Ranjeet01

I am very surprised that someone of your political persuasion would read the Daily Mail. I was thinking you were a Guardian reader. I imagine you must be feeling absolutely gutted with Boris Johnson's victory in the election.

No matter what social background they belong to they are all crooks. They are all as bad as each other

Yes and No. They are not that backwards in certain ways not in others. The Jut community have more brains than other communities in certain things. What I have begun to realise is that there is more than one type of intelligence. We put too much emphasis on traditional academic learning. It does not suit everyone. The Jut is very much more hands on. The traditional Jut would probably more suited to an apprenticeship route. This is my opinion.

Punjabis does not lack the ability to be enterprising or innovative. They become very enterprising the moment they land on western shores. I am astounded where this ambition appears all of sudden. The environment in Punjab is not conducive to innovation. Everytime there is a new business set up and it become successful, Badal and Co gobble it up. People don't bother after that.

Yes. Being intellektual means you are boring. Keneda particularly promotes this. They love the Larping that goes along with the rural life.

Be mindful of quality educational institutions because it would encourage further exodus out of Punjab. It also depends on where you think educational institutions come from, what I mean by this whether it is public (government funded) or privately funded. There are plenty of privately funded colleges and universities. For example, there is Lovely University. This is privately funded. They have a huge campus built not far from Jalandhar. You cannot have these educatonal facilities without having the jobs to go with it.

When an animal dies, it will decompose and provide nutrients in the soil which the plant will feed off. We maybe eating plants that have fed off animals. Life consumes life in all it's forms.

Ecology can be complicated: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivorous_plant

It is the proliferation of Akhand paths, Sukhmani paths and other programmes for birthdays that has exacerbated this. People start to serve guests like at home rather than serving the sangat.

Can anyone explain why the Akal Takht in it's Rehat Maryada says something different. Are they wrong? If they are wrong does that mean we should not recognise them as an authority?

Parts of Africa were part of the Roman Empire but what people consider as Africa today isn't what was meant 2000 years ago. The Roman Empire first and foremost was a Mediterranean empire and the Roman Empire that stretched in Africa was along it's coast. That was considered Africa which came from Ifrique which is now modern Tunisia. What we consider to be Africa today is mostly what is subsaharan Africa. What we consider North Africa today would have been part of the Roman Empire. If you look at these North Africans they have largely an olive complexion like the Italians, Greeks, Spaniards etc. The North Africans are far more connected with the rest of the Mediterranean than the continent of Africa. If you have heard of Carthage and Hannibal you would know that they were based in Tunisia and ruled large swathes of Spain, Southern Italy, Sicily, Sardinia etc. The Carthaginians came from Phoenicians who are from the Eastern Med (today's Lebanon). Cleopatra the Egyptian Queen had an ancestory from Greece. What is now known as Rome is claimed to be founded by Trojans from Troy (in Western Turkey) and parts of Southern Italy and Sicily spoke Greek. All these people are interconnected. Taleb is a med man through and through.

It is a victim mentality. The reason it is a victim mentality is because we fail to look at where the real problem and that is with ourselves. Our people self-sabotage, we will cut our noses to spite our face. It's not as if this was not going on before the Brits came. Our ancestors have been conquered over and over again for more than 1000 years. The saying is, " Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!" The Brits are not the problem, it's us. We allowed this to happen to us.

Punjab gets pretty cold in the winter. It gets much foggier than the UK. They don't have heating over there and those marble floors don't help either. However, you are still guaranteed sunshine.

Yet people are leaving in their droves..

@BhForce Here is more stuff: https://medium.com/east-med-project-history-philology-and-genetics/something-is-broken-in-the-uk-intellectual-sphere-7efc9a1f154a

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/06/mary-beard-twitter-abuse-roman-britain-ethnic-diversity

The Punjabi men go back for about six months and then come back to UK for six months. That way they miss out on a lot of the nagging. That is why i think this topic regarding getting older Punjabi people to talk to younger Punjabis is futile. They already have their own families and their social networks. We are beginning to think like goreh as the goreh buddeh are really lonely and would welcome company from younger people.

I guess it is because they need to feel useful Their fear is that the young mum's may usurp them in the langar hall and they will have no use anywhere. Some of the "progressive " older generation will have other interests and hobbies so they would be less territorial in the gurdwara.

Sikh Punjabi version of Last of the Summer Wine.

That is old age for you. They are just grumpy.

What are your opinions on the killing of animals on the mass production of crops and the use of pesticides to kill critters?

Just let her know we don't do bake sales. ??

The Abrahamic viewpoint is very limited. They have a hard time understanding nuances and complexities.

Not personally, but I know of people who have tried. Apathy is a problem. I personally have no desire or wish to hang out with old timers except my own grandparents. I guess you can hang out with the bizurgs in the langar hall and listen in on all the gossip. It will much safer than hanging out with the bibian who will be on your case as to why you are still not married yet.

A lot of languages are like that. For example, the French speaking part of Canada called Quebec speak an old regional French dialect that was spoken in a part of France several hundred years ago. If you ask a modern French person from France, they will tell you that they cannot understand the Quebec language and when they hear some of the words, they call it "quaint" You hear the same thing with the Afrikaans language in South Africa with the modern Dutch language. Even English in the US use old words that have not been used in England for a couple hundred years. If there was a Punjabi colony that was separate from the subcontinent, you will find the same thing happening.