Akalifauj

Here we go again the secular-quasi religious fanatic cannot stop his propaganda. Zafarnama was written to a King who went back on his word and obviously this secular-quasi religious fanatic has not read zafarnama to even begin to understand it's context and reasoning. No one whether someone calls a person Sant or is a Sant can write like the Gurus. Zafarnama cannot be duplicated by anyone. Zafarnama was not a response to the warfare, but telling the Muslim King his mistake and what the Khalsa Panth is about. Zafarnama was telling the Muslim King you have not killed the Khalsa Panth. The Akali Fauj is stronger than ever and is coming for you. Zafarnama spoke of revenge.....the king cobra sit coiled up and is ready to strike.... These secular-quasi religious fanatics want to take the strength out of Sikhs and make them into passive, get slapped around and beg to the attacker for apology. Everything in this world is Hukam. Gurbani says nothing can take place without his Hukam. Chandu Shah being the mastermind behind the martyrdom of Sri Guru Arjun Dev ji is Hukam. Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji ordering the death of Chandu Shah is Hukam. World Trade Centers being blown up is Hukam. Sri Harmandir Sahib being attack every time is Hukam. Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji being burnt in the attacks is Hukam. Singhs killing Indira Gandhi is Hukam, Singhs killing Jagat Narain is Hukam. Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib ji being tortured and then beheaded is Hukam. So how do Sikhs know what is permitted and what is not permitted. We look at the Gurus teachings and act without any desire. What desire did Sant ji have when he gave the order to kill Jagat Narain. No desire to win or lose. He gave his warnings to Jagat Narain and he refused to stop. Jagat Narain was suppressing and insulting Sikhs and the Gurus with malicious intent and he received the death penalty. There was no desire to kill or have him die and there was no desire to keep him alive. There was only dharm in the act. Sant ji had no personal vendetta with Jagat Narain and neither did Taksal or the Khalsa Panth. This is context of Hukam. These secular-quasi religious fanatics cannot even understand what the "H" stands for in Hukam. These secular-quasi religious fanatics say it is alright to use the sword when 3HO women want to do kirtan at Sri Harmandir Sahib and praise Sant baba Nihal Singh ji for standing up with the sword. But it is not right for Bhai Amrik Singh ji Ajnala to punish those who do disrespect of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Instead they slander him by posting videos and favoring such videos named Khalistani Khaliban Taliban Sikhs. These secular-quasi religious fanatics have taken sides and when you take side you cannot even begin to understand what Hukam means. Sri Anand Sahib slaps this secular-quasi religious fanatics 600 times in the face by saying you cannot even rise above good and bad, how can you even understand the Guru is? These secular-quasi religious fanatics hate Singhs and they thirst for duality. These are the people who want to act holy and teach you about Sikhi? You are better off going to RSS camps to learn about Sikhi.

Here is an actual bully and coward from the Chardikala jatha, Jugat Guru Singh Khalsa. 3HO throw out Gursant Singh out of their event for filming their event and then the coward Jugat Guru Singh Khalsa boxes in Gursant Singh and starts to intimidate him. I am pretty sure the person who made the khaliban taliban titles for those videos is a regular member here, who I refer to as secular-quasi religious fanatic.

Sant Jarnail Singh Khalsa said burn the person alive whoever is Amritdhari and is drinking alcohol. Khaliban Taliban Sikh is nothing because they would be calling Sant ji worse now. These guys who make up these names are sucking the blood of Sikhs from the inside. They need to be exposed to the whole Khalsa Panth. Here is the video, forward it to 17:15

I agree, these 3HO freaks have taken over the Gurus uniform, but they don't have an iota in them of the Guru's teachings. They add Khalsa to their name, but they take on the yogi lifestyle, which is rejected by Gurbani. There could not be any worse con-artist than the 3HO cult.

In this video the 3HO follower and teacher instruct people how to do simran and why. In the video she instructs how to do it: 1) hold a mudra with your hands (Gurbani outright says mudras hold no value in any type of simran) 2) turn your head side to side as you repeat Vaheguru (Nope, Gurbani doesn't accept this lunatic practice either) 3) Vaheguru meditation can be done from 11 to 31 minutes (Which fool from 3HO made up this rule of Vaheguru simran can be done from 11 to 31 minutes. Not one puratan Rehat says it. Gurbani says do it 24/7 or however long a person can keep themselves absorbed on Vaheguru's name and keep trying till the true Anhad sounds of Vaheguru simran keeps going on 24/7. I mention Anhad sound because this 3HO cult even has a large bell they ring and refer to it as Anhad sound/vibration. 4) Any Kundalini practice starts with bringing hands to the center of the chest and tuning in with yourself (Again focusing on the mudras as her kundalini rapist teacher Yogi Bhajan instructed the 3HO and not on Gurbani. Gurbani says to repeat his name whether standing, sitting or lying down.) bhagouthee mudhraa man mohiaa maaeiaa ||1|| rehaao || The sacred mudras - ritualistic hand gestures - are made, but the mind remains enticed by Maya. ||1||Pause|| ang 1348 Bhai Gurdas ji Vaar's on yoga postures: khaechar bhoochar chaacharee ounaman la(n)gh agochar baanaa|| Getting above of the khechar, bhuchar, chachar, unman and agochar (all Yogic postures) mudras he concentrates upon the One Lord. Gurmukhs and Gurbani says do not waste your time with these useless practices and 3HO are driving people, including a lot of punjabis into what the Gurus pulled us out of in the first place.

Why close it? Instead kick out the posters who take the discusion off track.

As i said before i won't get into it here. Read the Bani Bachittar Natak. If you are really interested start a new topic on it.

Did you know Jesus was counted as one of the prophet/messenger sent by God who was unable to teach Truth? I won't get into it, but please read Gurbani before making these outrageous statements. Guru Granth Sahib teaches only the Guru can take anyone to the Truth and the writings of the 10th Guru support this reality by exploring why the previous sent prophets/messengers failed in teaching the Truth. When a person reads the hard fact of science. No one says you are reading the hard facts of Jesus science or Muhammed science. Although, when theories come into the picture, there are precise names attached to these theories to distinguish them from the hard science, which is owned by no one. The Gurus say the previous theories of obtaining the truth are only theories and hold no real substance. The Gurus came to give the hard facts of religion and called it Sikhi. If a person started to doubt whether the world was flat and came to you for some guidance. Would you tell the person who taught them the teaching is telling them the truth? It would be misleading and do them or anyone else any good. They won't have a break down and go into depression if you told them the world was round. They are searching for the truth and don't need to be fed fluffy teddy bear stories.

When I wrote my post I knew you were talking about punjabis. Thank you for clarifying it, but the post I wrote still holds true, sorry to say. Who is "we"? We are Sikhs and it stops here. There are no sides to this discussion. Here i will be very blunt this time. Say you (a Punjabi) were walking down the street and a punjabi next to you see's a black person and deliberately says......"yoo f*kin n*gger", loud enough for the black guy to hear. Both of you are punjabi. Would you stand shoulder to shoulder with this other punjabi, who was being a racist and say "our side....let's get this n*gger"? No! because you are not a racist and you don't want your face to be curb stomped and go on a quick ride to the hospital in an ambulance. In the same way, when you say "our side" commits beadbi of so and so you are attributing those act to yourself and taking responsibility for them? Stop saying our side or what we do or any other phrase which will associate you with something you are not. It makes punjabis look very uneducated to fall for these traps by secular-quasi religious people.

Beadbi by Sikhs from a Punjab background is always discussed on this forum, but never have these secular-quasi religious people come around to say stop barking at the brown side. Look at the beadbi the 3HO are doing of Sikhi. The reverse only happens when forum members want to discuss the beadbi being done by 3HO and it's followers. They purposely drag punjabis mistakes into the discussion to distract the d*mb forum members away from the topic of 3HO committing beadbi. And guess what!!!! It works on the d*mb punjabis all the time. Wake up punjabis,

What sides? Do you see a line drawn by Sikhi between the brown and white Sikhs? This illusion has been created by the malicious secular-quasi religious people in Sikhi to divide and conquer. I know you or anyone else won't like what I say next, but it has to be said. Punjabis are very d*mb. I mean they are d*mb with a capital D. You are a Sikh, so why are you defining yourself as a certain race? You don't want to be defined as a daughter killer, caste supremacist, alcoholic, pakandi sant follower. yet you turn around and say The beadbi on our side is just the same, as beadbi is beadbi. By saying our (brown) side is committing beadbi you are saying I am the daughter killer, caste supremacist, alcoholic, pakandi sant follower. Think back to when Hindus and Muslims were joining the Khalsa Panth. Did the Guru give them one side each. One is light brown (Muslims) and other is dark brown (Hindus). :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: Wake up d*mb punjabis, you are being played as fools by the secular-quasi religious people on this forum.

The thread is about 3HO beadbi and it is purposely being diverted by this poster. I believe this poster knows exactly how different the practice of dancing and mudras and yogic postures are to repeating Vaheguru's name on every breath. But chooses to dilute the Guru approved method of repeating Vaheguru's name(Bani) on every breath to justify the NOT approved methods by the Guru of mudras, dancing, breath control, and yogic postures. What Bhai Randhir Singh ji is speaking about here is not breathing in and out through different holes of the nose and mouth to control the mind as 3HO instruct and implement. 3HO believe by breath control they can attain mukhti and mind control. Bhai Sahib is saying with a normal breath, with your tongue, mind, and inner conciousness a person can repeat Vaheguru's name. 3HO do not do Saas Sass giraas simran. They stick one finger in one nostril and then release the breath in the other nostril. Then do the other nostril while holding some kind of mudra in the free hand. Saas Sass giraas simran is done where a person can be sitting, standing, walking, running, etc through the normal breath a person is focused on Vaheguru's name. 3HO have competitions who can hold the breath the longest and who can drain the most oxygen out of the body. What do they call it...rapid fire or something more ridiculous. Only a malicious person would equate Bhai Sahib's words to what 3HO are doing and were taught by the rapist Yogi Bhajan. Only a malicious person would deliberately say pranasakhti means breath control. The Sakhti (power) behind the prana (breath) is not the breath. :stupidme: In public these malicious people never speak up when 3HO is discussed.

So young and innocent.

Personal attack on Tohra, Badal, and Talwandi. They are not Sikhs, said by Puratan Kathavachak Sant Gaini Baba Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa.

A good time according to who.....lmao. you hang on, who can't process a simple sentence and when trying to gets confused and repeats the same stupid mistake which even a generalized blondie would have picked up on without saying.....uummmm, so like, you are totally saying...hehehehehe i get it know......sooooo stupid......

In what way is "Fateh" representing Sikhs? Is this guy the role model you want for the Sikh kids going to school and idolizing? Watch the video. If you want sit your daughter next to you and teach her, who to idolize. Listen to the lyrics in this one. B*tches see me and they be hoping....thats them I be poking...haaaa........... done back in 2012 or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGxv6ARyP5U

According to who? You? Your idea of letting go and having a good time is different than others. So why you judging others?

You are a bully. No matter what is presented. Even if vaheguru comes in a human form to directly repeat the shabad you quoted in isolation, you will not accept the truth of Gurbani. Learn to be content with Gurbani.

Give it to me!!! :lol2: Open up scholarships and bursaries. There are a lot of students who want to attend college or university, but cannot because they don't have the financial support. If you choose too, make sure to advertise the bursaries or scholarships at the local high schools. Many of the students who need them don't get them because they don't even know they exist. You can dish out easy 1g to 20g's out in this manner. Invest in young children and the youth. Think about all the kids you went to school with and how some of them would have turned out, if their parents had just enough cash to send them to a university or college. And if you really have some serious coin lying around, help fund a music or language program in a school. Long term plans. Open a Gurbani learning center for all ages. Set up classes, obtain learned teachers, material, etc. Get involved in the community and you will start seeing where your money can help build the community you live in a better place for the less fortunate. Rich folks forget how rich they are when they start helping out the poor. The rich will run out of money, but the world will not run out of poor people.

I would really like to know what his reasoning is behind the Calendar issue. He should be interviewed and be asked for a full disclosure. All these statements by him just make him sound like a uneducated individual. To be honest he somewhat sounds like Darshan Ragi just before he was excommunicated and after he was excommunicated.

What do people have against shastar and hair? They go to great lengths to make up fairy tales and harass Sikhs with these fake stories. These secular-quasi-religious fanatics have never seen a battlefield ( or been in a similar situation) or have never been part of a disciplined order. Bhai Kanhaiya ji, without any doubt had a shastar on him. Bhai Kanhaiya ji was asked to fight the Muslims and Hindus in war by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji, but to this request, Bhai Kanhaiya ji said I would like the seva of helping the wounded. The story told today does not tell us where Bhai Kanhaiya ji was when the war was taking place. Anyone who knows anything about war or has been in a battle will know, you cannot walk on to the battlefield and start helping the wounded when there is a battle happening right next to your ear. Guru Sahib gave the permission to Bhai Kanhaiya ji before the war started to help the wounded. When the battle was in the 'control' of Guru Sahib's army, bhai Sahib went out to help the wounded and this is where we hear Bhai kanhaiya ji telling Guru Sahib why he helps both sides. No one is safe without a weapon on the battlefield. And in such big wars the battle is never over. For Bhai Sahib there was SIkh soldiers armed to the teeth with weapons around him and Bhai Sahib also carried a shastar in the event of being attacked. Bhai Kanhaiya ji with the Guru's dastar and uncut beard and hair approaches a Muslim who just fought Bhai Kanhaiya ji's brothers will not try to attack him or feel sacred and attempt an act of desperation? No fairy tales please. Bhai Kanhaiya ji for all the Muslim knows could be coiming back to finish the job off. Sikh history is always being rewritten to fit some cult or babas thinking. Take the world today around us. Red cross is being attacked by Muslims in the battlefield. What makes you think a much stronger, courageous, and ruthless Muslim will not attack Bhai Kanhaiya ji. Muslims have pride of dying in the battlefield and meeting Allah. Don't be naive to believe Muslims are weak.

Bhai Sahib without any doubt made a commitment of I will die trying to release the Sikhs from prison. People are playing with words to play with Sikhs emotions and again rob them of Sikh teachings. If I make a video today saying I will do 40 push ups with one hand. This means I will do this or I have broken my commitment with myself. Bhai Sahib broke his commitment he made with Guru Sahib. It is plain and simple. Again tricks are being played on Sikhs to make certain words have ambiguous meanings. This will blur the lines and drop Sikhs further into hell. If Bhai Sahib only made a request and it was on Vaheguru to fullfill it. Then say with your mouth Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji was an oppressor to make the 40 Sikh soldiers who walked off the battlefield and he manipulated these 40 souls to come back and fight for him. Why did Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji forgive them of something Akal Purakh didn't let them do. Akal Purakh should be in trouble with Guru Sahib and not the poor 40 souls who did what Vaheguru told them and then left when Vaheguru told them too. These secular-quasi-religious fanatics will never quit trying to rob Sikhs of Sikhi. Those who commit one of the four kurhits have to come before Guru Sahib and Punj Pyare to apologize and receive punishment for breaking away from their ardas/commitment. These Sikhs could just say, I made an ardas before you to follow the instructions as an Amritdhari, but only Akal Purakh gave me two months of strength to uphold the rehat. Blame Akal Purakh for not blessing me with more strength. Punish the Creator for my mistakes. These people are corrupt themselves and they want to breed more corrupt people like them.

Bhai Sahib go to what Gurbani says. I provided you with Gurbani quote directly from ang 1136 of Bhagat Kabir ji saying he is not a Hindu or Muslim. Anyone can say anything in this world, but we are talking about what is correct to say by looking at the truth said by Gurbani. Tomorrow I can say there is no gravity on earth and you will say what is this id*ot talking about. Why doesn't this id*ot go on top of a building and jump off to see if there is gravity. When he comes crashing down and breaks couple of bones then he will come to realize what gravity is. Similarly, when a person, whether a Sikh or a Sikh preacher says Bhagat Kabir ji is a Muslim, he is the fool for going against Gurbani. Look at Bhagat Naamdev ji's Bani to see who he was. Make another thread on Bhagat Naamdev ji and we can start contemplating over his Shabads. Leave the Sikh preachers in the past. The ones who know Gurbani, grasp their feet and ask them to directly teach from Gurbani. Others, plug your ears with your fingers and keep on walking.

For learning sake, I took out a few minutes of my time and transcribed all of what Jugraj Singh said in the video from where the question is posed. Now let's answer your doubt. So obviously not, we are not following a path of with Islam with Sikhi tact on. It’s following a path of Sikhi with TEACHINGS OF OTHER RELIGIONS PUT ON (2 mins in the video). These are his exact words. Don't shoot the messenger. Also Muslims do not have authority to decide who is a Muslim. This guy is playing games here. Ask him if Sikhs decide who is a Sikh. He would go off and start laughing at you as if you are stupid and he is some kind of Brahmgyani. Muslim is defined by the Quran, Haidith and other sacred scriptures of Islam. Yet he lies to the sangat and says: Kabir ji is referenced in Bani being a Muslim, but he criticizes Islam a lot (2:12 minutes in he finishing say it). Find me one reference that says Kabir ji is a Muslim by the standard of the Islam sacred scriptures. In fact here is Bhagat Kabir ji saying I am not a muslim in Gurbani. ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥ I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim. ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥ My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4|| ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥ Says Kabeer, this is what I say: ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥ meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3|| ang 1136 Dr. Zakir Naik answers question in a similar manner, when he does not have an answer to a question. Obviously this guy was caught off gaurd when asked this complex question. Instead of admitting it and then people go, he doesn't have the knowledge. Like Dr. Zakir Naik, he starts making things up as he goes to save his brand name of BasicsofSikhi. Why learn from these guys or anyone else including me. I just presented you Gurbani of Bhagat Kabir ji and learn from this Bani. Learn from the first ang of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji to the last ang. Pick one ang a day or more and see how much you learn and re-learn, when Gurbani provide you with more information.

You will be attacked by the secular-religious fanatics for uttering the words of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji.