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  1. Been discussed several times on several threads..... stick to the topic instead of doing what you usually do & derail topics..... all posts so far have been about the topic at hand until you came along *edited* (change tact next time... you 2 are becoming transparent). No more replies to anything that is not within the topic from me
  2. Producing fire (brahm agani) from the bellybutton is a process called ‘tumo’. Rishis & saints etc who live high up in the mountains & survive in freezing temperatures also utilise this process, they emanate just enough heat from the bellybutton to keep thier body externally warm. Having certain yogic mastery over your body & the five elements allows you to do such things.... gurbani makes these things possible like child’s play. In the case of this guru da pyara mentioned in above katha, when the hukam came he unleashed the brahm agani to a high level, high enough to burn his body to ashes but nothing around him was touched by the fire at all.
  3. http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/01_Puratan_Katha/Sant_Jarnail_Singh_(Bhindran_wale)/41_Questions_with_Sant_Jarnail_Singh_Ji_Bhindrawalae/Sant.Jarnail.Singh.(Bhindra.wale)--41.Questions.with.Sant.Jarnail.Singh.Ji.Bhindrawalae.Part.01.mp3 listen to what Sant Jarnail Singh says about Banda Bahadur from 10:00 mins onwards. Sant Ji compares Banda to nirankari fake guru.... but I guess certain members on this site know better then Sant Ji! Mata Sundri Ji hukamnama, Sant Jarnail Singh, panth Prakash by Rattan Singh Bhangu, Giani Gian Singh & oral tradition of Budha Dal all say the same thing about Banda
  4. Maybe I should have been clearer regarding my comment about the wedding being null & void..... the point I was trying to make is that people seem to think that he has committed a big sin by marrying a non amritdhari..... which is not the case.... the forcing of amrit on women comes with the pressure of facial hair & even more recently wearing a dastar.... it was never meant to be that way. From what I can see I do not think the women in all those pics are wearing keski... rather the hair is tied in a high bunga style.... local women around Hazur Sahib still tie their hair up in this way & then wear a chunni on top. If I have hurt or offended the sentiments of ‘amritdhari females’ then I whole heartedly apologise.... that was not my intention.
  5. I take it as his wife has no beard & is not wearing a 5 ft dumalla this wedding is null & void...... I think everyone on this site knows my stance when it comes to women & khande di Pahul & gender roles etc Fans of women in bana with beards should go to Mata Sahib DEVA gurdwara in Hazur sahib & look at puratan pics of Mata Ji & look at these My intention is not to defend this jagmeet guy.... I don’t care who or what he does etc..... but the stupidity around women & amrit etc needs to be addressed
  6. This is very well put.... hits the nail on the head. There has to be genuine understanding & grounding in Sargun arths before advancement onto nirgun perspective.... the whole picture becomes even more beautiful when this happens. Unfortunately as you said, out of paranoia and lack of guidance by genuine vidvaans & sants most sikhs now jump straight on nirgun aspect & neglect the necessary ground work that comes from the sargun side.
  7. Ok.... please do kirpa on us all & give us the correct interpretation of Bhai gurdas Ji’s // below Vaar 1 Pauri 49 Waheguru mantar ਸਤਿਜੁਗਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਾਸਦੇਵ ਵਵਾ ਵਿਸਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ । satijugi satigur vaasadayv vavaa visanaa naamu japaavai| In Satyug, Visnu in the form of satigur Vasudev is said to have incarnated and ‘V’ Of Vahiguru reminds of Visnu. Line 1 ਦੁਆਪਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹਰੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਹਾਹਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ । duaapari satigur haree krisan haahaa hari hari naamu japaavai| The true Guru of dvapar is said to be Harikrsna and ‘H’ of Vahiguru reminds of Hari. Line 2 ਤੇਤੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਰਾਮ ਜੀ ਰਾਰਾ ਰਾਮ ਜਪੇ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ । taytay satigur raam jee raaraa raam japay sukhu paavai| In the the treta was Ram and ‘R’ of Vahiguru tells that rembering Ram will produce joy and happiness. Line 3 ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਗਗਾ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਲਾਵੈ । kalijugi naanak gur gobind gagaa gobind naamu alaavai| In kalijug, Gobind is in the form of Nanak and ‘G’ of Vahiguru gets Govind recited. Line 4 ਚਾਰੇ ਜਾਗੇ ਚਹੁ ਜੁਗੀ ਪੰਚਾਇਣ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਾਇ ਸਮਾਵੈ । chaaray jaagay chahu jugee panchaain vichi jaai samaavai| The recitations o f all the four ages subsume in Panchayan i.e. in the soul of the common man. Line 5 ਚਾਰੋ ਅਛਰ ਇਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਵਾਹਗੁਰੂ ਜਪੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਜਪਾਵੈ । chaaro achhar iku kari vaahaguroo japu mantr japaavai| When joining four letters Vahiguru is remembered Your level of understanding Dasam Bani is inadequate...... mahraj uses a literary approach known as ‘posht lushtika alankaar’..... it is obvious from what you have written that you are nowhere near the level required to understand Dasam Bani as a whole...
  8. The interpretation of Bhai gurdas vaar is not wrong.... your understanding of Dasam Bani is incomplete. that ‘chopei’ is from krishna avtar Bani... hence why mahraj mentions Vishnu but also Krishna. To renounce or ignore something (ganesh, Vishnu etc) in light of praising something else (in this case mahakaal) that does not mean the original is to be totally neglected..... if that was the case the whole of chaubis avtar Bani would be a waste of time. It has to be read with a different mindset & then taken as part of a whole picture that Dasam Bani paints, don’t make judgments based on 1 pangti.... every Bani has an unthanika.... it’s important to learn these. the reason Guru Gobind singh Ji does not even think about krishna & Vishnu despite them being satguru is simple.... they were satgurus of previous yugs.... mahraj is here as the messenger & guru in Kalyug... they will attach us to that which is the medicine in Kalyug... in this case Guru Nanak & vaheguru etc. Would you go to a retired doctor who uses old methods & out of date medicines or would you go to a current active doctor who has the latest & most effective medicine available? You have to remember nearly all the population at that time would have been followers of krishna, Rama etc... so mahraj in poetic form through gurbani had to change that mindset so that they could get people on the right treatment plan in Kalyug.... this does not change the fact that in previous yugs avtars of Vishnu were the satgurus of those yugs.
  9. Well done to these Singhs who did what they had to do & escaped any legal ramifications. If all Singhs who are actually willing to make a stand for values & maryada ended up in prison we’d be left with plastic sikhs like you who would run Sikhi into the ground with your liberal self appointed beliefs & protocols. Theres a time & place to give sacrifice.... this situation was not one of those.... try understanding raj neeti.... to accomplish your task & avoid any damage, injury or loss is the perfect outcome.... try reading Dasam Bani to understand how TRUE Singhs & warriors function.
  10. Nirgun parmeshvar has taken avtar as satguru in every yug.... our gurmantar reflects this according to Bhai gurdwara Ji Vaar 1 Pauri 49 Waheguru mantar ਸਤਿਜੁਗਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਾਸਦੇਵ ਵਵਾ ਵਿਸਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ । satijugi satigur vaasadayv vavaa visanaa naamu japaavai| In Satyug, Visnu in the form of satigur Vasudev is said to have incarnated and ‘V’ Of Vahiguru reminds of Visnu. Line 1 ਦੁਆਪਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹਰੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਹਾਹਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ । duaapari satigur haree krisan haahaa hari hari naamu japaavai| The true Guru of dvapar is said to be Harikrsna and ‘H’ of Vahiguru reminds of Hari. Line 2 ਤੇਤੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਰਾਮ ਜੀ ਰਾਰਾ ਰਾਮ ਜਪੇ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ । taytay satigur raam jee raaraa raam japay sukhu paavai| In the the treta was Ram and ‘R’ of Vahiguru tells that rembering Ram will produce joy and happiness. Line 3 ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਗਗਾ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਲਾਵੈ । kalijugi naanak gur gobind gagaa gobind naamu alaavai| In kalijug, Gobind is in the form of Nanak and ‘G’ of Vahiguru gets Govind recited. Line 4 ਚਾਰੇ ਜਾਗੇ ਚਹੁ ਜੁਗੀ ਪੰਚਾਇਣ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਾਇ ਸਮਾਵੈ । chaaray jaagay chahu jugee panchaain vichi jaai samaavai| The recitations o f all the four ages subsume in Panchayan i.e. in the soul of the common man. Line 5 ਚਾਰੋ ਅਛਰ ਇਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਵਾਹਗੁਰੂ ਜਪੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਜਪਾਵੈ । chaaro achhar iku kari vaahaguroo japu mantr japaavai| When joining four letters Vahiguru is remembered There are 6 different types of avtar of parmeshvar.... but not all are classed as satguru.... those that were are spoken about in above vaar by Bhai Gurdas Ji Nirgun parmeshvar is ever present & all pervading.... those who do aradhna of nirgun parmeshvar thier need for a physical guru is almost non existent because they have passed that stage..... it is their guru who instructs them to do advait saroop bhagti.... and the beauty is that when they realise nirgun parmeshvar they realise that their guru was nirgun parmeshvar in sargun form all along.... the 5 types of mukhti determines to what extent the veil of separation is lifted
  11. Vaar 1 Pauri 49 Waheguru mantar ਸਤਿਜੁਗਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਾਸਦੇਵ ਵਵਾ ਵਿਸਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ । satijugi satigur vaasadayv vavaa visanaa naamu japaavai| In Satyug, Visnu in the form of satigur Vasudev is said to have incarnated and ‘V’ Of Vahiguru reminds of Visnu. Line 1 ਦੁਆਪਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹਰੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਹਾਹਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ । duaapari satigur haree krisan haahaa hari hari naamu japaavai| The true Guru of dvapar is said to be Harikrsna and ‘H’ of Vahiguru reminds of Hari. Line 2 ਤੇਤੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਰਾਮ ਜੀ ਰਾਰਾ ਰਾਮ ਜਪੇ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ । taytay satigur raam jee raaraa raam japay sukhu paavai| In the the treta was Ram and ‘R’ of Vahiguru tells that rembering Ram will produce joy and happiness. Line 3 ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਗਗਾ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਲਾਵੈ । kalijugi naanak gur gobind gagaa gobind naamu alaavai| In kalijug, Gobind is in the form of Nanak and ‘G’ of Vahiguru gets Govind recited. Line 4 ਚਾਰੇ ਜਾਗੇ ਚਹੁ ਜੁਗੀ ਪੰਚਾਇਣ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਾਇ ਸਮਾਵੈ । chaaray jaagay chahu jugee panchaain vichi jaai samaavai| The recitations o f all the four ages subsume in Panchayan i.e. in the soul of the common man. Line 5 ਚਾਰੋ ਅਛਰ ਇਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਵਾਹਗੁਰੂ ਜਪੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਜਪਾਵੈ । chaaro achhar iku kari vaahaguroo japu mantr japaavai| When joining four letters Vahiguru is remembered, Shows how much you know....... let me guess..... Bhai Gurdas Ji was wrong?! Bachiittar natak is way too advanced for you to understand...
  12. So you want Nihangs to fight for people like you.... the same people who in 1920 supported the creation of SGPC & did nothing when the British adopted a shoot on site policy for any Nihang or Singh dressed in blue bana.... you... the same people who stood back and watched as Nihangs were forcefully removed from guru ghars across panjab & even refused langer... you the same sangat who watched Nihangs have to go into exile to Hazur Sahib & leave panjab....... now you people want Nihangs to fight & protect you?! Mahraj pulled his fauj back along time ago.... there’s even a Bachan in Bani that backs this up.... but I won’t be telling you what Bani or bachan that is 96 crore fauj WILL fight.... those who know, know when & why...... those who don’t call themselves ‘akalifauj’ but have nothing ‘akali’ about them. My offer still stands by the way..... I’ll pay for your flights etc to go to Hazur Sahib & run your mouth like you do on here.... and please tell the women in Hazur Sahib that they should be getting khanda da amrit.... I want to see how long it takes before 1 of them slaps the tatti off your face. We’ve been through this many times..... Hazur Sahib ain’t hard to find.... go there and ask the women what they think then tell them you believe they should take Khande di Pahul..... you will get all the answers you need. Sikhi in Hazur Sahib puts panjab to shame.... do the maths
  13. Yes, it comes from the word khalas. Terms such as singh, ram, har, Narayan etc all existed prior to Sikhi.... what’s your point? The term Khalsa did indeed exist before 1699 but in 1699 Guru mahraj named his fauj Khalsa.... it was previously known as Akal Sena at time of 6th Guru The Khalsa fauj rehit does not come from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.... understand who & what Guru Granth Sahib Ji is & you will start to understand why
  14. You don’t have to be amritdhari or in full bana to wear a kachhera...... on the flip side there are many ‘amritdharis’ who wear a kachhera but get upto all sorts of kanjarpuna. Adorning a kachhera without the knowledge of why jat sat is important is a waste of time & just an outwardly ritual. children need to be taught about the importance of jat sat & the importance of brahmacharya.... only then can the true purpose & value of a kachhera be appreciated..... I know of nanga sadhus who belonged to the udasi sampardai and they had complete control over jat sat.... much more then the majority of kachhera wearing amritdharis today. The kachhera is just a piece of cloth if you don’t have knowledge of jat sat..... just like a kirpan is a useless item unless you have knowledge of shaster vidya regarding the issues at your child’s school..... I personally would have my children wear kachhera type underwear but explain to them the importance of jat sat and explain how later on when they are older the kachhera will form part of thier bana
  15. I understand your sharda but this is not correct. Those gursikhs were all humans like us.... we have the same guru they had... we have the same Bani to read that they had.... there is nothing stopping us being exactly like them.... the only thing stopping us is us thinking we can’t be like them. When we start to want to be exactly like them then the panth will flourish.
  16. Nihang Singhs have a bola.... Bani bana phunk pechano...... singh Guru ka panchi jano...... notice how Bani comes before bana..... If your children start acting differently when they remove bana then it’s all just a show I’m afraid..... the real transformation & building of avastha has to be internal. i think it’s really good that your children look upto Singhs & want to wear bana etc..... but if it was my child I would use that to incentivise them to learn bani & start doing nitnem etc..... say to them, if you want to wear bana when you are slightly older you must learn Bani, do nitnem, learn shaster vidya & do seva. If they are true Khalsa souls they will do whatever it takes to wear that bana...... give it a try ps..... by nitnem I don’t mean the kids need to be reciting or listening to full nitnem 5 bania..... start them off on 5 mins waheguru jaap etc & definitely don’t force them to wake up at amritvela.... children need plenty of sleep & rest to help in growing etc
  17. Your question is flawed..... according to puratan granths transgender people are neither male or female... they are a separate gender in their own right. Your whole question is incorrect because you haven’t even understood what a transgender person is.
  18. No, they are not. The Khalsa is a BROTHERhood of warriors..... not a social club where wives, sisters & daughter etc can all come along.
  19. Further proof initiation into the Khalsa has been hijacked & turned into a joke..... when will you people realise the Khalsa is a fauj with rules & procedures!!!! Could someone just start wearing a police uniform or a British army uniform because they felt like it or started dressing their kids like that because the kids liked it??! No they couldn’t! To think there was a time when Nihang Singhs used to do 12 years of seva before being given full bana..... What a joke the panth has become when any tom <banned word filter activated> or Harry can adopt Khalsa roop at a whim
  20. Considering that ‘Khande di pahul’ was only ever given to men & intended for men only your question is null and void according to maryada of Budha Dal & Hazur Sahib where even women are not given ‘Khande di Pahul’ if you are a kusra and want amrit your better of trying 1 of the ‘modern’ man made jathas with man made maryada.... they give amrit to anyone
  21. When there is no duality there is nothing to ‘embrace’ or ‘detach’ from, whether it’s pain or pleasure.... there is simply ‘Sat Chit Anand’.
  22. This is not an official portrait..... it is the creation of giani thakur singh based on what he was told about what mata Ji looks like. The best place to get a pic of Mata is from Mata Ji’s actual asthaan...... Gurdwara Mata Sahib Deva in Hazur Sahib. They have an old portrait of Mata there & it looks nothing like this picture. Theres massive amounts of kirpa at Gurdwara Mata Sahib Deva..... I’m pretty certain the jathedar (currently baba Prem Singh) & other sevadars there would have a better idea of what Mata looks like based on personal darshan etc
  23. If your ‘human’ guru or the imposter gurus of the naamdharis really believe they are the jyot of Guru sahib then they should be able to sit on a tatti tavi like 5ve Patshah did..... ask your guru to do that.... let’s see what happens. anyone who propagates that Dasam Patshah faked his own death & gave gurgaddi to someone else in secret should have their tongue burn at the heat of a million suns...... any <banned word filter activated> dusht that says such things should be smashed out of existence
  24. I’m very aware of what mahraj said about the nature of men too, Bhai Chaupa Singhs rehitnama warns against certain types of men also. I want to make it clear that when I say there is no equality between men & women by no means do I mean that men are higher or better then women... that’s not the case at all. The fact is Akal Purekh created men & women differently with different roles & responsibilities to fulfil. The Khalsa is a fauj... the initiation in 1699 was for those men who were willing to join an army that would fight against our enemies.... and guess what?... a lot of ‘men’ chose not to join because they were not warriors... and that’s fine... not all men are built the same.... just like men & women ain’t the same. A woman has a massive responsibility... far more important then going on the battlefield... if all women went to battle & got shaheed or injured then who would give birth to & raise the next generation of sants, warriors, scholars and kings?! The development of a child is a massive seva, to ensure the child is educated about sikhi & sikh ithihas, taught good manners & morals, nourished with good quality food, kept clean & in good health, focus on education & schooling.... all these things are very very important. Since women in the West have been expected to go out to work etc or women who are ‘career minded’ look at the state society is in & the way it is heading..... each generation is getting worse and worse. As a man I would personally feel embarrassed if my sisters had to come on the battlefield & fight beside me.... what kind of men take the battlefield alongside thier sisters, daughters & mothers??!! People have this image of Dasam Patshah being this all lovey dovey being..... he was undoubtably the moorti of Prem but not how it is portrayed now.... but along side that he was a soorma, yodha, mahabali, maharathi, soorbir bahadur who would never allow his daughters to take to the battlefield. Mai Bhago was an exception.
  25. Read that rehitnama after reading Charitropakhyan and see what you find........ We have to apply bibek buddi..... whatever that rehitnama or Charitropakyan says about women do you think me, nihang singhs or anyone who accepts both think the same about mata?? The point of contention with your next point is did Mai Bhago ever get given Khande di Pahul and become Mata Bhag 'Kaur' as is spread now/...... mata jis final resting astan is not to far from Hazur Sahib, its on the way to Nanak chera sahib.... go ask the locals there I have a lot of time for you as I know you are genuinely trying to learn and have made the effort with Sarb Loh granth etc but Im not going to comment on the denial of Sach Khand comment.... I ain't got the time to get into that now and my posts have to be 'approved' first lol.... but in short ofcourse I dont think that women are not worthy of god... thats absurd
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