Sky 847 Sangat TV Sky 848 Sikh TV It would be really good if they could encourage London Sikhs to make it to the rally in particular, as it's in their home city (just around the corner for them!)

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, Please don't forget to attend the 1984 rally at 11am at Hyde Park London tomorrow. Don't forget to bring your placard with you. There is a thread on here which has ready made placards for you to print off! London Sikhs, please do you best to make it to the rally tomorrow. Get somebody please get all 3 TV stations to keep on playing the promos for the rally all day today: Sky 840 Sikh Channel Sky 847 Sangat TV Sky 848 Sikh TV It would be really good if they could encourage London Sikhs to make it to the rally in particular, as it's in their home city (just around the corner for them!)

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, Please don't forget to attend the 1984 rally at 11am at Hyde Park London tomorrow. Don't forget to bring your placard with you. There is a thread on here which has ready made placards for you to print off! London Sikhs, please do you best to make it to the rally tomorrow. Get somebody please get all 3 TV stations to keep on playing the promos for the rally all day today: Sky 840 Sikh Channel Sky 847 Sangat TV Sky 848 Sikh TV It would be really good if they could encourage London Sikhs to make it to the rally in particular, as it's in their home city (just around the corner for them!)

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, Please don't forget to attend the 1984 rally at 11am at Hyde Park London tomorrow. Don't forget to bring your placard with you. There is a thread on here which has ready made placards for you to print off! London Sikhs, please do you best to make it to the rally tomorrow. Get somebody please get all 3 TV stations to keep on playing the promos for the rally all day today: Sky 840 Sikh Channel Sky 847 Sangat TV Sky 848 Sikh TV It would be really good if they could encourage London Sikhs to make it to the rally in particular, as it's in their home city (just around the corner for them!)

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, Please don't forget to take some CDs & DVDs for your coaches. Try and put different CDs & DVDs on and keep rotating these CDs & DVDs to keep the Sangat Focused (and prevent them from gossiping). Sometimes CDs are better than DVDs as not everyone on the coach can see the DVD and so they start gossiping. Take CDs like immortal productions, or Sant Jarnail Singh Khalsa Brindrawale's Speeches. Keep them short and keep putting different CDs on so that people don't start ignoring them! Finally, Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, please can I ask you to keep on bringing this thread to the top of the Forum all day today. This is the last day to market the rally on here so please keep on bringing this thread to the top. If you can't think of anything to say, just type, DON'T FORGET TO MAKE THESE PLACARDS TODAY! I am sure our American brothers and sisters won't mind if we did that for today only.

Benti to all Sadh Sangat, Some wind up Asians might turn up to the rally!! Please make sure you keep the rally very very PEACEFUL! If we don't the police will be down and we will just be labelled 'Militants' etc etc.. Please keep a look out, there will be some Asians trying to start trouble. Be prepared for some Asians to wind you up (like the Asians we had winding us up at Dudley). People of their kind will be at this March to wind us up. If any people do wind you up, just film them. We need Great Britain, and the rest of the World, to take note and listen to us about the human rights violations that were committed by the Indian Government against the Sikhs in 1984, and before, and after. And those human rights violations the Indian Government continues to commit today! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, LETS BE WISE ON THE DAY!!! The rally has always gone PEACEFULLY, let's keep this one PEACEFUL too ! Otherwise, we will never get to protest again! Please show total discipline on the day! Shout as loud as you can! But keep it PEACEFUL. If you REALLY want Justice for the thousands and thousands of innocent Sikh Children and Women who were raped, tortured, and Murdered under the orders of the Indian Government, the you will keep this rally PEACEFUL!!!!

Dear Sadh Sangat, You still have all day Saturday to call and text a few friends to meet at your local Gurdwara tomorrow to make a few placards for THIS Sunday's Rally. I am sure your Gurdwara will let you use their Printers and stationery for the placards! Please grab the moment and make some placards tomorrow. There are plenty of ready made placards in this thread alone which you can access and print at your Gurdwara via the internet. Alternatively, you can just print off your own.

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, There is a theory that some people have come onto this Forum to distract us from discussing the 1984 Rally being held THIS Sunday 5th June 2011 (11a.m.) at Hyde Park, LONDON. Please don't get distracted, please can we discuss only 1984 until Sunday (or at least all day Saturday, tomorrow). Please Dear Sadh Sangat Ji.

Dear Mr Dudley, I will be back to have some dialogue with you in a couple of days. I just need to talk to some Sikhs before I talk to you. I will speak to you in a couple of days time.

Well said Darknight - We should just keep coming back the facts like above. The Dudley Manmukhs and the real Dudley Sikh Sangat are so easy to identify. What a poor poor soul the woman spokesman is who you mention above. If after reaching that age she still calls Guru Ji "a book" then she must really be lacking some basic sense, or be seriously lacking in belief!!!

So what you are saying is that there is no place for Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Amrit in your new version of Sikhi? Do you believe that Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj was one of the 10 Gurus? Do you believe that the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji has the light of all 10 Gurus within it?

Sikhs wants Self Rule in their Homeland!!! Sikhs wants Self Rule, before a further 1/4 million Sikhs are Murdered by the Indian Govt, AGAIN!!! Indian Govt Protects and Promotes CHILD MURDERERS caught on FILM!!! Indian Govt has great organisation skills, when it comes to MURDERING innocent Children & Women!!! Remember - We do not want to destroy India or the Hindus. We want the Indian Govt to stop destroying the Sikhs! We want to preserve Sikhi and Sikhs - we don't want the Sikhs to be systematically wiped out by the Indian Government, which is what the indian Govt have been doing, are doing, and will do, unless the Sikhs can have their Homeland - to simply live and exist!! .25 million Sikhs have already be murdered under the orders and organisation of the Indian Government, how many more will be murdered before, the Sikhs birth place, is made their Homeland?

Rupik, you know this already, but for the benefit of our guests... as a baptised/ Amritdhari Sikh, you are entilted to ride your motor bike with a Turban, with a helmet, or with both! Nobody is going to stop you from doing any of the three! If anyone critizises you for wearing a helmet over you turban, then that's up to them! But as long as they don't force you to take your helmet off, then you are free to follow your belief if you feel safer with a helmet. One of the reasons you are allowed to wear your turban in Great Britian, even while riding your motorbike is the following:- Amrtdhari Sikhs fought for British Freedom while wearing the Dastaar, or Turban, rather than the helmet. Well over 80,000 Sikhs died in the two World Wars for British Freedom, 100,000 were injured, and many more fought without being injured. Per head of population the Sikhs got the highest Victoria Cross awards, more than any in the race or nation that fought in the two world wars! Winston Churchill is on record saying things like "we owe our freedom to the Sikhs in Turbans" he made many other speeches on the bravery and sacrifices the Sikhs made for the Freedom of the Citizens of Great Britian in the two World Wars. No doubt the British People themselves made unmeasureable scrafices, and showed unmatchable bravery for the freedom of their own Country too! But we are talking about the Turbaned Sikhs here! Please watch this video it shows the history of the Amritdhari Sikhs fighting side by side with the British in the two world wars!

Wouldn't it have been lovely to see this truth in the British Press!!! Yes I think the British Tax Payer should be very concerned with the local Dudley non practising Sikhs who can be easily recognised, as basically they will not resemble a Sikh in any way, shape, or form. Most of the non-practising Sikhs of Dudley normally have shaved heads and more likely to be mistaken for Hari Krishna worshippers, but do not have the honesty and integrity of Hari Krishna worshippers. The shaved head non-practising Sikhs generally lack belief in any religion. There are a few Dudley Temple committee members that have deliberately adopted the appearance of Sikhs to cause unfair competition regarding party halls in the Dudley area. The Dudley Sikh imitating Committee do this because it pains them to think that their Shaved head congregation, who do not practise Sikhism, may pay money to people of other races, including ordinary British Tax paying Citizens, in order to hire halls for parties. The Dudley Temple committee members, who try imitate the appearance of real Sikhs, use the religion of the Sikhs to market and advertise their Dudley party hall for the consumption of alcohol. This marketing method, and drinking alcohol, is very clearly against even the most basic of Sikh Tenets. The committee seem to take great pleasure in knowing that they are hurting the sentiments of the Sikhs, and at them same time, drawing business away from local law abiding British Tax payers, who have set up their party halls in the correct and proper manner, and who use fair marketing and advertising techniques to drawn in their customers. As mentioned before, the Sikh imitating Dudley Temple committee members have argued that, why should our congregation (mostly non-practising shaved head Sikhs) pay money over to law abiding British Tax Paying Citizens who own party halls, when they could instead, keep the money within their own "non-Sikhi practising" community. This British Tax payer, and especially the Dudley Press/Newspapers, should note that it is the shaved head congregation, and Sikh imitating Dudley Temple committee, who are working against the Dudley Tax Payer and business owners. The proper British Sikhs, who support long beards and turbans, are supporting all the genuine British Tax payers of Dudley by trying to prevent the unfair marketing being used against the British Tax payer by this shaved head congregation of people who do not practice Sikhism. The practising genuine Sikhs who protested against the activities taking place at the hall were defending the rights of the British Tax Payer. The rest of the Dudley and National Community, the Dudley and National Press, and the Dudley and National Police Force should realise that the Sikhs, who supported long beards and turbans, who protested against the activities of the hall on Saturday, where fighting for the rights of the British tax payer! We should leave the sale and promotion of alcohol to the Pubs, Nightclubs, off licences, and restaurants, as allowed by the law of this land. Gurdwares should not be taking business away for Pubs, Nightclubs, off licences, and restaurants that offer anyone a place to drink without offending anyone! The Great British Press and Media, and the Police, should be supporting their tax paying Pub, Nightclub and restaurant owners, rather than protecting and assisting mislead Gurdwara Committee members in taking customers away from the Legitimate British Tax Paying Men and Women who sell alcohol in legal, legitimate and suitable venues!!! One of the best quotes I have heard recently is, "saying you are a Sikh, when you do not practise even the basic Sikh Doctrines and Tenets, is like saying you are a footballer, when you do not even play football" - brilliant quote!

Wouldn't it have been lovely to see this truth in the British Press!!! Yes I think the British Tax Payer should be very concerned with the local Dudley non practising Sikhs who can be easily recognised, as basically they will not resemble a Sikh in any way, shape, or form. Most of the non-practising Sikhs of Dudley normally have shaved heads and more likely to be mistaken for Hari Krishna worshippers, but do not have the honesty and integrity of Hari Krishna worshippers. The shaved head non-practising Sikhs generally lack belief in any religion. There are a few Dudley Temple committee members that have deliberately adopted the appearance of Sikhs to cause unfair competition regarding party halls in the Dudley area. The Dudley Sikh imitating Committee do this because it pains them to think that their Shaved head congregation, who do not practise Sikhism, may pay money to people of other races, including ordinary British Tax paying Citizens, in order to hire halls for parties. The Dudley Temple committee members, who try imitate the appearance of real Sikhs, use the religion of the Sikhs to market and advertise their Dudley party hall for the consumption of alcohol. This marketing method, and drinking alcohol, is very clearly against even the most basic of Sikh Tenets. The committee seem to take great pleasure in knowing that they are hurting the sentiments of the Sikhs, and at them same time, drawing business away from local law abiding British Tax payers, who have set up their party halls in the correct and proper manner, and who use fair marketing and advertising techniques to drawn in their customers. As mentioned before, the Sikh imitating Dudley Temple committee members have argued that, why should our congregation (mostly non-practising shaved head Sikhs) pay money over to law abiding British Tax Paying Citizens who own party halls, when they could instead, keep the money within their own "non-Sikhi practising" community. This British Tax payer, and especially the Dudley Press/Newspapers, should note that it is the shaved head congregation, and Sikh imitating Dudley Temple committee, who are working against the Dudley Tax Payer and business owners. The proper British Sikhs, who support long beards and turbans, are supporting all the genuine British Tax payers of Dudley by trying to prevent the unfair marketing being used against the British Tax payer by this shaved head congregation of people who do not practice Sikhism. The practising genuine Sikhs who protested against the activities taking place at the hall were defending the rights of the British Tax Payer. The rest of the Dudley and National Community, the Dudley and National Press, and the Dudley and National Police Force should realise that the Sikhs, who supported long beards and turbans, who protested against the activities of the hall on Saturday, where fighting for the rights of the British tax payer! We should leave the sale and promotion of alcohol to the Pubs, Nightclubs, off licences, and restaurants, as allowed by the law of this land. Gurdwares should not be taking business away for Pubs, Nightclubs, off licences, and restaurants that offer anyone a place to drink without offending anyone! The Great British Press and Media, and the Police, should be supporting their tax paying Pub, Nightclub and restaurant owners, rather than protecting and assisting mislead Gurdwara Committee members in taking customers away from the Legitimate British Tax Paying Men and Women who sell alcohol in legal, legitimate and suitable venues!!! One of the best quotes I have heard recently is, "saying you are a Sikh, when you do not practise even the basic Sikh Doctrines and Tenets, is like saying you are a footballer, when you do not even play football" - brilliant quote!

PAL 07, I totally agree, it's easy to say negative unhelpful things, or type negative unhelpful things, even after the Satkaar Campaign have done a brilliant job of making people aware of the Guru's teachings! The Satkaar Campaign have achieved so much, and shown the rest of us the way, now it's for every Sikh to fulfil their duty in promoting Sikhi, rather than the drinking of alcohol, in Gurdwara associated buildings! Out of the hundreds of Gurdwaras in the UK there are still a handful who are promoting drinking alcohol in Gurdwara associated buildings - Hopefully these last few Gurdwares will see sense too, like the Dudley Gurdwara Committee did, and move a step closer to their Guru, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj, by banning the consumption of alcohol in their Gurdwara Associated Building! We should leave the sale and promotion of alcohol to the Pubs, Nightclubs, off licences, and restaurants, as allowed by the law of this land. Gurdwares should not be taking business away for Pubs, Nightclubs, off licences, and restaurants that offer anyone a place to drink without offending anyone! The Great British Press and Media, and the Police, should be supporting their tax paying Pub, Nightclub and restaurant owners, rather than protecting and assisting mislead Gurdwara Committee members in taking customers away from the Legitimate British Tax Paying Men and Women who sell alcohol in legal, legitimate and suitable venues!!!

One of the best quotes I have heard recently is, "saying you are a Sikh, when you do not practise even the basic Sikh Doctrines and Tenets, is like saying you are a footballer, when you do not even play football" - brilliant quote!