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  1. Mr Garcha is definitely a troll because no one could be this delusional. Can't help but laugh every time I read his posts here. Really entertaining stuff.
  2. The poster of that message is assuming this based on our circumstances today. But if you ask a Sikh from year 1900 what the situation of the Sikhs will be by year 2000 he would never have imagined the Akali movement, Nankana Sahib massacre, 1947 partition, Punjabi Suba movement, 1984 Ghallukara and the Kharku movment that followed. By 2100 we can't imagine what will happen. For all we know there might be Khalsa Raaj established through out the world.
  3. In India Sikhs are no different https://m.timesofindia.com/city/dehradun/prayer-ground-flooded-sikhs-offer-gurdwara-to-muslims-for-eid-namaaz/amp_articleshow/60341723.cms
  4. Problem with Muslim women is that they never convert out of their faith for love. It is more likely that a Muslim woman will convert her husband to her faith or at the very least raise her children within the Islamic faith. That's how the mongols who expanded into the Islamic world nearly all converted to Islam within a generation of two. While it is a very good quality for any community to have such women in their ranks who are so loyal to their religion even if they marry out but to the guy that she marries it is spiritual suicide for this very reason. That's probably why Sikh men avoided marrying Muslim women. A Nakai Sardar who was the head of the Nakai Misal is said to have converted to Islam because his wife was a Muslim. His descendents are now very rich influential people in Pakistan.
  5. That's why it's hard to believe propaganda by missionaries based modern Khalistanis who always try to show Islam in good light. In fact anytime Muslims do something wrong to Sikhs they always try to twist the story by making it into an RSS or Hindu conspiracy like they do with everything else. Harpreet Singh Makhu and Udoke are chief examples of such Khalistanis. Taksali based Khalistanis are much much more reliable. They don't suck up to Muslims and neither do they have any Islamophilia in them. When you read old articles from the 80s by Khalistanis there was no unnecessary praising of Islam as we see today. Neither did Sant ji ever praise Islam or act Muslim like Udoke and his daughter who miss no chance to show off their Urdu speaking skills.
  6. Sikhi doesn't borrow anything from anyone. What Sikh scriptures does do is set the record straight as to who or what these Devtas, Devis, Demons, prophets are in the grand scheme of things within the creation of Vahiguru. What are their strengths and weaknesses. Guru Granth Sahib ji mentions about these deities. If we want to reference about them then obviously we will reference from Dasam Bani to see who and what they are. We will not reference from the works of the Hindus and Muslims.
  7. Yes according to Hinduism what you are saying is correct. But according to Bani, Vahiguru had created Durga to destroy the Demons(ਤੈ ਹੀ ਦੁਰਗਾ ਸਾਜਿ ਕੈ ਦੈਤਾ ਦਾ ਨਾਸੁ ਕਰਾਇਆ।।)
  8. As always great post by proactive ji. True the Singh's since the time of Sant ji were the truest Sikh heroes since they served no one as their master. It is rare to find a Sikh like that between 1849 to 1984. I think after the fall of the Kuka movement the Sikhs stopped fighting to regain the Sikh raaj and instead faught for India and blurred ideas with that of other Indian nationalists. A few Sikhs do come to mind though who can be genuinely regarded as Sikh heroes. -Baba Ram Singh of the Kuka movement. He wanted to regain the Sikh state. His ideas were years ahead of other freedoms fighters like boycotting British made goods and services. Later the British turned his movement into a Gurudom. The kukas also lost their Khalsa spirit after that. -Kartar Singh Jhabbar. He liberated so many Gurdwaras from the Udasin Mahants who regarded themselves as Hindus. The Hindu Indian nationalists even wanted the Sikhs to postpone their Gurdwara liberation movement and just focus on India but it seems deep down Kartar Singh understood that after the British are gone these Hindus won't give us anything. Even though I'm a vegetarian but the way he conducted the Jhatka conference I can't help but praise his Anakh when the Muslims tried to force Halal on the Sikhs. -Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh ji. He fought against the British because of which he was imprisoned for years. During his lifetime western ideas like Marxism began to polute the minds of Sikhs like Bhagat Singh. He had written about these atheists in his books. He also tried to convince the Maharaja of Patiala to use his power and influence to create a Sikh state after the British departure but unfortunately the ruler if Patiala was too close to the Congress to listen. These are men who worked hard only for Sikh interests.
  9. You probably didn't post this picture with good intentions. Problem is when you see these things through the lense of Hindu depictions and scriptures. Maharaj has given us our own scripture to reference from which gives her physical description. To begin with she doesn't look anything like this. She has her hair tied on the top of her head in a ਜੂੜਾ and to cover this joora she probably also wore a dastar as I have been told by Nihangs. She dresses as a warrior full of Shastars.
  10. I used to like reading your posts but I don't know when and how you became so influenced by atheistic missionaries but like most missionaries your post is far from factual on this subject. Unlike the west which is dustless and with dry air, India is a very dusty place, the air is also very humid which is why dust builds up. And you don't even know that it is Kachi Lassi not pure milk. Milk is not just food. Traditionally milk has had multiple uses in India. For example, before Shampoos, people in the Pinds used to clean their hair using yogurt(ਦਹੀਂ). Many elderly people in the pinds still use Dahi instead of Shampoo. Maybe to a westerner like you these things seems too rustic because it doesn't involve any chemicals. Kachi Lassi is a much better alternative for seva at Sri Darbar Sahib. If we listen to the heretic missionaries and started to use these modern chemical based cleaning products, it would drain into the sarovar killing the fish, it would be harmful to the pilgrims doing Ishnan, maybe even causing cancer in the long term. Problem is many of our traditions were passed from generation to generation without explanation as to the reasons behind these traditions. This has resulted in a lot of confusion among western influenced Sikhs like you.
  11. Idk I think Mr Garcha is just trolling people. Otherwise how can a person have such obviously flawed views is beyond me.
  12. The new generation of Muslims seems to be the most aggressive when trying to convert people. The older generation did not try to convert you or as I have heard from my elders who remember pre partition Punjab the Muslims back then did not act like a salesman for Islam. But today most Muslims all try to slyly sell you Islam.
  13. Indian Muslims alone are nothing. They need help coming from their co religionists from the neighboring countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh. It's only a few more years left but I think that there will be a lot of unspeakable violence between Hindus and Muslims of the subcontinent.
  14. In 1857 when Sikhs helped the British due to wanting to take revenge against the sepoys they showed so much brute strength against the sepoys and their armed Bhaiya supporters that Lakhs were killed. Delhi was destroyed. During partition it was no holds barred contest. All law and order had broken down. Hindus could not have stopped the Muslim hordes had Sikhs under Master Tara Singh not taken a stand.
  15. Hindus since the British took over have become assertive especially since 1947. Muslims know that they cannot match the Hindus intellectually nor financially. All the advantages are with the Hindus. The only advantage the Muslims have over Hindus is brute strength. During the late 1800s seeing the declining status of Indian Muslims A Muslim leader and intellectual named Sir Syad Ahmad Khan had even written that there should be a no holds barred contest between Hindus and Muslims to decide who gets what. He estimated that if the British were not there the Muslims led by Afghans would massacre Hindus from Afghanistan to Bangal. 1947 was going to the time the Muslims were going to put this in action and teach the Hindus a lesson they would never forget once and for all but the Sikhs were on the side of Hindus and ended up showing even more brute strength than the Muslims. We are again living in a similar era. Divisions and hatred between Hindus and Muslims are growing day by day. What ever happens, Sikhs will probably not save Hindus this time due to Hindu treatment of the Sikhs since 1947.
  16. I've also noticed Iranians are better than the rest. Maybe because they are Shia. It is usually always the Sunnis who try to subtly convert you in a sneaky way sort of like a life insurance agent trying to sell you some insurance. Same thing with these Ahmadi Muslims they are no different to the Sunni Pakistanis, same mentality same tactics to convert you.
  17. This isn't the first time Sikhs have done more than their share. The thing is, no matter how much the Sikhs do there is zero appreciation from other Indians whether it is Hindus, Muslims or Christians. ਇਹਨਾਂ ਲਈ ਜਿਨਾਂ ਮਰਜੀ ਕਰਲੋ, ਪਰ ਪੈਣੀਆਂ ਜੁੱਤੀਆਂ ਹੀ ਨੇ ਸਾਨੂੰ। Sirsa is a moorakh. He acts as though it is our Farz/duty to give to the government of India and give food to others. Sikhs are under no obligation to do all this. Langar has always been for devotees at the Gurdwara. The modern Langar movement as we know it today was started a 100 years ago by Baba Nidhan Singh Hazur Sahib Wale. But even he did it for Sikh Yatris going to and from Hazur Sahib. Today's SJW Sikhs have taken Langar out of it's original context.
  18. Have you done an analysis of the Puranas vs Dasam Granth? There are so many differences. Read the Puranas and the Dasam Granth side by side and see for yourself. Guru ji tells the story of the Avatars without the corruption that added up over the Yugs. Just compare Rama Avtar Bani which contains so many differences from Ramayana.
  19. I know its a popular story especially in today's SJW dominated world but just how reliable is that story of Guru Hargobind sahib ji building a masjid when 10th master has written ਸਕਲ ਜਗਤ ਮੋ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਗਾਜੇ।। ਜਗੈ ਧਰਮ ਹਿੰਦੁਕ ਤੁਰਕਨ ਦੁੰਦ ਭਾਜੇ।। (Through out the world the Khalsa Panth will be prominent. Within this world the Dharm of the Hindus and Turks will take flight.) ਦਹੂੰ ਪੰਥ ਮੈਂ ਕਪਟ ਵਿੱਦਯਾ ਚਲਾਨੀ।। ਬਹੁੜ ਤੀਸਰ ਪੰਥ ਕੀਜੈ ਪਰਧਾਨੀ।। (The vidhya of both the Panths(of Hindus and Muslims) is corrupted. Elevate the teesr Panth(over the other two Panths).) ਮੜੀ ਗੋਰ ਦੇਵਲ ਮਸੀਤਾਂ ਗਿਰਾਯੰ।। ਤੁਹੀ ਏਕ ਅਕਾਲ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪਾਯੰ।। (Demolish the graves, mandhirs and mosques. Make me meditate on the One Akal, Har Har.) ਮਿਟਹਿ ਬੇਦ ਸਲਾਵਤ ਅਠਾਰਹਿ ਪੁਰਾਨਾ।। ਮਿਟੈ ਬਾਂਗ ਸਲਾਵਤ ਸੁਨੰਤ ਕੁਰਾਨਾ।। (Eradicate the Vedas and eighteen Puranas. Eradicate the Azaan(ਬਾਂਗ), Namaaz, circumcision(ਸੁਨੰਤ) and Quran.)
  20. It is: ਜਗੈ ਧਰਮ ਹਿੰਦੁਕ , ਤੁਰਕਨ ਦੁੰਦ ਭਾਜੇ।। which means within this world (ਜਗੈ ) the Dharm of the Hindus and Turks will take flight. ਜਗੈ means ਜਗ ਵਿਚ not awake what dharm of the Hindus will remain if their Mandirs, Vedas and 18 puranas are no more and when their whole religion is being called corrupt.
  21. You mean this one: ਸਕਲ ਜਗਤ ਮੋ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਗਾਜੇ।।ਜਗੈ ਧਰਮ ਹਿੰਦੁਕ ਤੁਰਕ ਦੁੰਦ ਭਾਜੇ।। (Through out the world the Khalsa Panth will be prominent. Within this world the Dharm of the Hindus and Turks will take flight.) Hindus can believe what they want. If they mistranslate Bani to suit their agenda that doesn't mean we need to react by discarding Bani. If we started discarding Bani because of them then we would have nothing left.
  22. From Uggardanti: ਸਕਲ ਜਗਤ ਮੋ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਗਾਜੇ।। ਜਗੈ ਧਰਮ ਹਿੰਦੁਕ ਤੁਰਕ ਦੁੰਦ ਭਾਜੇ।। (Through out the world the Khalsa Panth will be prominent. Within this world the Dharm of the Hindus and Turks will take flight.) ਦਹੂੰ ਪੰਥ ਮੈਂ ਕਪਟ ਵਿੱਦਯਾ ਚਲਾਨੀ।। ਬਹੁੜ ਤੀਸਰ ਪੰਥ ਕੀਜੈ ਪਰਧਾਨੀ।। (The vidhya of both the Panths(of Hindus and Muslims) is corrupted. Elevate the teesr Panth(over the other two Panths).) ਮੜੀ ਗੋਰ ਦੇਵਲ ਮਸੀਤਾਂ ਗਿਰਾਯੰ।। ਤੁਹੀ ਏਕ ਅਕਾਲ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪਾਯੰ।। (Demolish the graves, mandhirs and mosques. Make me meditate on the One Akal, Har Har.) ਮਿਟਹਿ ਬੇਦ ਸਲਾਵਤ ਅਠਾਰਹਿ ਪੁਰਾਨਾ।। ਮਿਟੈ ਬਾਂਗ ਸਲਾਵਤ ਸੁਨੰਤ ਕੁਰਾਨਾ।। (Eradicate the Vedas and eighteen Puranas. Eradicate the Azaan(ਬਾਂਗ), Namaaz, circumcision(ਸੁਨੰਤ) and Quran.)
  23. What a load of crap. Why don't these SJWs stop contaminating our Dharm with western notions like the Marxism and feminism. They are trying to make these changes to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, who will actually read this? This is why Punjabi speaking Sikhs should never rely on English translations of Bani. Always read the Punjabi translation.
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