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  1. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Vah...such love for each other as Gursikhs. I mean both sides here. "To those honouring Santa Singh, do you really think that this person is a role model for Sikh???" Baba Santa Singh presented himself in front of the Akal Takht Sahib for his misdeeds and was forgiven. Maryada states that one who is forgiven is to be treated as a brother without any reservations. He did do seva of making the Sarbloh Granth Sahib available to the Panth. So sure, if there is a barsi to honor his seva, great. Perhaps you should attend to learn what he did after he was forgiven by the Akal Takht Sahib. "jai ma da dood peeta..otherwise stay at home and paint your nails.." Wow...open challenges inviting physical violence...Gursikhi Da Partakh Darshan. How quickly Gursikhs forget Gurbani - Gur Mere Sang Sada Hai Nalae...Guru Gobind Singh Ji and Mata Sahib Kaur must be proud of the both of you.
  2. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH http://akj.org/skins/one/books.php?ch=1&bookid=2 - Amrit Ki Hain - explanation of what is Amrit.
  3. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH "Amrtidhari women are out of the question as they are only allowed to marry a fellow amritdhari and they tend to go for them only as a result. " I believe you answered your own question. Anything stopping you from taking that step or following the path of Sikhism?
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    Gurdwara Issues

    VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH PM me if you still need help with some details (location in London, person's name, date of incident etc.). I can try to contact someone in the area. It's important before this person actually comitts a criminal act and shames the Sikh image.
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    Curly Dhara Sahib!

    VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Apply oil and comb it...that will keep it healthy and tangle free. Don't worry about it being straight.
  6. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH At the end of the Amrit Sanchar, the Punj Pyare also do an Ardaas that if there were any shortcomings in the seva, that Akal Purakh forgive them. Akal Purakh is ever forgiving and the Ardaas completes the Amrit. So stop worrying about where the Paath was read to and concentrate on the more important things: Amrit Vela, Simran, Nitnem, Gurbani Paath, Keertan, Katha, Seva. And NEVER EVER worry about what Rehat was given to another brother and sister: Guru Sahib knows who needs more/less Rehat to get the person started on the Sikhi path. The Rehat was given - it is the starting line of this Sikhi path...walk with your brothers and sisters on that path as best as you can and never focus on the little differences/variations or get stuck in one jathebandi - this can cause a Sikh to stagnate and not progress.
  7. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Khalsa is not a Hindu Kshytria. Khalsa is the ideal human, and encompasses the good of all four castes - The thought is of a Brahman, which meditates on the Almighty and sees the Almighty in all, the duty of a Kshytria, which protects all from subjugation and oppression as part of their Dharma, the life of a Vaishya, which conducts himself in worldly duties to make a living and be a contributor to society and the Sudra in ego, lowest of the low. I know that someone will chime in with saying that Kshytria is a term to designate a holy warrior that fights for the rights of all, but perhaps they should realize that when the term Kshytria is used in front of anyone, its immediate association is with Hinduism, much like there are those who say that Sanatan Sikhi is traditional Sikhi, but everyone who is versed in Indian terminology knows that Snatan Dharam means Hinduism. The fact that Dasam Patshah himself preached Kul Nash, the idea of all of your past family associations and caste being no more at the Amrit Sanchar and then himself begged for Amrit and the same Rehat (Kul Nash being a part of it) should make it abundantly clear that the Khalsa was not made part of the Sodhi clan, but rather a Niara Panth, separate from all of the Hindu castes. His own last name was changed to Singh - the author seems to be ignoring this with that statement. So Khalsa Panth is not a "Suraj Bannsya" - if this is true, then the Panth of Guru Nanak is a separate Panth from the Panth of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, as he was from a different genetic family. So terming Khalsa as Kshytria - perhaps that idea deserves a re-review. And for historical purposes, fine, documenting the genetic lineage of Guru Sahib is fine, but with firm understanding that the Guru ultimately shed his caste to become one of the Khalsa is of prime importance. Perhaps someone can comment on Giani Gian Singh's comments that Namdharis are more than willing to quote: http://www.kukasikhs.com/kukasikhs/gurubalak.htm http://www.sikh heritage co uk/research/history%20of%20Kukas%20by%20GGS/History%20ggs.htm Perhaps we should stop relying solely on what scholars write and start to weigh this with what the Gurus themselves say in Gurbani?
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    Please Help Me

    VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH First, you need to stop being the judge of whether you are worthy of Amrit. The Punj Pyare will make that determination and administer accordingly. Your job is to show up, go in front of them and express the desire to become part of the Khalsa Panth - they will do the rest. If the Punj Pyare do not deem you to be worthy of being made part of the Khalsa Panth, they will TELL YOU and tell you what to do to become worthy. So leave it to them to do that. You go and present yourself. I passed on an Amrit Sanchar for 2-3 years myself and ended up becoming part of the Khalsa Panth as I was to be married to an Amritdhari Gursikh. I was soooo happy that such an excuse was provided to me to make my donkey-mind have no choice but to go in front of Guru Sahib and become his child. All it is is your manmukh mind trying to give you excuses to not become a Sikh, I assure you. Guru Sahib has done beant Kirpa on you that you know the Nitnem Banis - it is time to do Bhagti on them and take full laha as a member of the Khalsa. If you let another Amrit Sanchar pass by, are you sure you will live to see another one? Do Ardaas and go to the Amrit Sanchar. No Ifs and Buts.
  9. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Daas asks for forgiveness for any mistakes. I am sure there are many more Maryadas that the Sangat will provide. Daas hopes to be able to embody the concepts below fully himself one day, as moorakhta > Gurmat in life. If one has Prakash of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji at his home, why is it still important to go to the Gurdwara Sahib? "Avar Kaaj Tere Kitae Na Kaam, Mil Sadhsangat Bhaj Keval Naam" - Rehras Sahib. The Sadh Sangat can be found at the Gurudwara Sahib. So where it is great that many Gursikhs have parkash at home, the Sadh Sangat is found in greater numbers in the Gurudwara Sahib. Consider each Sikh who is immersed in meditation as an amplifier - the more Sikhs, the more the immersion in Gurbani Keertan/Paath, the more Chardi-Kalaa, the more Anand, the more Kamai. What is the significance of bowing before Sahib Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj? Complete surrender - you are placing your head at the feet of the Guru. One who does this is giving up manmat - literally translating to their own path and telling the Guru that they are at the mercy of Guru Sahib and will follow Gurmat - the Guru's Way. What is the correct way of bowing before Sahib Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Per a Gursikh local to me and kinda hard to explain in words, spread a hazooria over both hands so that when you matka tek with your palms to the ground, the hands do not make direct contact with the ground and bow your head. That is matha tek. There are some premi Gursikhs who do dandaut as well - they lie flat on the ground with their hands folded in front of them - a pose of utter and complete surrender. Nanaksar babae are insistent that if you are to do any seva, that your hands do not make direct contact with the ground - if so, go wash them. Why is Langar important? Langar = the great equalizer. Whether rich or poor, high or low occupation/caste, it embodies the "Aval Allah Noor Upaiya Kudrat Kae Sabh Bandae" concept - that all humans are equal. The same food for all. Sitting on the floor at equal level is also a pose of humility, as no seating is arranged for any person (barring handicap). What is the correct way of doing Langar Sewa? With Sharda and Sucham. Some Gursikhs are very insistent upon only Amritdharis doing the cooking seva, while some also advocate only Sarbloh should be used in the preparation of langar . It has been claimed that a sign reflecting this Maryada was posted on Harimandir Sahib, but no picture has ever been provided of said sign. Also, only Gurbani/Gurmantar/Mool Mantar are to be recited while doing seva. Outside of cooking, everyone has the right to do seva. Main concepts - concentration on Gurbani/Gurmantar/Mool Mantar while doing seva, no idle talking (talk only that which is necessary for seva). Many Sikhs tie a Kamarkasa whenever engaging in a seva - both a sign of the Sikh being ready to do seva and if tied correctly, good back support as well (call it a Puratan weight belt). Clean hands are essential when distributing food. Direct contact with the eating Pangat's dishes should not happen to prevent the transferring of jhoot. I.e. do not put the lip of the jug against the lip of a glass or put your karchi/hands/spoon on the person's plate. This is why you will see Sikhs also giving parshadae to the person's hands with a couple of inches of a gap in between - to maintain Sucham. One Nihung baba of the are also insists that one should do seva with one langar item only, and when changing to another item, should wash his/her hands. Daas is sure there are other Maryadas that others will provide. Of course, langar is not langer unless it is made parvaan/has bhog done to it with Ardaas and Kirpan Bhet. How should one perform Ardass? With full Sharda and from the heart. That is one very essential component. There are two Ardaas types per this moorakh's learning: Formal and Informal. Formal is commonly seen as Ardaas that is performed after Nitnem/Gurudwara Divan and starts with Ik Onkaar, Sri Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh (from Dasam Patshah's Chandi Di Vaar) and ends with Nanak Naam Chardi Kalaa, tere Bhanae Sarbat Da Bhalaa. This Ardaas should be done standing up - 52 Hukams of Dasam Patshah make specific mention of standing for Ardaas after Rehras Sahib. With a hazooria in hand (many Gursikhs grasp the each lar of the Hazooria in their hands while doing Ardaas) in a standing position, Ardaas is commenced. This is akin to olden Eastern Darbars of great Kings - that when asking for something from a King, they would put a "palla" on their neck, hold it in their folded hands and do a request for something. There is also the informal Ardaas - when a Sikh remembers Guru Sahib and requests something. For instance, some Gursikhs are doing Ardaas through Keertan - when they ask Guru Sahib for Naam/Seva/Anand/etc., some are doing it when listening to Katha, and in their mind, they ask Guru Sahib for the strength of the Puratan Sikhs, Gursikhi Jeevan etc. That is an Ardaas also, but an informal impromptu one. Guru Sahib has also stated in the 52 Hukams that before the beginning of any work, a Sikh should do Ardaas, and this is reflected in many Gurudwaras at the Divan Smapti, when the Ardaasia Sikh does Ardaas and includes the name of a Sikh who is about to start a task for Guru Sahib's blessing. In Ardas, what should one ask Guru Ji for? Whatever you need within the boundaries of Sikhism. There is no shame in asking for worldly things to continue to function in this world - i.e. food, clothing, education. After all, Guru Sahib/Akal Purakh is our mother and father and the provider. Where else does a child get things but from the parents? However, a Gursikh will ask for Naam/Gursikhi Jeevan/Gurmat Budhi - we as for it everyday when saying "Gursikhan Nu Sikhi Daan, Bibek Daan" etc. - Ultimately, Gursikhs ask for something along the lines of "Raaj Nah Chahoon, Mukht Nah Chahoon, Man Preet Charan Kamalaree" - that the Sikh ever reside at the feet of the Guru and the Guru keep him/her on the Gursikhi path with increased Maryada and Chardi-Kalaa. Gursikhs asks for various things, but the center theme is for a true Gursikhi Jeevan that Guru Sahib would be pleased with. Asking for maya and things that fuel the 5 vikaars - Guru Sahib may even grant that (father and mother they are after all), but Gurbani warns that such things will entrap a being further and take them away from Sikhi. So ask for necessities, not luxuries. The Shabad "Mitar Pyare Nuh Haal Muridiaa Da Kehna" is the high avastha that every Gursikh desires. Should we bow before Mahapurakhs? What is the view of Gurmat on this? Gurbani states "Kar Sadhu Anjai Pun Vada Hai, Kar Dandaut Pun Vada Hai" - that to do Namaskar and Dandaut of a Sadhu (i.e. Sant, Mahapurakh) is a good deed. This is to be tempered with a Hukamnama (and a most appropriate one) that none should ever bow down to a person, even a Mahapurakh, in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib Ji - as when the true King is present, all bow before that true King only. Outside of that, many Gursikhs do bow down to Mahapurakhs (may see Sant Baba Isher Singh's visit to Britain for evidence) in view of this Gurbani verse. Some Gursikhs are of the view that a Sikh should never bow to another Sikh, but the above verse seems to say otherwise. Daas views the Hukamnama from the Akal Takht Sahib to be a good guide - if Gursikhs so choose to bow down to a Mahapurakh, so be it, as long as it is not in the presence of the Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Rest Akal Purakh knows, as many Mahapurakhs are most happy with a good VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH. Daas will say no more on this and leaves the rest for the Gursikhs to do Vichaar upon, as Daas still has too much haumai to bow down to any human. What is the significance of pilgrimage in Sikhism? 52 Hukams state that only Gurudwarae should be places of pilgrimage. The concept of a pilgrimage in religions was that devotees would depart with the highest of ideals on the pilgrimage - they would keep their respective diety/the Almighty in mind at all times, meet Sangat that would maintain the same ideals, do vichaar/Satsang on the way, further inspiring their religious life and then pay homage at the end destination, having grown from such an undertaking. Pilgrimages, however, became a ritual, where people began to believe that the mere trip, devoid of all of the mental preparation, Satsang and vichaar was a path to salvation - i.e. one could go cursing and hating to the 68 pilgrimage centers of Hinduism and become liberated solely on the merit of having visited the required number. Guru Sahib stopped this and insisted that the only place for a Sikh to do pilgrimage to is a Gurudwara for two reasons - that a Sikh should pay homage to only the one Almighty through the Gurbani and Sadh Sangat, and that it be a place of Sikhism only. Some Sikhs still do not follow this and make pilgrimages to Hindu places and are themselves confused as to their religion and religious practices. What is the Gurmat view on pursuing Education? Guru Sahib made the ideal human. The ideal human should be educated in all matters, whether spiritual, social, martial or economic. The 52 Hukams tell the Sikh to educate themselves in martial arts, horseriding, texts of other faiths, as well as learn Gurbani paath from Gursikhs. Dassam Patshah sent 5 Sikhs to Kashi to learn the Sanskriti gyan to be passed on to the Sikh Panth (Nirmalas). Guru Sahiban themselves were great literary poets - apart from the endless gyan in Gurbani, the structure of Gurbani on its poetical meters alone is amazing. A Sikh is not a recluse - he/she is one who embodies all four castes into one being - the Brahmin, who contemplates the Almighty at all times, The Kshytri - the religious warrior who fights for the sake of liberty and all Dharms and the right to practice them, the Vaishya - who conducts day to day business as a householder living in the world (but yet mentally removed and attached to the Almighty) and the Sudra, who is humble in all acts and words at all times. The perfect being is not barred from learining anything, and SHOULD learn something, whether it be a trade or profession. Guru Sahib has said, "Ghaal Khaae Kishh Hathhahu Dhaee || Naanak Raahu Pashhaanehi Saee ||1|| One who works for what he eats, and gives some of what he has - O Nanak, he knows the Path. ||1||" How does one do this without an education? So education is vastly important, both worldly and spiritual. What view does Sikhism have on Marriage? Sikhism is fully accepting of Gristi Jeevan. The Gurus were all married, had children and lived life as householders. Sikhism has no problem with that person who can travel the Gurmat path without marriage and does not desire it (some great Mahapurakhs), but marriage is fully accepted as a part of Gursikhi jeevan. Even the Almighty is described as the biggest householder of all: Grasathan Mehi Thoo(n) Baddo Grihasathee Jogan Mehi Jogee ||3|| Among householders, You are the Great Householder. Among yogis, You are the Yogi. ||3|| What is the correct way of taking Hukamnama from Sahib Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj? What is the significance of the Hukamnama? - good guidelines. How should one respect Granthi Sahibans? The most neglected Sikhs in the Panth. We are unfortunate that we hold the view that the useless boy in the Pind should be made a granthi/ragi - common place in India. A good granthi Sikh is a priceless treasure of Seva, Sangat, Gurmat and Prem. Through their daily routine (provided it is strict and in line with Gurmat), they become experts of Gurmat/Gurbani and Gursikhi. From such Sikhs, a Sikh should learn paath/Keertan/Gurmat and respect them as much as possible and attend to their worldly needs to their best ability. Meeting them with prem and respect, listening to what they have to say and learning from them is a high form of respect. Even Granth Sikhs who entered the "profession" out of necessity and no other jobs available/immigration to another country - give them respect and love, and you will be surprised that they will be able to teach you things, tell you things and at least be a Gursikh friend - you can support and elevate each other to higher levels or at least make their day much happier after meeting them. I personally had this experience with a local Gurudwara. Many Granthi Sikhs are under the thumb of management and get treated badly - ordered around and even forced to compromise Gurmat. Meeting with these Sikhs and giving them respect and love and they always meet me with a smile and love. The same granthi Sikhs who the committee orders around and considers uneducated are also fountains of knowledge on Sikhi as well. Part of the reason the granthi Sikhs are in the pitiable state is because we have made them that way. If the Sangat respects the granthi Sikhs of a Gurudwara, the Sikhs will in turn be much more loyal, great guides to Gurmat Maryada and even ideals of Gursikhi (Guru Kirpa Kare on all of the Gurmukh Sevadaars in Gurudwaras). When leaving one’s house to go to the Gurdwara, is there any maryada which should be obeyed? You are going to the Gurudwara to join Guru Sahib and the Sangat - start the kamai before you leave the house. Do Ardaas for Sangat, Chardi-Kalaa, Naam Daan, Gursikhi Jeevan, Gurmat at home before leaving. On the way, listen to Gurbani, do Simran, do Gurbani paath, do Gurbani Keertan (instruments not required - God built one in you called the voice). Baba Ranjit Singh said in one of his Divaans that it takes many minutes to get to and from a Gurudwara - you might as well increase your kamai that much by starting Gurbani paath, Simran (listening to or doing) on the way. Compare this with idle talk, arguing and manmat speech - it not only ruins the mindset of the person who is going to the Gurudwara, but removes an opportunity to engage in Gurmat/Gurbani. Daas is of the opinion that if everyone started from home to go to the Gurudwara with Keertan/Simran/Paath, their whole mindset would be immersed in Gurbani and the very atmosphere would be full of Anand. Sadly, it is not always the case at Gurudwaras. How should a Sikh greet each other upon meeting? VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH - with some strength behind saying it, not like a mouse. Some Gursikhs also hug each other out of prem, some touch each other's feet. Prem and Fateh = good recipe. How should one respect the Sadh Sangat? Seva - Guru Sahib has said many times in Gurbani to do seva of Gursikhs/Sangat. Also, do not disturb the Sangat - stupid as it ma sound, turn off the cell phones and other annoyances that can disturb the Sangat's concentration. Come to the Gurudwara with the intent of doing Sangat, not for langar or the latest fashion or to conduct worldly business (yes, it happens). Join them, be a part of them, engage in Gurbani Keertan/Paath/Simran with them and serve them through langar or other seva to make them more comfortable and meet their needs. The blessings of Sangat and Gursikhs is a great achievement. How should one do NITNEM? With Sharda and pyaar and with understanding. One should know what they are doing Paath of and learning its meanings from a learned Gursikh greatly expedites this. Rushing through it and doing it out of routine is not ideal. One concept that Sikhnet had in its articles is to have a regular place to do Paath/Keertan/etc. It does not have to be an entire room - could even be a corner of a room, but designated to only Paath/Keertan/etc. Your mind will become attached to that place as a place to only do Gurbani Paath/Keertan/etc. and it will have an aura of its own and put you in the right frame of mind when there. Where can one learn shudh path of Sahib Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj? From learned Gursikhs. When a Sikh remains in Sangat, he/she learns of these Gursikhs. They may be Granthi Sikhs, they may be gristi Sikhs, there may even be a school. Do Sangat and ask learned Gursikhs and they will guide you. Daas asks for forgiveness if the above is wrong. Bhul Chuk Maaf.
  10. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH PJS Bhai Sahib - if nobody has said it, your efforts are most appreciated. Keep up the seva - I cannot express my thanks to you. :D
  11. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Sangat Ji, I need a PDF of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in larivaar. I know there is one...I used to have it, but the place it was uploaded to has decided to "unload" my files... :sad: Most appreciated.
  12. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Soo...rather than having any real counterpoint, you provide an article of journalists being murdered and this is supposed to counter the tens of thousands of Sikhs who were innocently murdered by the Indian government and validate that Punjab wants peace? What praytell would you like the Sikhs to do about the murder - the police are PAID to figure it out and I highly doubt any common Sikh has the police training or authority to pursue a criminal investigation...shall we all go out and starting hunting down the person who is guilty? How do you propose we do that? If the police has yet to find the guilty party, shall the Sikh community immediately begin to blame their own? Your assertion that this action is representative of every Sikh who wants a separate homeland is about as silly as claiming that the Sikh Panth does not care for Sant Jarnail Singh Ji at all. How about I post this website up: http://carnage84.com/homepage/front.htm Tell me, what have you done for them? Why don't you get them justice? Or perhaps for attacking Harimandir Sahib and killing thousands of innocent worshippers? Or for perhaps the multitude of Guru Granth Sahib Ji's saroops that were/are desecrated? Or about the pinds upon pinds who lost their youth to police murder/genocide? Go read up on some history from 1947 onwards, from the time that Nehru told the Sikhs that the time has changed (now that the Brahmins were in power) to present and you see a trail of blood leading our from Delhi straight to the Punjab. How much justice has your precious India meted out? India is an embarassment to the world - that Kamal Nath had to go to U.S. to finally face a court summons is a slap in the face to everyone - where was the Indian justice system all this time in at least throwing his sorry behind in front of a judge? Get over it. Also, Kim Bolan is not very credible in the Sikh community, FYI. Anything which has her name mentioned will be scrutinized repeatedly by any Sikh. Awaiting your critique of any of Sant Jarnail Singh Ji's speeches...but not expecting much.
  13. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Let me know who these important indivduals were who made these important decisions! http://www.sikhiwiki.org/images/a/a6/SarbatKhalsa86.jpg <- 500,000 Sikhs in 1986. Youtube search Sarbat Khalsa 1986 to see the Sarbat Khalsa assembled. If you got all sikhs in India to vote for these points you have made, it would turn out to be a big NO to Bhindrawala and Khalistan 1986. I think sikhs in india got fed up with what happened after 1986, with terrorists going around killing, raping, abducting, making ransoms, shooting innocent civilians that they just stopped bothering with khalistan. My humble pleaa to all you guys who want khalistan, punjabis just want peace, please leave them alone. if you go to india now, nearly every sikh i meet doesnt give a damm about bhindrawale or khalistan. I know you find this hard to accept, but i reckon you should stop trying to cause tensions in other countries, like india. its obvious youre hell bent on get india partitioned again, but in the end your evil designs are going to fail. I agree 100% with H bhangal he is right, the only thing sikh channel has achieved is dividing the sikh panth, with bhindrawale supporters and extremists on one side, and liberals, educated sikhs on the other side. Curious: Have you actually listened to even one speech of Sant Jarnail Singh? You can choose to ignore it, or actually see what he was trying to say for once. Peace you say? Punjab is at peace? Ram Rahim, Ashutosh? Where is the peace? India does not give a care for Bhindrawala or Khalistan? Don't worry, they will. Whoever is deluding himself/herself in India thinking that the Brahmins obviously lives very far away from Punjab to not see the wholesale anti-Sikh deras and organizations attacking the faith in any way possible. It was the same pre-1984 too. Sikhs in India, it seems, have long term memory failure. And don't feed me any bullpucky about not being in Punjab and knowing what it was like. I was there for 1984 in Delhi when 3000 of my brothers/sisters/mothers/fathers were murdered. Ancient hsitory? Watch - it will repeat before our lifetimes and keep repeating until Sikhs wake up. "liberals, educated sikhs on the other side." Sorry to tell you, but the people living overseas are exactly all pendu - most of them are pursuing higher education or gainfully employed. The only difference between us and the Indian Sikh is that we have the liberty of being free from Bollywood and Indian media propaganda and can open our eyes without being bombarded with nonsense. I'll issue you a challenge: Go read or listen to ONE of Sant Jarnail Singh's speeches and come back here with a criticism of what he says and how it is anti-Sikhi. http://www.sikh-history.com/sikhhist/events/speech1.html - here's one.
  14. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Khalistan was accepted by the Sarbat Khalsa in the 1980s (1986 if I recall). Sant Jarnail Singh Ji was elected as the Sikh of the 20th century. Criticism of Panthic decisions are probably not going to be met with flowers and ladoos.
  15. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH That is like saying Hitler was a devout Christian. The actions of the person disqualify from being called a Nihung.
  16. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH ASAP. You never know when your time comes. What if you die on the 28th, or right now, or like 5 minutes? Is it worth risking to put it off and then have to answer to Dharam Raaj?
  17. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH One thing all married couples learn over time is that marriage = communication. Given your new marriage, it would be safe to assume that communication is not free flowing yet. Now would be a good time to start (provided your husband does not have any anger/violence issues). A sincere, honest and polite sit down talk is vital for this marriage to succeed. Otherwise, there may be things that are not being communicated on both sides that are leading to tension. This INCLUDES the bedroom - it may be time to communicate to each what is happening and your utter disdain for such acts - not everyone is into everything and he needs to know that. Talk it out and guage the response. You are NOT to blame - stop thinking of this as a blame problem - it is a communication problem. Politeness and some discretion in terms of behavior is required for open communication. If he does things that irritate you, you should tell him, but find the appropriate setting to do so (i.e. NOT in front of friends/family and NOT in a demeaning/rude manner). If it is at home, just tell him politely (but without hesitation...be firm but polite) that you have an issue with whatever he does. Now, take this with some flexibility - two people will NEVER have everything in common and the same dislikes/likes. So if the things that annoy you are little, weigh out whether it really needs to be made an issue vs. the benefits of bringing it up. Clinginess - well, he IS married to you . Seriously though, everyone has a different level of comfort with this. So what is clingy to you may be something else to someone. Telling your spouse that he is too clingy is not going to get a real good response (again...you are married...you are going to be kinda clinged together...hence that palla that you held during the Anand Karaj). Some of the clinglness may wear off in time, but you can try to channel it. Do stuff together as Gursikhs. Go to the Gurudwara and Sangat, Nagar keertans, etc. If he is shy (and you are not), try to find other married Gursikh couples to associate with so that he can slowly let go of you and start to build his his own friends. Try to find things you both like doing together or start to do some sort of seva together. It will foster some positivity and allow for growth. Being surrounded by people you don't like sounds like you moved in with the in-laws. That is a tough situation. How does your spouse feel about moving out? Is it am option? A lot of feelings get hurt with this separation (usually of the parents), but it may be for the best, as this may also be fueling some of your distress. Your husband could be completely different person if you both were alone. Marriage is HARD WORK - marriage with kids is even harder. So keep two things in mind. You have to (are supposed to) stay with this person for the rest of your life - might as well start to talk to him. A husban and wife who communicate and get along are nearly invinsible. They are the basic unit of Sangat for a Sikh, as Bhai Gurdas Sahib has stated that one Sikh is a Sikh, but two are Sangat. Divorce is serious stuff...forget legally, but spiritually. You did make a promise in front of Guru Sahib to get married (Anand Karaj) so keep that in mind. If communication can be started, you both may come to acceptable terms with each other and who knows, be happy together. Now, if he just does not listen, has a temper or angers or even (God Forbid any of this) is violent, you may need to seek some respected elder's advice or even the Punj Pyare if you are Amritdhari (after all, where else can a child go but to a parent's lap when nothing else works?). But the communication needs to start now if there is to be any hope for your marriage or any happiness in general. Do it now, before a child enters the equation and complicates the formula! Because if you both do not support each other now, that child will make you both crazy!!!! My best attempt to providing advice. It may work or it may not work. Most important step - do Ardaas from the bottom of your heart - say to Guru Sahib that Guru Ji, you destined us together, now please make us worthy of embodying the ideal of Gurbani: ma 3 || dhhan pir eaehi n aakheean behan eikat(h)ae hoe || eaek joth dhue moorathee dhhan pir keheeai soe ||3|| Third Mehla: They are not said to be husband and wife, who merely sit together. They alone are called husband and wife, who have one light in two bodies. ||3|| Guru Granth Sahib Ji 788.
  18. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH 1) Why it is so difficult to wake up at amritvela ? burae kaam ko oot(h) khaloeiaa || naam kee baelaa pai pai soeiaa ||1|| aousar apanaa boojhai n eiaanaa || maaeiaa moh ra(n)g lapattaanaa ||1|| rehaao || lobh lehar ko bigas fool bait(h)aa || saadhh janaa kaa dharas n ddeet(h)aa ||2|| kabehoo n samajhai agiaan gavaaraa || bahur bahur lapattiou ja(n)jaaraa ||1|| rehaao || bikhai naadh karan sun bheenaa || har jas sunath aalas man keenaa ||3|| dhrisatt naahee rae paekhath a(n)dhhae || shhodd jaahi jhoot(h)ae sabh dhha(n)dhhae ||1|| rehaao || kahu naanak prabh bakhas kareejai || kar kirapaa mohi saadhhasa(n)g dheejai ||4|| tho kishh paaeeai jo hoeeai raenaa || jisehi bujhaaeae this naam lainaa ||1|| rehaao ||2||8|| Soohee, Fifth Mehla: He gets up early, to do his evil deeds, but when it is time to meditate on the Naam, the Name of the Lord, then he sleeps. ||1|| The ignorant person does not take advantage of the opportunity. He is attached to Maya, and engrossed in worldly delights. ||1||Pause|| He rides the waves of greed, puffed up with joy. He does not see the Blessed Vision of the Darshan of the Holy. ||2|| The ignorant clown will never understand. Again and again, he becomes engrossed in entanglements. ||1||Pause|| He listens to the sounds of sin and the music of corruption, and he is pleased. His mind is too lazy to listen to the Praises of the Lord. ||3|| You do not see with your eyes - you are so blind! You shall have to leave all these false affairs. ||1||Pause|| Says Nanak, please forgive me, God. Have Mercy upon me, and bless me with the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy. ||4|| He alone obtains something, who becomes the dust under the feet of all. And he alone repeats the Naam, whom God causes to understand. ||1||Pause||2||8|| http://www.sikhitothemax.com/Page.asp?SourceID=G&PageNo=&ShabadID=2814&Format=2 2) What to do when we feel sleepy while doing banis after taking shower in amritvela ? Re-adjust your time to sleep earlier and wake up earlier. It will take time but you will get used to it. It just takes the body a little time to get adjusted. The one thing NOT to do is to compromise - make it your DUTY to get up at a designated time and DO NOT compromise it. That is the only way your body will adjust. Upon waking, only two things should be on your mind - Naam (Vaheguru gurmantar) and the duty to get up. Do not question/debate/discuss with yourself of whether to get up...JUST GET UP!!! That discussion/debate/question is the precise reason why many fail to wake up. Guru Gobind Singh Ji said: thudhh bin rog rajaaeeaa dhaa oudtan naag nivaasaa dhae hehinaa || Without you the use of rich blankets is like a disease for us and the comfort of the house is like living with snakes. http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=10002 This is the state that must be achieved, but to get to that stage will require discipline. (3) last but not the least , What are the advantages of waking up at Amritvela ? How it helps us physically and spiritually ? Japji Sahib: faer k agai rakheeai jith dhisai dharabaar || muha k bolan boleeai jith sun dhharae piaar || a(n)mrith vaelaa sach naao vaddiaaee veechaar || So what offering can we place before Him, by which we might see the Darbaar of His Court? What words can we speak to evoke His Love? In the Amrit Vaylaa, the ambrosial hours before dawn, chant the True Name, and contemplate His Glorious Greatness. http://www.sikhitothemax.com/Page.asp?SourceID=G&PageNo=&ShabadID=4&Format=2 Guru diya Khushiya kis tarah mil sakdiya ne ? ( how to get joys of guru ghar) ?? ma 4 || gur sathigur kaa jo sikh akhaaeae s bhalakae out(h) har naam dhhiaavai || oudham karae bhalakae parabhaathee eisanaan karae a(n)mrith sar naavai || oupadhaes guroo har har jap jaapai sabh kilavikh paap dhokh lehi jaavai || fir charrai dhivas gurabaanee gaavai behadhiaa out(h)adhiaa har naam dhhiaavai || jo saas giraas dhhiaaeae maeraa har har so gurasikh guroo man bhaavai || jis no dhaeiaal hovai maeraa suaamee this gurasikh guroo oupadhaes sunaavai || jan naanak dhhoorr ma(n)gai this gurasikh kee jo aap japai avareh naam japaavai ||2|| Fourth Mehla: One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name. Upon arising early in the morning, he is to bathe, and cleanse himself in the pool of nectar. Following the Instructions of the Guru, he is to chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. All sins, misdeeds and negativity shall be erased. Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani; whether sitting down or standing up, he is to meditate on the Lord's Name. One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind. That person, unto whom my Lord and Master is kind and compassionate - upon that GurSikh, the Guru's Teachings are bestowed. Servant Nanak begs for the dust of the feet of that GurSikh, who himself chants the Naam, and inspires others to chant it. ||2|| http://www.sikhitothemax.com/Page.asp?SourceID=G&PageNo=&ShabadID=1152&Format=2 How can we become a true Khalsa ( in very image of Guru Gobind Singh jee ) . So that Guru ji may say " Khalsa mero roop hai Khaas ". Khalsa is my special form. Read the above. Of course, being given Amrit is the entrance into the Khalsa Panth and a requirement.
  19. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Thanks, but that is in English...I need it in Punjabi. Thanks for trying though...at least I got to see the layout of this Seeq magazine...interesting.
  20. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Don't have one I can recommend, but know that Youtube has many...
  21. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Yes, you can use a rock, but make sure the rock is flat and consistent in grain - not different variations of rough - think like a cement sidewalk type of slab or rock. There is the possibility of gettingm emory cloth (used to sand metal/pipe ends), attaching it to a wood block and rubbing the Kirpan edge at a steady angle against that for sharpening. The only thing that concerns me with using some rock is if there are inconsistencies in the surface, it may end up damaging the edge, as well as how coarse the surface is (should not be too course, otherwise, rather than sharpening, it could damage the edge).
  22. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Some options for cleaning - wash thoroughly (some mild soap and water if there is any sort of oil or grease build up), dry thoroughly. If rusty, you can use a very fine grit - REALLY fine - if you don't mind a slightly dull satin finish. Steel wool or better yet, that green pad for cleaning dishes works well to remove surface rust. Deeper rust may require bench grinder, perhaps with a buffing wheel, and a lot of polishing. An alternative to manual sanding is using acidic solutions such as vinegar or lemon juice to remove rust , which you can dip your Kirpan into for a minute or two (MONITOR how it is doing by taking it out and inspecting it every minute or so, as acid eats away metal) - but keep in mind that keeping them in that solution too long may give it a patina - a protective grey/blackish coating which can prevent further rusting, but may not be visually pleasing to some. As for sharpening, buy a diamond hone - there are some which are a square brick that have four sides of different coarseness to remove different amounts of metal. Hold the Kirpan at a steady angle and pass it along diagonally so that all of the edge is passed over the hone. Repeat on the other sides of the hone (start from the coarser side if it is completely dull and work your way up to the finer sides. If it just needs a touch up, then just use the finer sides). If the Kirpan has no edge (dull as a butter knife), then again, a bench grinder on the edge could begin to give you an edge. You could use those Kitchen knife sharpeners (some are even on the back of electric can openers), but use them carefully, as you will have no real control over how the edge gets sharpened. Whatever you do, always try to oil the Kirpan before putting it back into the sheath to prevent rust. Sarbloh can rust VERY quickly, and steel is not exempt either. Try gheo or coconut oil if you can - other oils get rancid and start to smell quickly. Knives are usually oiled with stuff like mineral oil or gun barrel oil for protection, but this is an obvious issue because Kirpans are also used to do Bhog of langar and Karah Parshad. This is general advice regarding edged weapons. I am not sure how your specific Kirpan is made. Real weapons are forged, hardened at the edges and functional, which unfortunately, many Kirpans are not (some are literally stamped pieces of steel with no attention to the actual cutting edge whatsoever). Always, ALWAYS be very conservative with whatever option you are going to choose. Otherwise, you risk damage to the Kirpan that is not repairable.
  23. ms514

    Gurbani Or Shaster?

    VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Gurbani first. the Miri Piri swords of Guru Hargobind Sahib are still preserved and when measured, the Miri is 2 inches shorter than the Piri. This is significant as it shows that while worldly strength (Miri) is very important, spiritual strength (Piri) is more important, even if by a little.
  24. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Sangat Ji, I am looking for a Punjabi version of the 1699 Vaisakhi account by Abu Ul Turani. I know there was a PDF of it circulated a couple of years ago and would like to have it again...if it is not in PDF but some other format, that's fine, as long as it is in Punjabi. Thanks in advance!
  25. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਨ੍ਰਿਬਿਕਾਰ ਨ੍ਰਿਲੰਭ ॥ ਆਦਿ ਅਨੀਲ ਅਨਾਦਿ ਅਸੰਭ ॥ निरंकार न्रिबिकार न्रिल्मभ ॥ आदि अनील अनादि अस्मभ ॥ The Lord is Formless, Sinless and shelterless: He is the Primal Power, Blemishlless, Behinningless and Unborn; ਤਾਕਾ ਮੂੜ੍ਹ ਉਚਾਰਤ ਭੇਦਾ ॥ ਜਾਕੋ ਭੇਵ ਨ ਪਾਵਤ ਬੇਦਾ ॥੩੯੧॥ ताका मूड़्ह उचारत भेदा ॥ जाको भेव न पावत बेदा ॥३९१॥ The fool claims boastfully about the knowledge of His secrets, which even the Vedas do not know.391. ਤਾਕੌ ਕਰਿ ਪਾਹਨ ਅਨੁਮਾਨਤ ॥ ਮਹਾਂ ਮੂੜ੍ਹ ਕਛੁ ਭੇਦ ਨ ਜਾਨਤ ॥ ताकौ करि पाहन अनुमानत ॥ महां मूड़्ह कछु भेद न जानत ॥ The fool considers Him a stone, but the great fool does not know any secret; ਮਹਾਂਦੇਵ ਕੌ ਕਹਤ ਸਦਾ ਸ਼ਿਵ ॥ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਕਾ ਚੀਨਤ ਨਹਿ ਭਿਵ ॥੩੯੨॥ महांदेव कौ कहत सदा शिव ॥ निरंकार का चीनत नहि भिव ॥३९२॥ He calls Shiva "The Eternal Lord, "but he does not know the secret of the Formless Lord.392. ਆਪੁ ਆਪੁਨੀ ਬੁਧਿ ਹੈ ਜੇਤੀ ॥ ਬਰਨਤ ਭਿੰਨ ਭਿੰਨ ਤੁਹਿ ਤੇਤੀ ॥ आपु आपुनी बुधि है जेती ॥ बरनत भिंन भिंन तुहि तेती ॥ According to one;s won intellect, one describes Thee differently; ਤੁਮਰਾ ਲਖਾ ਨ ਜਾਇ ਪਸਾਰਾ ॥ ਕਿਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਸਜਾ ਪ੍ਰਥਮ ਸੰਸਾਰਾ ॥੩੯੩॥ तुमरा लखा न जाइ पसारा ॥ किह बिधि सजा प्रथम संसारा ॥३९३॥ The limits of Thy creation cannot be known and how the world was fashioned in the beginning?393. (www.sridasam.org) Hindi provided for your friend. The message from the verses states that many claim to know God - through claims of Vedic knowledge, through worshipping stones, through considering the One Almighty to be Mahadev (that devta who is also called Shiva). This passage describes how people who claim to know the Almighty are all subjecting the Almighty to their limited intrepretations, but in reality, the Almighty is much greater than their human intellect and knowledge. Then, you have Ganjnama by Bhai Nand Lal Sahib, which is in praise of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, that nails the coffin shut. While praising Guru Sahib, Bhai Nand Lal Ji writes: SAD HAZAARAAN SULS-O SUDS KHIDMAT GUZEEN V SAD HAZAARAAN RUBEH-O TISYA KHAAK NASHIN Lacs of gods and shastras have chosen to serve him (Guru Gobind Singh Ji); lacs of Vedas and heavens are under his command. SAD HAZAARAAN ASHR-O SULS-O SULSOON SITA-INDEH-E BARGAAHASH SAD HAZAARAAN EESHAR-O BRAHMAA V ARSH-O KURSI KHAHIND-EH-E PANAAHASH Lacs of gods and angels praise the splendor of his (Guru Gobind Singh Ji) palace; lacs of gods like ***Shiv*** and Brahama are wishing to be near his throne for protection. http://zafarnama.com/Download/ganjnama.pdf So no, Guru Sahib did not worship Shiva - it was the other way around. Same for Chandi/Durga. Those who claim that Guru Sahib worshipped Chandi to make the Khalsa should do well to remember that the same Durga was the red clothed woman who used to sweep Guru Nanak's Dharamshala and collect the Charan Dhoor of the Sadh Sangat and used that to bestow blessings upon those who worshipped her.
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