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key word was accidentely

bro what did Guru ji say about the nature of men too, or the whole thing went whoosh over your head , how many singhnian had to be rescued by guru pita ji from their own lust in real life that were noted in sakhian? Seems you read lopsided ....

that's what you get when you have corrupt 'brahmins' who wouldn't know Akal Purakh from a barn door running the whole show , apparentely the whole system is for their benefit, the worker castes make things, do the dirty work in the fields and elswhere, the kings amass the territories and riches , the soldiers protect it and the brahmins preach but yet do not contribute, eat yet do not honour effort, amass riches yet do no toil, point out enemies yet do not defend . What is their value ? JACK however if we are talking true brahmin according to Gurbani, then that would be a treasure indeed ...a person who heals the wounded hearts of the people , who motivate with divine inspiration , who sees Akaal Purakh in all , who is humble The poor are basically slaves , and slaves have no status in the eyes of the owners of the country's wealth , that's why their deaths in 2017 over demonetisation farce didn't even register in the news media...and will not matter in the case of cancer , drugs, crime etc etc

since when has sikhi been about forcing people ? the choice is free will as well keeping up rehit obviously failing has a n effect which Guru Pita ji also stipulates ...did not Bhai Chaupa Singh ji's rehitname also say it was wrong to deny khanda di pahul to women ? Bibi Sharan Kaur who did antim sanksar of vadde sahibzadey and gursikh veer shaheed at Chamkaur Sahib , was she wrong to take a sword in hand and do the sewa ... it was free will as was Mata Bhag Kaur 's descision to stand side by side with her bretheren . Kaurs are just as worthy ...do not make it about doubting a father's protective instinct , love runs both ways a child will also strive to live up to the example of the parent.

that is mahakaal96's line of thought too

that's some mental gymnastics there , the definition of guru implies diksha and then acceptance so what do they promise their dehdahri guru as opposed to Guru Granth Sahib/Akal Purakh?

gorey like India because they can reliver the raj experience they reckon ... also their money goes further but even so they take the mick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B87KDXSapwQ

utility companies say whatever makes them money ...

enough time to get converted ....

errr have you not been paying attention to sikhnet and its activities w.r.t brown sikhs ? they fleece brown sikhs daswand for their own yoga based programs and infernal anti-sikh propaganda and yet promote themselves as better than those same brown sikhs ....that's racism too. I love how they openly accept Yogi Bhajan's analysis of Dasmesh Pita ji's mistakes for giving sikhi to Punjabis and propagate an attitude of we will improve on Guru ji's sikhi with our liberal manmat ways ...

birds of a feather flock together ...

I read it literally and thought white marble instantly ...personally prefer the original brown-red brick ones humble and unassuming as a sikh should be, not flashy

because stupid brown ones are opening their own jaat paat based ones , so they are just copying the stupidity and making it their own, also it makes it easier to spread their own sikh drama international messages .

you cannot believe Dasmesh Pita ji then how are able to claim belief in the Jot of Guru Nanak Dev ji ? If you cannot obey Guru Nanak Dev ji's jot then how are you a sikh? Guru Nanak Dev ji said This is your Guru forever there will be no other dehdhari Guru literally and they choose another ...so on all levels they are being hypocrites

logically , men had greater freedoms in the world of that time ,I mean in the chauvanistic cesspool of the 15th century world women had zero power even in their homes, let alone being free to roam as driven by the divine will to deliver the message . It took Guru Nanak Dev ji to overturn that applecart of superstitious malevolence . Just because they were not Guru that doesn't mean Bebe Nanaki wasn't brahmgiani , even Guru Teg Bahadur honoured her by establishing Anandpur in her name Chak Nanaki. It was her ardas that paved the way , never forget that and she was the first sikh , although people think mistakenly that Bhai Mardana ji was the first . She lived in hukham her whole life and propagated sikhi from where she was , whilst doing the duty given to her by Guru ji of looking after his children and home affairs. I honestly think that people have decided to pick up the basket of stupid unenlightened superstitions of hindu mat that Guru Nanak Dev Gobind Singh ji knocked off our heads under the influence and onslaught of the majority faith and Christian mores which similarly condemn women from birth as agents of sin. To hear some speak they subscribe to brahmanical thought fully, that women have to be born as men before becoming brahmgian or moksh, Guru ji has shown this to be false many times and still does . If a women can become brahmgiani they are more than capable of earning the daat of amrit , there's only one amrit and has only been one replacement of charan pahul authorised , that is Khande di pahul anyone arguing with that needs to take it up with Guru Sahiban . To become a sikh one had to take charan pahul ...thus to become initiated into the sikh household one has to take pahul authorised by Guru ji . Prove that Guru ji said that there are two ... and I do not mean gurti because that is not valid in place of KHANDE DI PAHUL , you are still expected to take Khande di baata da pahul according to the same sources describing it's administration. For those who espose kirpan di amrit , do you really think Guru sahiban thought his daughters are weaker and thus incapable of doing full nitnem bania , to keep rehit etc then where's the difference between sikhi and the other faiths that condemn women before giving them a chance ? What about khande di pahul's requirement that both partners have to be fully rehitvaan gursikhs , if one is on a lesser requirement that immediately makes that a nonsense .

it is a named given by angrez if I remember correctly ...and reused by Indira

meaning is khalistan actually not a geographic location but hearts and minds of the people of those nations .... make the Khalsa pargat and everywhere becomes the land of the khalsa ...remember we have only our sovereign Lord above us no government

ancient bollywood watched as a teen

if you define it where Guru ji put his charan then that includes Russia, China, middle east , europe, turkey, saudi , sri lanka, tibet, leh , ladakh, afghanistan, some accounts say africa ....SO FAR that's most of the land mass

I seem to remember in 'sau din saas ke' the saas boils kirli in dudh to poison the troublesome nau rani....

just wish people had true faith in Guru ji not just what sant samaj and other guys want to promote...

The only reason why sodhi vansh become shaheedan da vansh was umaang of Mata BHani ji ...it was her sewa da phaal and sense of selflessness ... it was all the Matavan going down the line which brought those jot into human form as they were deemed more than worthy , try getting your bitterness adjusted ....Ang223 ਗਉੜੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ॥ गउड़ी महला १ ॥ Ga▫oṛī mėhlā 1. Gauree, First Mehl: ਦੂਜੀ ਮਾਇਆ ਜਗਤ ਚਿਤ ਵਾਸੁ ॥ दूजी माइआ जगत चित वासु ॥ Ḏūjī mā▫i▫ā jagaṯ cẖiṯ vās. The duality of Maya dwells in the consciousness of the people of the world. ਕਾਮ ਕ੍ਰੋਧ ਅਹੰਕਾਰ ਬਿਨਾਸੁ ॥੧॥ काम क्रोध अहंकार बिनासु ॥१॥ Kām kroḏẖ ahaʼnkār binās. ||1|| They are destroyed by sexual desire, anger and egotism. ||1|| ਦੂਜਾ ਕਉਣੁ ਕਹਾ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਈ ॥ दूजा कउणु कहा नही कोई ॥ Ḏūjā ka▫uṇ kahā nahī ko▫ī. Whom should I call the second, when there is only the One? ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਸੋਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ सभ महि एकु निरंजनु सोई ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ Sabẖ mėh ek niranjan so▫ī. ||1|| rahā▫o. The One Immaculate Lord is pervading among all. ||1||Pause|| ਦੂਜੀ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਆਖੈ ਦੋਇ ॥ दूजी दुरमति आखै दोइ ॥ Ḏūjī ḏurmaṯ ākẖai ḏo▫e. The dual-minded evil intellect speaks of a second. ਆਵੈ ਜਾਇ ਮਰਿ ਦੂਜਾ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥ आवै जाइ मरि दूजा होइ ॥२॥ Āvai jā▫e mar ḏūjā ho▫e. ||2|| One who harbors duality comes and goes and dies. ||2|| ਧਰਣਿ ਗਗਨ ਨਹ ਦੇਖਉ ਦੋਇ ॥ धरणि गगन नह देखउ दोइ ॥ Ḏẖaraṇ gagan nah ḏekẖ▫a▫u ḏo▫e. In the earth and in the sky, I do not see any second. ਨਾਰੀ ਪੁਰਖ ਸਬਾਈ ਲੋਇ ॥੩॥ नारी पुरख सबाई लोइ ॥३॥ Nārī purakẖ sabā▫ī lo▫e. ||3|| Among all the women and the men, His Light is shining. ||3|| ਰਵਿ ਸਸਿ ਦੇਖਉ ਦੀਪਕ ਉਜਿਆਲਾ ॥ रवि ससि देखउ दीपक उजिआला ॥ Rav sas ḏekẖ▫a▫u ḏīpak uji▫ālā. In the lamps of the sun and the moon, I see His Light. ਸਰਬ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮੁ ਬਾਲਾ ॥੪॥ सरब निरंतरि प्रीतमु बाला ॥४॥ Sarab niranṯar parīṯam bālā. ||4|| Dwelling among all is my ever-youthful Beloved. ||4|| ਕਰਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਇਆ ॥ करि किरपा मेरा चितु लाइआ ॥ Kar kirpā merā cẖiṯ lā▫i▫ā. In His Mercy, He attuned my consciousness to the Lord. ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮੋ ਕਉ ਏਕੁ ਬੁਝਾਇਆ ॥੫॥ सतिगुरि मो कउ एकु बुझाइआ ॥५॥ Saṯgur mo ka▫o ek bujẖā▫i▫ā. ||5|| The True Guru has led me to understand the One Lord. ||5|| ਏਕੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਜਾਤਾ ॥ एकु निरंजनु गुरमुखि जाता ॥ Ėk niranjan gurmukẖ jāṯā. The Gurmukh knows the One Immaculate Lord. ਦੂਜਾ ਮਾਰਿ ਸਬਦਿ ਪਛਾਤਾ ॥੬॥ दूजा मारि सबदि पछाता ॥६॥ Ḏūjā mār sabaḏ pacẖẖāṯā. ||6|| Subduing duality, one comes to realize the Word of the Shabad. ||6|| ਏਕੋ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਵਰਤੈ ਸਭ ਲੋਈ ॥ एको हुकमु वरतै सभ लोई ॥ Ėko hukam varṯai sabẖ lo▫ī. The Command of the One Lord prevails throughout all the worlds. ਏਕਸੁ ਤੇ ਸਭ ਓਪਤਿ ਹੋਈ ॥੭॥ एकसु ते सभ ओपति होई ॥७॥ Ėkas ṯe sabẖ opaṯ ho▫ī. ||7|| From the One, all have arisen. ||7|| ਰਾਹ ਦੋਵੈ ਖਸਮੁ ਏਕੋ ਜਾਣੁ ॥ राह दोवै खसमु एको जाणु ॥ Rāh ḏovai kẖasam eko jāṇ. There are two routes, but remember that their Lord and Master is only One. ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਪਛਾਣੁ ॥੮॥ गुर कै सबदि हुकमु पछाणु ॥८॥ Gur kai sabaḏ hukam pacẖẖāṇ. ||8|| Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, recognize the Hukam of the Lord's Command. ||8|| ਸਗਲ ਰੂਪ ਵਰਨ ਮਨ ਮਾਹੀ ॥ सगल रूप वरन मन माही ॥ Sagal rūp varan man māhī. He is contained in all forms, colors and minds. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਏਕੋ ਸਾਲਾਹੀ ॥੯॥੫॥ कहु नानक एको सालाही ॥९॥५॥ Kaho Nānak eko sālāhī. ||9||5|| Says Nanak, praise the One Lord. ||9||5|| also Sorath mahala1 ang 599 ਜੋ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਸੋ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ਕੋਈ ਜੀਉ ॥ जो अंतरि सो बाहरि देखहु अवरु न दूजा कोई जीउ ॥ Jo anṯar so bāhar ḏekẖhu avar na ḏūjā ko▫ī jī▫o. He is within - see Him outside as well; there is no one, other than Him. ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਏਕ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਮੋਈ ਜੀਉ ॥੨॥ गुरमुखि एक द्रिसटि करि देखहु घटि घटि जोति समोई जीउ ॥२॥ Gurmukẖ ek ḏarisat kar ḏekẖhu gẖat gẖat joṯ samo▫ī jī▫o. ||2|| As Gurmukh, look upon all with the single eye of equality; in each and every heart, the Divine Light is contained. ||2|| ਚਲਤੌ ਠਾਕਿ ਰਖਹੁ ਘਰਿ ਅਪਨੈ ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਇਹ ਮਤਿ ਹੋਈ ਜੀਉ ॥ चलतौ ठाकि रखहु घरि अपनै गुर मिलिऐ इह मति होई जीउ ॥ Cẖalṯou ṯẖāk rakẖahu gẖar apnai gur mili▫ai ih maṯ ho▫ī jī▫o. Restrain your fickle mind, and keep it steady within its own home; meeting the Guru, this understanding is obtained. ਦੇਖਿ ਅਦ੍ਰਿਸਟੁ ਰਹਉ ਬਿਸਮਾਦੀ ਦੁਖੁ ਬਿਸਰੈ ਸੁਖੁ ਹੋਈ ਜੀਉ ॥੩॥ देखि अद्रिसटु रहउ बिसमादी दुखु बिसरै सुखु होई जीउ ॥३॥ Ḏekẖ aḏrist raha▫o bismāḏī ḏukẖ bisrai sukẖ ho▫ī jī▫o. ||3|| Seeing the unseen Lord, you shall be amazed and delighted; forgetting your pain, you shall be at peace. ||3||

during the investigation phase of a crime no details are released to prevent the dismissing of evidence relied on, compromise the investigation or the case as a whole because of prejudice from coverage affecting jury . Most cases never come to press until after convinction , and the fact that sikhs are the least criminally inclined out of the minorities in the UK mean even less chance of being in press. Probably picked up on because of Carbomb phrase in court proceedings.

The only thing I can say from any experience I have, is that photo isn't real. the press here are very careful of falling foul of the law since they are already on blast for destroying evidence in an active case of murder of a teen ... why would it be so hard to believe it ? they bombed a gurdwara in Germany ...

I read the rule book that they produced when the protest happened , I know it's manmat that's why I think all sikhs should oppose it .