Sherdil

Okay sorry bro, I misunderstood. However, farmers can't stop farming because that is their only means of livelihood. They used to join the military in large numbers, but the government has put a quota on the number of Sikhs that can join the army now. Sikhs are gulaam in India, just like Sant ji said. They have no choice, but to farm and they get paid scraps in return. There is no way out for the small farmers besides suicide. Even NRI land is rented out to small farmers. No farming means no money.

They did that in the 80's. Punjabi farmers withheld food and taxes from the central govt. to protest against the rejection of Anandpur Resolution. Indira Gandhi deployed 100,000 troops in Punjab, and it also caused her to hasten the attack on Harmandir Sahib. Sant ji had overlived his usefulness as the boogeyman. It was all a front to cripple Akali political dominance in Punjab.

Idk...us rural peasants might need the help of other groups too. Maybe ask some of them to take on their fair share of responsibility as well. As long as we move forward together.

Tell that to the central government. They don't want to industrialize Punjab because it is a border state with a hostile enemy. Vast farmlands provide a good battle ground against Pakistan. They will have to industrialize once the water runs out. It will run out. It's only a matter of time.

Wow...the height of ignorance. You wear it with such pride! I brought up Sant ji to show that not all Jatts are the same. I'm not bragging that he was from my caste. It's your inferiority complex blinding you again! If Punjab is going down the drain, it's because of the Indian govt. They've taken our water, and made us grow rice and wheat at marginal prices to feed the rest of the country. But go ahead. Keep blaming Jatts. It makes you feel better for any injustice you think you've suffed. Why don't you sign up for the Congress Party while you're at it. Jatts are not on their knees. The ones with big land holdings are doing better than okay. They don't even farm anymore. They lease the land to small farmers or they have sold their land a long time ago. It's the small farmers who never got theirs during the Green Revolution, who are suffering. I pray that you never see a Non-jatt drinking alcohol or doing drugs. It just might be too much for you to handle and burst the little bubble you are living in. As a matter of fact, don't ever leave your house. This way your warped view of the world will remain intact.

There is no Gurdwara called "Jatt so and so gurdwara", but there are plenty of Gurdwaras called Ramgarhia, Labana, whatever. You make it sound like Non-jatts aren't allowed in certain gurdwaras. I'm not talking about the pindh in Punjab. I'm talking about Western countries. If a non-Jatt walks into a "Jatt Gurdwara" do you think alarms are gonna go off? Are they gonna grab you and throw you out? No they won't! Do you have your caste written on your forehead?? Even if you did, it wouldn't matter. It has to do with committees that run the gurdwaras. Unfortunately they are caste based, but to go and make your own gurdwara based on your own caste isn't solving the problem! I don't know why you can't understand this. If Jatts discriminate against you, then why do you have to discriminate against each other? Bania vs Kamboj vs Tarkhan vs Labana vs whatever. Are Jatts forbidding you guys from mixing with each other? Give me a break!!

Only a fool would say that this is God given justice. Way to alienate your own brothers. By the same token, what happened to Sikhs in Delhi was God's justice too. Let it be known: When Sikhs came running from West Punjab, they found East Punjab being run by Jatts. They saw us as unfiltered and uncivilized rural folk, so they moved on to Delhi and made their own Gurdwara Committee. Do you know of the Green Revolution??? The World Bank and US govt. designated India to be an experiment for a new genetically engineered miracle seed that would feed the new Asian nations and save them from the spread of communism. Punjab was selected as the experiment site, and the farmer was the guinea pig. Genetic crops did produce high yields, but they drained the soil of nutrients and water. The weak genetic crops were decimated by pests. So the World Bank allowed foreign pesticide companies to pump Punjab full of chemicals. That is why Punjab is a leading cancer state. Punjabi suba movement gave the central govt. an excuse to drain Punjab's water into Haryana. Till this day, Punjab is the ony state in India that doesn't have control over its own water. Punjab's water table is receding every year. Soon it will be a desert. The Punjabi farmer has been forced to make do with inferior crops and minimal water to feed the entire country food that are not even a traditional part of the Punjabi diet. The big landholders were able to make money and live comfortably for the rest of their lives, but the small farmers are stuck in a cycle of debt, because they need to borrow money to build irrigation systems. But then then they can't pay back the money because their weak crops get decimated by pests. There isn't even a formal money lending system in India to protect them. All these grievences were included in Anandpur Sahib Resolution. The govt. rejected them. Sant ji was fighting for these things. Don't forget that he was from a farmer background too.

Sorry for multiple posts. My Internet connection is poor, as I'm currently traveling abroad. It is wrong for Jatts to treat Mazbhis poorly in a gurdwara. But then why don't you guys invite them into your wn gurdwaras? You guys want nothing to do with them either. It is easy to bame just one group, but if all of the other castes joined together, they would outnumber Jatts by a lot. Man, if a Jatt insists that you provide your caste name then give him a good slap. He is an <banned word filter activated>, but blaming all Jatts for the actions of a few idiots is wrong. That's like calling all blacks criminals or all orientals bad drivers. I am a Jatt. I will not deny that. That is what my ancestors did. That does not make me better than you, nor does it make me less than you. If you are a Sikh, then you are my brother and I got your back. That's all I'm gonna say.

Brahmins still practice the caste system. In that same video (I believe there are multiple parts), a Hindu doctor is not treated with the same respect as his colleagues, or even his juniors, because he is from a lower caste. India has been run by the same Brahmin family since its inception. Let's see a Dalit become Prime Minister before we say Brahmins have washed their hands clean. Those songs bigging up Jatts were never meant to turn into the gandh they are today. Putt Jattan De by Surinder Shinda is such an innocent song. He's not saying Jatts are better than anyone else. He was giving Jatts something to feel proud of. As if "Yeah I'm a son of a farmer, and I don't care what you think of it. This is who I am, if you don't like it then whatever. Bruah!"I don't listen to most of the nonsense that is passed off as Bhangra music today. I agree with Bobby Friction. CASTE SONGS SHOULD BE BANNED.

What bakwaas is this? Go back and read the posts. Nobody claimed that their ancestors did anything like this. I was describing things that used to happen during my grandparents time, after some posters insisted that I ask them about it. I never said my grandparents did this. Nobody is condoning caste abuse. Nobody is sayng they are above or below anyone else. If you wanna get mad at the past then go and blame Brahmans. They are the ones who put you in your castes in the first place. You all practice caste. You all have your own caste gurdwaras. You all use your caste surnames. None of you extended a hand out to the Dalits. You wanna fix the caste problem? Fix yourselves first.

If there is a war, who gonna be sent to the front lines to die? SIKHS!!!!

Other 15th century Arabic paintings match closely with the style of OP's picture.

From their names, the victims appear to be Sikhs. India is shady though. Let's see. EDIT: Chatttisinghpura Massacre. 36 Sikhs killed by Hindu militants in JK. India blamed it on Pakistani extremists. Occurred in March 2000, and coincided with Clinton's visit to Pakistan. Apologies

Yeah you right. People take advantage of our kindness. Although, we did fight back in the 80's. We just too small a minority. Nobody is doing parchar to increase our numbers. We just keep dividing ourselves up into factions. The other day I read about a Sehajdhari Sikh party running against Akali Dal. LOL. We just keep slapping ourselves.

Why are Singhs chasing blondes in short skirts? What's wrong with the bibiyan who go to gurdwara every Sunday and do seva? Why do they get ignored? Mad hypocritical.

It has happened in Gujarat. Sikh farmers cultivated land that nobody else wanted. They made crops grow where no one else could. Then Modi's govt. took out a court order to freeze their land holdings. Why are Gujarat's borders closed to Sikhs, when Punjab's borders are open to everyone?

Seli Topi "Nanick's coat is blue, his cap particoloured red, yellow and blue."

If people stop eating langar, then the sevadars will have no seva! You would disrupt the entire gurdwara ecosystem!

Much love to SikhWorldTv and Pehlvan for putting up the video. When people see a sardar, they see a religious person. I'm talking about Western people. So when a Singh goes on a dating show, he comes off as a hypocrite. The same way we would cringe if we saw a Hijabi or a Hasidic Jew on one of those shows. The reaction would be "What? Are you serious?" That's why it comes off a bit comical. He's a decent looking guy, he dresses well, and he has a good personality. I think the irony of the situation is what put everyone off. Anyone who wears their religion on their sleeve, and goes on those dating shows, is bound for failure.

Oh, idk I was told differently. I thought the trend started during Guru Gobind Singh ji's time and during Khalsa Raj. If they became Sikhs, then they got privileges and protection. I didn't know about that book. I will look into it. Thanks.

Jodie <banned word filter activated>...I mean winkler. If there was ever a time I would support a girl wearing a burqa, you would be it. Dumb blonde.

Can someone post a link to the show, for those of us not in the UK? I wanna see what happened too!!!

LOL. I'll be ready for them. Dishoo, Dishoo, Dishoo!!!

Of course it's okay. He is your father. He helped bring you into this world, and he helped to raise you. He has put a roof over your head. Try reasoning with your dad. Tell him that Sikhi is important to you, and you do not feel comfortable when he drinks.

Whenever we corner them on the '84 issue, they retreat by calling us Khalistani extremists. We saw the same thing after Bhai Rajoana's ordeal. Manmohan "Singh" went to Canada, U.S.A. and U.K. to tell their governments to crack down on Sikh "extremism". There was no extremism going on. People were just more vocal about the unfair treatment of Sikhs and the lack of justice for '84 victims. Canada's govt. has told India that they will not compromise on their principle of freedom of speech. India doesn't understand the concept.