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  1. Sikhs do crime too. Check out the number of Sikhs in Birmingham's major prison, then compare it to the number of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in there. Then compare those stats to those group's share of Birmingham's population as a whole. You may be in for a shock.. https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmiprisons/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/06/Birmingham-Web-2017.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Birmingham
  2. ‘One of the local Pakistani women’s group described how Pakistani-heritage girls targeted by taxi drivers and on occasion by older men lying in wait outside school gates at dinner times and after school. They also cited cases in Rotherham where Pakistani landlords had befriended Pakistani women and girls in their own for purposes of sex, then passed on their names to other men who had then contacted them for sex. The women and girls feared reporting such incidents to the Police because it would affect their future marriage prospects’ http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham There was an extensive report released a few years ago on Muslim girls being groomed: http://www.mwnuk.co.uk/go_files/resources/UnheardVoices.pdf
  3. Why do you think there are many more sexual predators belonging to the Sikh community than say, the Hindu one?
  4. Nigerians and Indonesians converted due to traders, not forced conversions.
  5. Statistically Sikhs are just as likely to clump together as Pakistanis are http://www.ethnicity.ac.uk/medialibrary/briefingsupdated/more-segregation-or-more-mixing.pdf
  6. There's always been more Indians than Pakistanis in the UK. You probably assume that all Asian Muslims in the UK are Pakistani, when lots are in fact Bengali or Guji Muslim
  7. 0.06% of British Hindus are in prison compared to 0.18% of British Sikhs, according to this http://www.mcb.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/MCBCensusReport_2015.pdf page 42 Your right, that seems unjustifiable. Maybe you could try looking up the prison stats in Punjab and see what the most common types of arrests are.
  8. Even Sikhs in the UK are 3-4 more times more likely to go to prison than Hindus in the UK.
  9. That has nothing to do with religious extremism though. Yes they're more likely drop out of school, become criminals, "groomers", etc, but they're still less likely to become extremists because many of them are Barelwis.
  10. Lol dude I never said or indicated Mirpuris are all peaceful and law abiding. Yes they're more likely to be violent thugs and criminals (because of their background) than other Asian Muslims, but it tends to be the less religious ones amongst them that are like that and they're still less likely to produce Islamic extremists. There's a big difference between being a criminal and an Islamic extremist you know. There's barely any religious extremism in Mirpur since most Sunnis there are Barelwi. I'm pretty sure most people from the UK don't go to training camps in AJK, they've traditionally gone to FATA to do that kind of thing. 'Mirpuris are sufis because they are peaceful' Did I even say that? Many (maybe most) Mirpuris in the UK follow the Brelwi school of thought which is heavily influenced by Sufism, this is indisputable. The ones in the UK from Central Punjab are mostly Deobandis, as are most Bengalis and Guji Muslims in the UK. These three groups are much less likely to become violent criminals than Mirpuris, they're also more likely to be well educated and disciplined, but they're also more likely to become extremists. If you watch the enws, most of these people going to Syria are educated people at university, they aren't drug dealers from Manningham. If you go to an area like Blackburn which as a large population of Mirpuris and Gujarait Muslims, it's common for the Gujis there to stereotype the Pakistanis there as 'Grave-worshipping Barelwis' because the Gujaratis are very strict Deobandis. In the Punjab and AJK region, the educated ones in the urban areas are more likely to be Deobandis and the ones in the rural areas (e.g. where Mirpuris come from) tend to be Barelwis. That link doesnt work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism Sufi orders are largely Sunni and follow one of the four schools of Sunni Islam and maintain a Sunni Aqidah or creed.[6] Over the years various Sufi orders have been influenced by and adopted into various Shi'ite movements includingIsmailism- which led to the Safaviyya order's conversion to Shi'ite Islam and the spread of Twelver Shi'ism throughout Persia.
  11. Most Sufis in the world are Sunni, and a minority are Shia. It isn't an independent sect you know. It doesn't even have a set definition. A high percentage of British Pakistanis (especially 'Mirpuris') follow the Barelwi school of thought, which is very heavily Sufi influenced. This is why Mirpuris are actually significantly under-represented amongst Islamic extremists coming from the UK, (if you think about it, you barely ever hear about an extremist coming from Bradford). Most of the British Asian extremists that you hear about on the news that have gone to Syria are Bengali, and there are even a few Gujaratis that have gone, like that kid from Dewsbury who recently blew himself up. The remaining Sunni British Pakistanis tend to follow the Deobandi school of thought, which I think is what almost all the Guji Muslims and Bengalis in the UK follow.
  12. No. Read this http://www.mwnuk.co.uk/go_files/resources/UnheardVoices.pdf Page 80 onwards.
  13. They were Gujarati (Hindu and Muslim) and Afghan http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23896937
  14. How is that 'naive'? Some Ahmadis visited a Sikh Gurdwara and now some Sikhs are visiting an Ahmadi mosque. What's the problem exactly?
  15. Ever had a look at your own community dude? Welcome to the Slums of Southall: How unscrupulous landlords have illegally built squalid back garden homes for immigrants Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049676/Welcome-Slums-Southall-How-unscrupulous-landlords-illegally-built-squalid-homes-immigrants.html#ixzz3SWTAideL http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/local-news/tory-councillors-outrageous-southall-slur-5978511 Sikhs are the second most segregated religious community, after Jews. http://www.ethnicity.ac.uk/medialibrary/briefingsupdated/more-segregation-or-more-mixing.pdf Also, lol @ thinking Pakistani and Romanian immigrants "account for a disproportionately shocking amount of crime"..not compared to other immigrants http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2867783/12-000-Size-army-foreign-criminals-living-Britain-today-including-700-murderers-500-rapists.html
  16. Do you have any evidence that he's Pakistani Punjabi? Mirpuris also have the surname Virk as there are lots of Jatts amongst them. You also get Sikhs and Hindus involved in this, too, btw: I could point out that East Punjab has a much bigger gang rape and female infanticide problem than West Punjab, and then say "What's the difference? It's the religion" but I won't because that's just stupid. British Mirpuris are a quite messed up community yes, but not British Pakistanis as a whole. There's a huge difference between Mirpuris and people who come from Central Punjab, Karachi etc. If you did your research you'll actually find that Mirpuris are severely looked down at by other British Pakistani communities: Look at these links (It's a Mirpuri run website) http://www.portmir.org.uk/pages/sample-1---trash-attacks.html http://www.portmir.org.uk/pages/sample-2---trash-attacks-2.html http://www.portmir.org.uk/pages/sample-3---trash-attacks-2.html Also, the notion that they don't target their own Muslim girls has been disproven. Read this: http://www.mwnuk.co.uk/go_files/resources/UnheardVoices.pdf You'll actually find they find it easier to target their own girls because of the notion of 'honour' etc where girls keep silent. It's nothing to do with targeting girls from other religions since they do it to their own as well.
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