Sachseeker

Have you heard of the sakhi when guru nanak dev ji went to mecca and the mullah asked him to not point his feet at the khaba. God is every where. Guru is shabad the guru granth sahib is a vehicle to deliver it. Do you think you are doing beadbi of guru granth sahib when sitting at home as Im sure your back will be to a guru granth sahib somewhere in the world.

Just a quick question Why was the Liverpool Gurdwara thread closed?

To be fair I think if there was a mass migration to the Punjab of western Sikhs then the condition of Punjab could only improve. They would obviously improve the political parties as they would not stand for the atrocities that are committed by the current parties and also they would take it on the selves to improve the infastructure and other aspects of the beauracatics process as they would want it to the standard that they are used to. As said the power of the pound compared to the rupee would mean that there would definately be more money in the punjab so farmers could charge more and so on and so on also it would solidify the need for an soveriegn nation of sikhs as the support for a welfare state etc and a properly run democracy would be the basic need of all the residents of pujab.

I have stood up. The issue we have with the committe is that the Guru Granth Sahibs Parkash and Sakasan is not done every day and guru is kept "asleep for days on end. This is partly due to the fact that the committee feel the need to change our Giani Ji every 4 weeks without notice or any reason given to the sangat. The sangat has never complained about a Giani Ji. The daughter of the Vice President said openly that the Giani Ji did not know how to do his job. I would like to ask what is her qualification that she can comment that he does not know how to do his job. Certain people are not allowed to enter the gurdwara as when questions have been raised they call the police and say they are trouble makers so therefore if the beadbi is going on when the committee is challanged Sangat is then excluded from the Gurdwara and not allowed to enter. The committee has said to people of the sangat that they only turn up for Langar, I consider this to be beadbi as Guru ka Langar is exactly that who are the committee to say this to the members of the sangat. Guru Ghar Ka Vajeer Giani Ji was threatened with physical violence is this not beadbi of our Guru. The sangat were invited to a meeting last night at the Gurdwara when we turned up there was a padlock on the gate and the police had also arrived to attend the meeting only for it to be mysteriously cancelled for the second time. It would seem that the committee do not wish to engage in any amicable solution to the beadbi as they know that it has happened. I would also like to say the current committe solicited the votes of Hindus to come to gain control of the Gurdwara is this not beadbi that a different religioun voted the committee in to run a Gurdwara. Many stands have been made but the Committee uses it muscle to intimidate people and also tells the police that the sangat that complain are trouble causers. I would love for the matter to be settled amicably as no sikh would like to see these things go on at their Gurdwara but if the committee doesnt answer to the sangat then who does it answer to.

So not really investigated properly? Is it not beadbi to call the police into the guru ka darbar when the granthi is trying to address the sangat to tell them that he was threatened by the commitee?

My first step would be to make sure every gurdwara in the world has a copy of the 1945 sikh rehat maryada and make sure it conducts itself according to that and that the gurdwara do not deviate from this.

I would like to ask the Satkar Sevadars again what has been the outcome of these meeting and discussions. It would seem that not much is being done to resolve the issue.

is this the new big gurdwara commitee saying this?

Can I ask if the satkaar sevadars have had their discussions with the commitee and what was the outcome.