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Amritvela starts at 2 am, or 3 am depending on what time the sun rises. Cuz amritvela is supposed to start 3 hours before sunrise. So we are supposed to do simran until the sun rises and at sun rise we r supppsed to the 5 bania. So yeah, it makes sense to do nitnem at 7 am after all night program. But some ppl like me are tok sleepy. Other ppl r smat, they will leave the program a few hours early so they can finish nitnem. Gurmat Bibek youtube channel has a video on this called why rainsabai or something similar

Watch videos by Nanak Naam on youtube. Learn why we do simran, its to realize who we really are. We are not the body nor the senses and neither our thoughts? So who are we really? When our body dies, do we die? If not, then what are we? Congratulations, you are very close to finding out. Also read gurbani and take a hukamnama so Guru Sahib can guide you on the spiritual path and it wont be so scary.

Bhai Jugraj Singh discusses how he got into sikhi and his avastha.

Haha! The best quote ever, needs to be framed in every household

Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji's saloks. The bani is usually termed Salok Mahalla 9. Its very vairaagmai. But I think we are living in this world, so we should be detached but also enjoy it alittle. Like a game. For that, one needs chardi kala and see how this game is being played, and to laugh at it and enjoy it, while our mind remains immersed in Akal and is continuously amazed and amused at his leela. For that dasam bani helps.

Yes this forum really interferes with time management. That video really sounds interesting, i would love to listen to it. If u could share the link instead of embedding, maybe it will work on pm? I would really appreciate it. Thanks

Thank you for posting that link. I was too lazy to ? Its nice to have u back.

Obscure? It listed the countries to be conquered. And that islam will be the enemy...how much more specific do u want it? However there is no mention of America or western Europe

If you want to start on the sikh pathway, i would recommend listening to pyare jio by bhai veer singh or gurmukh sikhia by bhai vir singh on youtube. I cant explain as well as he but he Basically explains that imagine u were a rock, could u imagine being a plant? Having sensation, feeling wind and the sun. If you were a plant, could u imagine being an animal? Having movement, exploring the world, seeing, hearing, feeling? Then imagine being more alive, having more senses, being able to think, create, manipulate, make sense of things As A Human. Now imagine is there something farther than human? Yes there is. Our innate desire to experience bliss, ecstacy, connected with all,which can happen as being prt of God. So to do this, do simran. Meditate. How? Say waheguru. Think, does he exist, say with conviction Waheguru Hai (he exists). Think wat sort of being is he. Say Waheguru Sukhdata Hai (he is the giver of peace, happiness, he is joy) Think then where is he? Say waheguru saare paase. He is all around, everywhere, within me. Say this with the biggest smile,and imagine peace pervading u, joy in ur heart, happiness all around. If u can actually feel this joy and peace. Then u felt god, u called god to u, and ur meditation was successful. If not keep trying. Listen to bhai vir singh. If u get this peace, ur job is to stay that happy n relaxed the whole day. No matter wat happens. How to do that. Try to remember waheguru, who is peace and joy at all times. Keep track, how many times a day, u re remember. Once u remember waheguru, think of it as a blessing. As waheguru thinking of you! The creator of galaxies, planets, 1.6 billion ppl, thinking of u. Be filled with gratitude and say waheguru tera shukar hai (im grateful, thank you) of helping me remember u. Of blessing me with ur name. Of filling me with peace. Then say waheguru in thanks, then say waheguru to thank for being able to say waheguru in thanks. Then say waheguru again cuz he blessed u to say his name. Only those who he blesses, who HE thinks about, remember him. So say waheguru continuously in thanks. Each time u say it, u should be filled with peace and happiness. Thats how u bring sikhi into every second of ur life. Its hard in the beginning, as u will forget abt waheguru, but keep trying. Also this is all mental. So u should bedoing this in a train, at work during break. Just smiling and thinking waheguru as peace pervades. Being filled with gratitude as thinking waheguru. So practice this mental simran. Of saying waheguru only with ur mind. Also i would add 1 hour of simran outloud, in the morning. Or 30 min in the morning, 30 min at bedtime 1 hour of sehaj paath, if u donthave pothis, sainchis, just go to srigranth.org or google sri granth. If not 1 hour, at least 15 min. If u have more time, i would recommend listening to 1 hour of katha, discourse. Start with bhai vir singh, then bhai sahib singh canada wale, then basicsof sikhi, then bhai sukha singh, then sant singh ji maskeen. Theres loads of kathavachiks, try them all. See which ones elevate ur thinking, bring u peace and consolation. If no time, do this on weekends. Also try to learn keertan, if not possible. Just sing kirtan, without any harmonium. It should be with emotion, so choose shabads that describe ur mental state. Ur position and ur problems. If u cant think of anything, check out rainsbai videos on youtube, also sarab rog ka aukhad naam. Note shabds that u can relate to, and sing those from the heart

Its certainly natural to have a crush, but is it ok? Well its natural to feel anger and want to punch someone, when they humiliate u, but is it ok? Its natural to want to get a high paying job in the wine industry, but is it ok? Wat all of these things have in common is that they are of the panj chor, the five thieves: lust, anger, and greed. These are natural, they are our default mode. Everybody including animals are ruled by these desires/instincts. Criminals go too far, they either use force or go against the law to fulfill these desires But most ppl are ruled by these desires, and will do anything to follow them. Guruji imagined a different, better human being and called him Sikh. Theres nothing wrong with wat you are doing, but nothing good either. You are just following the most basic, simple level of programming of your mind. If you want to achieve higher things in life and sikhi, you have to think higher, better, follow the upgraded level mindset. Which means think above the 5 chor. Remember guruji says you will be judged on your actions, words, and thoughts. ਮਨ ਬਚ ਕਰਮ. And sikhs should try to have the most exemplary. Also, guruji said to think of any girl who is not related to you as your mother, sister, or daughter depending on age. A crush basically means you like that person. Ask yourself why. Most common reason is you admire them or you think theyredifferent or better. Ask yourself why. Because they have good qualities that i like. Either beauty, intelligence, style, kindness...etc Watever that reason is that you like them for, train your mind to desire that quality instead. If its beauty, that person did not create it. Try to admire beauty everywhere, and be in awe of the creator of that beauty. Try to become beautiful, intelligent, confindent yourself. At this age, you should be trying to improve yourself. Watever you like in someone else, try to adapt it yourself. Your goal should be to make yourself the best at everything, so that other people have crushes on you. Not that u go around having crushes on other ppl, wasting the best time ਜਵਾਨੀ of your life. Dont think badly of yourself for having a crush. Its natural, but arise above it. And make yourself have the good qualities ( best looks, best style, most intelligent, great conversationalist, most religious, most calm, kind) that you cant find anyone good enough to have a crush on.? be the best sikh, best son of Guru Gobind Singh ji.

This is a.common.stage. ive been.through it too. It is the complete opposite of chardi kala, and complete.opposite of optimism. I usually get into this stagnant, bored, hopeless.mindset, when I havent had contact with inspiring sangat. So first do ardaas, like a prayer, from ir heart, just lay ur problems in front of.gurusahib and.ask for help. Then go into nature, sun ( make sure ur vitamins r good, esp vitamin D and B), try to read inspirational books like oprahs autobiography, or unlikely martyr, or sikh books, many have been translated into english. I would reccomend autobiography of bhai randhir singh, if u can read panjabi then chamatkaar by bhai vir singh. Also google raghbir singh bir, his bandginama in english is good. If u cant make urself do that, go to a rainsabai samagam. Believe me, it will help. Also try to attend a camp, its summer time there should be loads Or try to volunteer, when we help ppl out, we get happiness. That will make u more likely to be grateful and thank God. Try to learn a new skill, kirtan, a new saaj, piano, guitar, dilruba. Basically u have to force urself and try to engage do something. When im feeling particularly numb and cant be bothered to do anything, i leave sukhmani sahib or Sarab rog ka aukhad naam shabads by Rog Nivaran on repeat playback to play outloud 24/7 in my room esp when im sleeping. Within a few days, positivity and hope become prevalent. Also try reading inspiring stuff online, i used to read why did u choose sikhi or sikh convert stories.

That is a very good desire...keep it up. I have not had darshans of GuruSahib. But i did hear of a Gursikh bibi, everyday during sukhasan see would ask to be blessed with the darshan of one of the gurus, i forgot which. She kept asking...and after 2 years she got darshan. I think theres 2 ways to meet guruji. Through love and through tap/ penance/hardwork. If it is thru love, u try to increase ur love qnd closeness to the guru. You listen to their sakhis, do kirtan, as much simran and seva because you like want to know more about ur guru, see wat he said, and u r happy thinking of him. Basically its wat.the above poster said, u want to do something for ur guru. But its hard to have that love so some ppl do it the hard way. They do tap, i will do simran or paath until Guruji gives me darshan. So they rely on stubborness. And in both ways, guruji tests u to see if ur worthy. He will test the love of the other and stubborness of the other. So because u r doing it through tap, u will tested on stubborness. You will have to keep being stubborn and asking for darshan and not give up. Also make sure you are not affecting ur health by not sleeping enough. This human body is precious. You can do seva of the panth of humanity of ur parents with it.

Here's an ahmadiya prophecy: world war 3 will start in Shyam thats syria. It will be like the cold war with russia and US vying for control. Finally russia will win. Russians will become muslim,and the 73rd sect of islam will save the day, which is ahmadiya ofc

Hello, I really liked ur post and agree with most of what you say. While science has helped us alot, it has not been able to answer or help ppl with internal issues. And society seems to have more problems than before. In terms of becoming a sikh, i think you should take it slowly, first learn more about it and build a relationship with the guru. In our Gurudwara resides our 11th and eternal Guru: Guru Granth Sahib Ji. So when visiting ur goal should be to pay homage to the Guru, listen to his words, and communicate with him. I would suggest you go visit when there is not a big function/ceremony going on. Weddings usually happen on a saturday, main services on Sunday. So i would suggest, that you visit on Sunday night around 6/7 pm or on the weekdays. I personally love going on weeknights as the gurudwara is usually empty and i feel more peace then. Im sure you are aware of the etiquette of visiting a gurudwara such as covering head with a bandana, taking off shoes before entering, washing hands, sitting on the floor, partaking of a free meal etc Also check out basics of sikhi on youtube as well as nanak Naam. Also check out school of life, its a UK based channel that tries to help athiests with internal issues, i like some of their content, like why suicide rates are higher n other videos. Also check out Srigranth.org or i think it might be sri granth .com....just google srigranth, there you can connect with our guru and wat he says.

Try to analyze and smajaa ur mind. Like why do you like her mind? Is it because shes pretty? Well beauty fades and we all become old and ugly. So beauty is just a trap and mind u should be ashamed to have fallen for such a simple trick of maya. As that beauty is really just skin, bones, hair, blood, and guts arranged in a certain way to trick us. And if we really must admire beauty, why not admire the one who designed the beautiful mountains, streams, rivers, which have no parallel. The beautiful One from which all creation comes from, Waheguru Is it because of her good qualities? Then love the qualities not the person they adorn. Try to adopt those good qualities yourself. Because God is the source, he is all Goodness, so all good qualities flow from him. So imagine how beautiful, how Good waheguru is! The one who created all the goodness in the world.only he is worthy of falling in love. As that love will purify us and make us as Great, Good, and beautiful as waheguru is. Is it because she is amritdhari? In that case thank the guru who accepted all of us mere humans and made us singhs and kaurs. He trusted us to be the best khalsa, to not be like other mere humans, engrossed in worldly things. Instead compete with the girl for the gurus affection. If she wears a dastaar, you wear a dumalla. Is she does nitnem, u do nitnem plus simran. If she wakes up at 4am, u wake up at 3am. You know ur mind is engrossed in thinking of her, use that to make urself a better sikh. Start working out, do more paath and simran. Do ardaas to guruji to make you a true sikh, who gets over this crush.

Also will you be able to say No to the American and wat explanation will you give? And will you be able to forget him completely, if married to the other guy? Also to make a hard choice, you should write down the pros and cons of each choice . Then say if i remove all the cons of the Canadian guy, like if he took amrit, will that convince me? If not, then it means ur heart is already set on the other. Also if the american moved to canada, will that be enough to convince you he's the one without a doubt? If not, then maybe consider the other person

When we become too relaxed, we fall asleep. If we have been sitting down too long. Blood starts collecting in our legs and doesnt flow as fasr, so we dont get enough oxygen. So move around. Maybe do mool mantar standing up with folded hands, like an ardaas, begging for darshan. Most importantly, concentrate on the meanings. Also u can try to do simran in bir asan position that the panj pyare take. Or after like 15 mins. Do 5 jumping jacks, then sit down and start doin simran again. Also try to put some emotion into it, like I am calling out to God, who is my beloved, and I have been forcefully seperated from him. And without my origin, i am dry and worthless. And whats even worse, in maya i have forgotten who God is, and that I was seperated from him. You can also try to do simran loudly. Also try to say waheguru with each breath. Also keep switching positions or ways of doing simran, so u dont fall asleep

Theres ethnic romanians. Who are usually dark haired but caucasian. Then theres gypsys who settled in romania. The gypsys usually referred to as roma. So most gypsys are from romania, but all romanians arent gypsys. @Starstriker usually comments on this passionately

Well if the person gives up a gay lifestyle and takes amrit, obviously.But can he be called sikh while hes living the gay lifestyle ? That ght there shows the trouble with the whole concept of sehajdhari. Anyone can call themselves a sikh while doing unethical, nonSikh things. Basically picking and choosing. But that happens in every religion. Even islam has women who dont cover, dont believe in hadiths, claim shariah is manmade, are Quranist only and claim they are muslim to the chagrin of other muslims. We can higjlight that there is a definition of a sikh and add more limitations, not that that would help. As theres already ppl calling themselves gay sikhs...but we could try limiting who is a sehajdhari. For example, SRM says a sikh 1) believes in 1 God 2) believes in all 10 gurus and their writings 3) takes sggs as their guru 4)believes in no other religion 5) believes in amrit.....this here is wat we can use to further define a sehajdhari: we can say therefore a sehajdhari must stay away from 4 bujjar kurehits: so no drugs, drinking, dating, gay lifestyle etc...and if we wanted we could say the kesh kurehit is the last one, a sehajdhari gives up, to show he is reasy for amrit. Also we can say a sehajdhari is always prepping for amrit so must start doing paath atleast japji sahib and rehraas sahib. No that theres anyway to enforce this and excluding ppl is not gonna help

Woah this reads like a post from 90s. It brought back memories. When there would be poems or posts or chain email messages "FW: Very Important!! Current State of the Panth. Forward to all singhs singhnian." Those were the good ol days.ppl were always telling sikhs to fix themselves and get beyond judging ppl on their looks, jathebandis. It was so simple. Now theres so.many issues that sikhs differ on and have diff organizatiins for. Theres ppl wantin khalistaan, some ppl wanting more parchaar, others wantin 1 rehit, others trying to find oldest raag, or purattan shastar vidhiya, some wanting no inter faith, others wanting to stop muslims...it was so much simpler back then.. PS Surely nobody argues about the meat flavored chips. I thought we were all past that. And unto more advanced issues

I wonder how kalaals fit in with the brahmin society? Why were they allowed to exist as sharaab is considered a major vish....maybe cuz the kshatriya rajputs drank alcohol so brahmins allowed it.... Also i think u are right that afeem and alcohol were not considered bujjar kurehits back then. sikhs in that time essentially did wat hindu rajas did, drink, have multiple wives, ate meat except beef or halaal. And only those things that were foreign or malaish such as tobacco and muslim women were considered dharam bhrist. Otherwise why would ranjit singhs be only punished when marrying a muslim and not for the other 24 wives he had? Its true that afeem is part of panjabi culture. I wonder if our ancestors used to have opium fields? I know my grandmothers dad was addicted to afeem, and this was way before the current lehar of nashe in panjab. (He still tried to be anakhi and would not beg for money or put his family in debt, just ragar some khaskhas n sleep in if he couldnt get his feem) And we have had amlees or addicts in villages since olden times I remember when i had recurring fever that wouldnt go away in india, my dad offered me a doda, opium pod, saying it would totally dry out the fever. As an amritdhari, i refused vehemently, but now i feel stupid as ive realized most medicines are opiods based. And i just learned from my biochem prof that travelers diarrhoea can be cured by taking SMALL amt of opium by mouth. So yes i can imagine that sukha and feem and even alcohol had non-reacreational usage among sikhs. (Alchol is a great antiseptic for wounds and stuff) but it quickly got out of hand esp during the raaj For sukha tho, if given to children and teenagers, it can affect their brain giving them lower IQ

You could be right....even now panjabis r more likely to drink then do hookah or cigarettes.... But currently alcohol is part of the bujjar kurehits. I think it might have to do with sikh ppl avoidin anythin malesh or foreign...l

Thats true But i think i wrote that to illustrate that punishments for kurehits used to be severe

Blouse was imposed or suggested by the british. One can tell from the word origin. Usually indian women just wore sari, as it was easier to breast feed. I think in indian culture, bare chest was not seen as bad or suggestive. The barechest was a symbol of motherhood. That is why, in india women are allowed to breast feed openly.Even now some fisherwomen in maharastra still wear sari without blouse. Rule by the mughal and british ppl has changed the attitude of ppl. Tho i wonder when panjabi women adopted kaghare, garaare instead of sari. The transition from kagare/garaare to suits is fairly recent. My grandma says it happened when she was young. Her grandmother would not leave the house without tying a garaara over her salwaar, even just to deliver food to the fields. Suit and salwaar was common, but her grandma stuck to the old ways and did not feel comfortable stepping out of the house without a garaara.

I think a turban does not have much to.do.with spirituality or morality. It has to do.with khalsa and the Sikh panth. If u want to join the army or nation of the khalsa, you will need to follow the rules and wear the uniform. Remember SGGS ji is the universal guru, and will teach and protect anyone in their sharan. You can be a sikh, whos only aim is to better himself or you can be a sikh who wants to help all of humanity and the sikh panth in which case you will join the khalsa. Another note, i am not sure how far a sikh can go spiritually if he has not formally accepted the guru ie taken amrit. Which would mean wearing a dastaar. Also one should respect a turban wearing sikh, because he is proclaiming to the world that he is proud of his guru and is saying that i belong to the guru and is telling the world, he is committed to following the guru. One has to respect that commitment while a mona person gets all benefits from his guru, asks for things, gets paath done, but is not ready to accept the guru. And if a person wearing a turban is doing bad things, then i think we all have the right to tell them off because they are lying. On one hand they r saying i am committed to the guru while they purposely do the opposite