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:s :)This Samagam is dedicated to all the Shaheeds of the Panth, and the Sikhs that have given Kurbani for the Chardi kala of the Panth. We will also use this opportunity to pray for the chardi kala of all Sikhs still in jails in the clutches of the tyrannical Brahmin Government. Saturday the 1st of March 2008 12pm to 6pm there will be Constant Japji Sahib From 6pm to 7pm will be Rehras and Simran From 7pm to 12am there will be Kirtan by Mahan Kirtanis from all over. Venue: Gurdwara Singh Sabha, Seven Kings, 720-730 High Road, IG3 8SX , Ilford Essex This Samagam has been organized by East London Youth for the whole panth. United we stand, divided we fall. If you want to do any type of seva or kirtan phone Harminder Singh on: 07940657912

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It is well known that only people that believe in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee as the living Guru are Sikhs. Namdharis who are a cult which openly call Guru Ji a book and believe in a human Guru are allowed to have stalls in the Handsworth park mela. On one hand they diss the Sikh Guru and on the other hand they make money out of us. Pritams sweet centre (Namdahri Business) probably make more money on that one day then they do all year round from the sangat. But these are the same people that tell us our father is not our father, so indirectly calling us bastards. Where is our Honour? The Nazi regime of India has attacked our temples, people, religion and identity for years. They have killed and imprisoned thousands of innocent Sikh civilians. They oppress our people and deny us our human rights, yet in these melas we openly allow the sale of India flags and India T-shirts. Where is out honour? At smethwick mela some clowns dressed up as the Punjab police which hurt Sikh sentiments; because of the crimes commited on the Sikh Nation by the Punjab police in the 1980's to 1990's (Fake police encounters, torture, false confessions, rape and murder) Last year at both smethick and handsworth melas innocent bystanders were attacked and injured with serious injuries. At smethick 8 youth from a local Muslim gang attacked women, elderly and children. Did the Sikh council provide support or compensation? At handsworth young bystanders were injured in the massive sword fight; were them victims given any support? At handsworth mela last year bystanders who were only defending themselves against the rampage that occurred were arrested and hit with police batons; was there any compensation to the victims of police brutality? At handsworth mela, the gang called Aston panthers come in with their dogs and intimidate and humiliate the sangat. They make sexual advances to our sisters and mothers infront of their male-counter parts and make a mockery of the Singhs. Why aren’t tickets sold to allow entrance into the mela? A year on and no apologies or statements have been made by the Sikh Council of Gurdwaras in Birmingham. We spend 80 thousand pound and what do we have to show apart from disrespect and humiliation. If you want to have a mela, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee should not be present and a more responsible approach is needed. Tickets for entrance should be sold in Gurdwaras etc We ask all the Sikh Sangat to boycott the Mela until the Sikh Council have agreed not to take Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji to the Park. All organisations really need to think twice before they partake in any Seva; becuase is it really seva that they are doing if disrespect is the outcome?

the saroop is not that damaged im sure it cud have been restored ?

S.I.K.H. Spiritual Inquiry with Khanda & Heart TIME FOR CHANGE Handsworth Mela – dishonour, behzti – is this the state of Sikhi??? “Jin Bhe adab na baani dhara, jano so sikh nehi hamara” “He who has no fear or respect of Gurbani, know that he is not my Sikh.” (Extract from Sikh Rehatnama) BEADBI (intentional and unintentional disrespect) of Maharaaj Guru Granth Sahib jee is something that as Sikhs we cannot, and will not tolerate. Currently there is general unrest in the Sikh youth as more importance has been placed on this issue from Sikhs worldwide over recent years. We don’t take Guru Maharaaj into halls, hotels, pubs and clubs because of our love and respect for Guru ji, but then why do we take maharaaj into a park; where we have no control over the code of conduct in the parks boundaries. Where ever Guru Ji is present on thakt the atmosphere of the boundaries should be the same as a Gurdwara. The same behaviour and activities should be going on as a Gurdwara. Does this happen in the Handsworth Mela? Even maharaaj Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s horse would not enter a field where tobacco was planted. Yet we annually take saroop’s of Maharaaj Guru Granth Sahib Ji in to an environment where tobacco stubs litter the ground and where people enter under the intoxication of various substances, be it unintentionally, this is something that must be evaluated and changed as there is continued discontent in the Sikh youth. Do you think it is acceptable to take Maharaaj into areas with rave type atmospheres, loud and noisy music, rides, with inappropriate social interaction, with a non-existent dress code, where people smoke and drink? The problem lies not with the mela in principle but whether or not we are showing true respect for Guru jee. This isn’t even taking into account the recent bad publicity we have received from last years detrimental shenanigans with the “Sikh on Sikh” violence. Just type “vaisakhi mela” and “BBC” into www.youtube.com and see the negative social profiling of Sikhs in the media coverage as well as the camera phone videos of bhangra and Punjabi gang/thug/yob culture. Then think and decide for yourself… Are these really Sikh values? Are we moving forwards? If so towards what? Why are we continually causing confusion between religion and culture? What is the point of a darbar in Boundaries were corrupt activities are taking place. This is total disrespect to Guru Ji and it is time for the sangat to wake up. “If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything” “Do nothing then nothing changes” “Prevention is better then cures” With older generations of the Sikh community currently questioning the purpose and actual parchar of a mela, we are merely suggesting careful planning so as the youth and older community members can work together to try to avoid the disrespect and BEADBI that is prevalent in the “Vaisakhi” mela as it is. Please sign up on the petition via the website below to express your concerns towards organizers. Feel free to make comments in an appropriate and civilized manner. Many Thanks… http://handsworthmela.blogspot.com/ http://www.petitiononline.com/sikhmela/petition.html

Interview with Sikh Unit on the 12th December 2007; Conducted by Harpreet Kaur. Why did you release Vol 2 and 3 before vol 1? Well Vol 1 was just a mess about; we didn’t even have intentions of taking the Sikh Unit thing anywhere. It was just to dish out to a few friends here and there. We done Vol 2 and dished that out to a few friends here and there. Some how it reached the net; so then we made vol 3 because of the positive feedback. Vol 1 has not got too much Sikhi issues, its more personal stuff huna. But we keep getting emails, we ain’t got part 1 etc’ so we decided just to make it available on the net. What you been up to lately? We been working on vol 4 which is nearly done, we bought half a studio, but we should have a full studio by the time we make vol 5 (which is going to be the last one). After vol 5 we are going to produce and help yunger artists on our Singhrow Label. Vol 4 is a real hardcore underground hip hop type mixtape; a lot of people aren’t gonna like it, because it is going to be grimey. I mean it’s called “No more MR NICE GUY”. So all the papus going to be dissing it. Any words for the youth? UNITY/ LOVE/ COMPASSION/ KINDNESS No MEAT/ No DRUGS/ READ BANI/ GO SIMRAN SESSIONS/ DO SEVA / Help in kids camps/ do parchaar/ go gym/ resist attacks on the panth/ look into human rights abuses in India/ Sikh marry a Sikh man don’t sell out standard. Last but not least keep repping it. Ohh yeah stay tuned into harpreet kaurs blog; she letting all the papus know the deal. www.frontlinepunjabiyouth.blogspot.com To download the albums go to http://sikhkhalistan.com/ (audio section)

i just got a forwarded email about sikh unit 1 being added on http://sikhkhalistan.com/ (audio section) they said they added it now becuase it was more of a personal album, it wud not have made an impact on the youth like 2 did. but due to the constant requests it has been uploaded. also four is on the way soon

so keeping in touch with family and friends is anti gurmat lol informing sangat about events and panthic stuff is anti gurmat. sending gursikhi things to poeple over msn and discussing ideas over msn which is cheaper and healther than phones is anti gurmat yeah. geeza have a bath wid cold water and wake up huna

u lot got too much time on ur hands , get a hobbie or do more bani. all this praise tingz just going to swell ego. allow all this penji penji stuff

Are you only taking a survey on this site and how many votes are needed to pass? welll i dont think it shouls be named sikhi or sikh etc we got sikh times they do our bhesti we dont need a site doing it either

Not always, my friend. If people go in knowing that it is a "religious site", I don't think you will attract those kind of people. I am not worried about flirting at all. I trust our people and seeing someone's picture would be just like seeing them in real life and if you go to places like gurdwara and see other sikh girls and boys, you don't go in with the mindset to "hit" on them, right? Besides, flirting online is pointless and thank god for the block feature! yeah i guess ur right man, i mean every one seems to have facebook, myspace etc. i mean there is sikh groups on there. but what can sikhispace offer that others cant. cos if u name it sikhi sapce and people put corrupt tarty images. start flirting, do we have the right to call it sikhi space. u dont want to do the besti of the name sikhi, we got too much besti happeing already do we need another one.

ohh yeah but in the profile, people shouls not be allowed to put their pics up, cos thats dangerous and can lead to flirting etc

yeah its good for parchaar and networking

http://www.panthic.org/news/126/ARTICLE/3725/2007-12-05.html

thats a taotal different story lol i got my story from sant jarnail singh jis tapes. they are to different stroys with two different meanins, lol too much bhang going around in the panth lol they both are real stories, no need to make a post and call someones elses story fake

Guru Gobind Singh Sahib, the true King was staying in Anandpur Sahib. One day Guru Ji, told the Sevadaars to cook a lot of rice. When the rice was cooked they were piled in a heap, then Guru Ji asked the Singhs to bring some deer. The deer were brought and allowed to eat the rice from the pile. All the deer ate some rice each and went away. The Singhs asked Maharaj “what does this mean”? Maharaj told them he will explain it tomorrow. The next day Maharaj asked that a few dogs be brought to the same pile of rice. When the dogs were brought to the pile the first one took a mouthful and the dogs started fighting, the pile of rice was ruined (they were all over the place drowned in blood) and the dogs left injured and hungry. Maharaj was laughing at this scene. Daya Singh asked: “Maharaj, what is this? Yesterday you fed rice to the deer and today to the dogs, what does this mean? Maharaj said: “Singhs I have given you instructions for the times to come. If you act like the deer in a united manner, you will find satisfaction and success, but if you fight like the dogs did, you will get bloodied and beat up and will not get anything. Brotherz in arms stand arm to arm, holding firearms, then when its time they pull dem out and discharge. lol nah we all need unity big time man!

got this from a blog For most people their so called jatha or bunch of friends comes before the Panth. What im trying to say is that no matter how panthic the cause, if the your jatha or group of friends isn't up for it, you just tend to ignore it too. We have to live our life for Guru Ji, and not be a mere follower of others. If we really loved Guru Ji we would understand that all Sikhs are Sons and daughetrs of Guru Ji. We might have different views etc, but we should not fight each other over these because we belong to the same family. We should sort things out diplomatically where possible. Most of the time, our different views are due to lack of knowledge/education, misunderstandings and minsconceptions. There is no need to fight each other over the mentioned reasons because the person is not doing bad intentionally. However if people are distorting Sikhi and disrespecting Guru Ji intentionally, we do have to take a stand. We need to put our differences aside and learn to live with each other and draw buffer zones where appropriate. For example if you don't believe in Raag mala, dont rip it out of Gutkas etc , because other people regard Raag mala as Gurbani, and it will cause fights if you do rip it out. We need to stand together to defend the Panth against the real enemies, who are out to destroy us. We are too busy hating each other, while the people that really hate us are destroying us. Stop and think, whats bigger your Jatha or the Panth?

alot of sikhs hate gill, but there has never been a proper record or document showing what exactly he has done. i guess most of the people hate him due to rumours, i think we need to get facts or make documented cases or files against people who commit crime against innocent people. i mean every where i go i hear gill this gill that, im sure if he was that bad he wouldnt be a hockey manager , i mean all the sikh nowdays in india love him, i just think its poeple out of india trying to stir trouble, unless people can show me facts or even documented allegations, all i seem to be hearing is gill is bad , thats the furtherest anyone can answer me, so if he was that bad im sure there would be alot to say if not give the man a break and let him coach our national team

www.frontlinepunjabiyouth.blogspot.com pass the link on, i think this is from the same people who do frontline magazine. i thought it was good safe

i have noticed that alot of soho roadies r anti freedom, as in anti khalistani, i want to ask sohoa roadie who posted this, how comes u have a different veiw from ur jatha?

Da Struggle continues, real sikhs will not stop until we achieve freedom, who ever is anti freedon is just a coward and i want to say if people have no love for the safety of our nation and progress of our religion , r they really a Sikh , do we have any right to call them a Sikh? ehhhm makes u think init?

he kept it real and bust that steel, wjkk wjkf

The party hall shouldnt be there in the first place let alone extension, masands , sell outs , skanks , disrespectful people. only if the khalsa fuaj had honour and principlas as b4 we wouldnt let this happens, but we r all weak sheep now, if we wasnt we do something to stop this.

must b true, remeber that it was the sikhs who gave their lives and fought against muslim invaders who kiddnapped hndu women, it ws there decendents who raped and killed our sisters and brothers. its a messed up world no loyality,