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This is not an answer. The atheist could just ask. God is great, so why couldn't he do it in one form or take no form and do it. When you write answers like these they only show how you have not understood the question.

Read the post above why your comparison was wrong. Others have spoke to it. Why are you assuming there are so many? There wasn't too many and there wasn't too less. God on the human for ten times as the Guru. Do you question why Mohammed your prophet had to speak with an angel before becoming "enlightened" Why couldn't he speak directly to God? I already explained there is one Guru, who took 10 human forms and is currently Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Your question is an atheist view point because it's no different than asking why only one God, why not more? Why not any? There is no absolute answer to this question because this is what God has ordained and it's either you accept it or follow the false Guru prophet Mohammed and continue to argue over questions that are fruitless. Which you muslims are notoriously known for. If you have concrete evidence to say there should have been less or more. We can continue, otherwise I am not going to waste my time on explaining something that doesn't need to be explained.

The comparison is wrong as others have said. Also Gurbani says there is only one Guru who is Akal Purakh himself. Maybe read Gurbani and your mind will not travel into atheist thinking.

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This guy will not admit his mistake. If it was just a Granth. Then Sri Guru Arjan Dev ji would not have carried adi Granth on his head. For this guy Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is a book of philosophy that he agrees with. So he will say page as Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji only holds value because according to him it's right.

This sounds like a personal attack on a person the AkJ recently kicked out by making a public announcement.

Come on now, it means the tomb he worships. The guy who is dead and buried at a 3ho burial site. The guy who draw the ling and worshipped it and got other gullible people to worship it. @Pallav2015 worships Shiva ling. For him it lives forever

Yup, your a yogi worshiper. Do you go to yogi bhajan tomb and worship with rest of the 3ho. Or are you worshipping him in top secret mode. Make sure the blinds are closed, smart tv is facing away from you and then you pull out his toe nails to bath in milk and feed them sweet indian food. I think he liked white women that he can force himself on. So maybe try that next time you worship him. you pull his picture out from under the bed sheets and coerce a white woman into your livingroom.

You have started a topic on this multiple times. So yes, you have an agenda. Can you tell me what is a fake Guru. Start off by naming your dera baba.

You are not mistaken, but there is something wrong with you.

Editing post? What are you smoking or sucking on!!!

This right here is a statement made without any evidence. It's one person talking out of his you know what. Credibility will only be assigned to such statements if they can provide evidence. Has he examined all saroops or know where all saroops are? No! Yet he makes a huge statement. This is the ego of a man. When you don't know, you get scared and may look unintelligent if you make statements of saying, I dont know. The correct statement would be, I dont know if we have an original saroop written by Guru Sahib or by a Gursikh scribe as Guru sahib says the Bani or a hand written saroop of the original saroop. But this much humanity and humility doesn't lie in these type of people. They like making stupid comments because their ego cant fall. Hes trying to cover his tracks. In doing so, he made a huge mistake.

It seems as you have an agenda here. But prove me wrong by answering one question. According to Gurbani is Satguru Ramdas ji satguru? Not a tricky question. Let's see how honest you are.

Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib ji did not stick his neck out for Hindus. He stuck his neck out because a group of people were being slaughtered because of their beliefs. That could have been any group, it just so happened at that time it was Kashmiri pandits. So, in the correct context, you have no point. Massaging a pandits legs will get you no points in God's book, but you will continue to do it because you are blind. I can just see your head spinning as you read the word "book". I wonder which way you will twist this word now. If my post about cow jhatka is read in context of previous post made by pro hindu posters, then it's well understood the comment was made to ignite a fire that challenges their ideas. A goat also gives milk to its offspring and humans for consumption. So why is it that the goat is allowed to be chopped up by some Sikhs for food? Are these people a disgrace? The goats blood is used in a ritual, while the cow is respected? Seems to me the pandit just didn't get his legs massaged from you, he gave you the house special. What about the people who close their eyes to how their veggies came to the market? Some poor person was exposed to chemicals over a long period of time and will get a illness that will eventually kill him. Is a cow's life more valuable than goats and a poor human? But you are God, you get to choose what you value and don't. The rules are made up as you are pulled and pushed by your pandit. Why use the word hate? I know because you're an emotional mess and that's your way of trying to label someone as bad. Well after reading the above post you will not be calling me bad, but more colorful swear words will be coming out of your mouth because your God and everyone else tells you what to do.

This is pure comedy. Singhs are lions in the aspect of fighting. If you look at who is the hunter in the lion family it is not the lion. The hunter is the lioness. Lions control their area and protect the family from attack. First learn why Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji called Singhs lions then apply the analogy.

The whole shabad doesn't need to be posted because its already understood in context. For everyone info, dolly is originally from an atheist forum that refers to themselves as sikh forum. So he is a atheist at heart pretending to be a Sikh. Bhagat kabir has laid out the context and said it perfectly.

Here bicep and child, I will repost the initial post of mine that gave both of you a nervous breakdown. Now the idea here is to read and read and read and read and read, well keep reading the post because you two are Larry and moe from the three stooges. Gotra were used in 10th Guru period to identify people. Rattan Singh bhangu makes this clear in his book. Its not due to the west. Only thing the west did was make people write it down on documents. Famously the Brar gotra is mentioned in rattan Singh bhangu book. And it's done to identify that group of people. It was already prevalent. In English it's called last name and in india its call gotra or clan or however they classified themselves distinctly from other people. The west again, just made them write it down. People not writing it down in india is irrelevant because some wanted to classify themselves as proper Sikhs so they dropped it on paper. Like the lap dog of Indian government balbir Singh jathedar of buddha dal. However they had a deep connection with the last name/gotra and were very proud. Guru Gobind Singh ji was Guru Gobind Rai before taking amrit. Rai identifies him to a specific clan. There was nothing wrong with the Guru keeping the last name/gotra/clan as Rai. The Guru didn't attach any spiritual or emotional value to it. It was simply there as a pointer. So disregard this child's ignorance. Hes talking out of his you know what.

Child, you have not learned. Every time you write a post directed at me. Keep in mind the fact you did not even understand the mean of ਕਰਿ in bhai gurdas ji Vaar. This right here tells everyone how intelligent you truly are. Now once again I will present how arrogant you are here. Gotra/clan/last name identify a person to a specific type of group from BIRTH. Now let's look at your comical comparison to license number and NHS number License numbers and NHS number dont specifically tell a person is part of a group from BIRTH. For this reason they can't be compared to how gotra/clan/ last name can identify the person to a specific group. Leave this forum man. You are making a complete mockery of doaba by vomiting your stupidity here. Do your clan a service and leave. Rest of his post was based on the above comical comparison that failed and was addressed in the first post. Child, dont make it so easy for me.

This guy is truly stupid as a dumbell. I write some people are not writing their last name because they are faking it but truly hold strong ties with their last name I, then give an example. But bicep is so retarded he can't see past his stupidity. That post could not be more clear and to the point. But bicep is having an episode of trigglypuff. So yes you are an inbred. You proved that here. I just stated the facts. Do you see how that works? I have never said use last names as a display of pride. I actually say the opposite. You are having a nervous break down because I present the facts that Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji used Sri Guru Gobind Rai before taking amrit. You have a problem with facts. Like a true sjw, you had a melt down when facts are presented. Present the evidence from a credible source that says Sikhs will use Singh and kaur as their surname. Bicep you asked no question. Try again.

Yes, you got me I'm jealous of people like you. You are so smart. Your name from today is bicep. I know you wont be able to figure out why your name is bicep but maybe one of your inbred family members will be able to tell you. Sikhs will continue to use last names. Biceps like you are in denial because you are the very people who act to be Sikh. I stated some facts and your underwear is all twisted up now. Go drop a couple more dumbbells on your head. Maybe the wires will reconnect correctly this time.

Gotra were used in 10th Guru period to identify people. Rattan Singh bhangu makes this clear in his book. Its not due to the west. Only thing the west did was make people write it down on documents. Famously the Brar gotra is mentioned in rattan Singh bhangu book. And it's done to identify that group of people. It was already prevalent. In English it's called last name and in india its call gotra or clan or however they classified themselves distinctly from other people. The west again, just made them write it down. People not writing it down in india is irrelevant because some wanted to classify themselves as proper Sikhs so they dropped it on paper. Like the lap dog of Indian government balbir Singh jathedar of buddha dal. However they had a deep connection with the last name/gotra and were very proud. Guru Gobind Singh ji was Guru Gobind Rai before taking amrit. Rai identifies him to a specific clan. There was nothing wrong with the Guru keeping the last name/gotra/clan as Rai. The Guru didn't attach any spiritual or emotional value to it. It was simply there as a pointer. So disregard this child's ignorance. Hes talking out of his you know what.

ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥ ਹੇ ਕਬੀਰ! ਜੇ ਲੋਕ ‘ਭਗਤਨ ਸੇਤੀ ਗੋਸਟੇ’ ਕਰ ਕੇ ਤੀਰਥ-ਜਾਤ੍ਰਾ ਵਰਤ-ਨੇਮ ਆਦਿਕ ਭੀ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ ਤੇ ਉਹ ਸ਼ਰਾਬੀ ਲੋਕ ਭੰਗ ਮੱਛੀ ਭੀ ਖਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ , Kabeer, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਕੀਏ ਤੇ ਸਭੈ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ॥੨੩੩॥ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਉਹ ਤੀਰਥ ਵਰਤ ਆਦਿਕ ਵਾਲੇ ਸਾਰੇ ਕਰਮ ਬਿਲਕੁਲ ਵਿਅਰਥ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ ।੨੩੩। - no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233|| SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI - 1377 SALOK KABEER JEE BHAGAT KABEER JI

You will be hated for making sense. The poster above you will now call you the F word in punjabi. Dolly101 cannot comprehend this type of deep thought.

Yes Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji went to mecca but he went to teach Gurmat. The reason for the Guru going to mecca is the most important part, so why leave it out? Leaving the reason out means you are purposely distorting history for your own views.