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I don't really get why people whine and complain about the Sampooran Reharas Sahib being "too long", I've done both Taksali and the Nihung Singh ones and they take me 15-20 minutes respectively. That's hardly any time at all, imo we should strive to the Sampooran one end off. There's no reason on why it should be shortened, if anything from what I heard and read the shortened one was done purely for blasphemous reasons. They were edited due to people having an allergic reaction to certain words. Guru's bani is Guru's bani. The same brigade who insist upon the shortened version are the ones who think its fine doing the first 5 and the last pauri of Anand Sahib.

So true. Travelled with BA as well. Never had any problems from the Gorey, international or domestic in fact. Ironically the most inconvenienced iv been is at the hands of so called apney who seem to have a stick up their proverbial a$$es.

None. There's wisdom in all the traditional ones. So learn from them all and dont be sheep.

Good looks? lmao. I think OP has an inferiority complex here.

Well what do you expect from this guy? He's a "doctor" but has the intelligence of a small ape. Which is ironic as he doesn't believe in evolution.

Simply beautiful, The whole procedure is amazing and I've been doing the Nihang Singh's Arti for a while now, the input of Dasam Pita's bani is just amazing.

Swear down his views seem to change more than Trump's which is saying something as he frequently changes his mind.

Its not just him. One of the most ridiculous notions peddled by the left is that ALL of the far right are idiots who can't tell the difference. The reality is something completely different. People like Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos, both of whom have a respectable number of followers remind people of this whenever there is an attack as the media paints us with the same brush as the terrorists. Most of the big Right wing "preachers" i guess is an accurate term, know the difference and tend to cite it always.

that's really true. I grew up with a bunch of kids who were pretty westernized, hair cut, didn't even know the names of the 10 Gurus let alone anything else. Fast forward about 5-6 years they're all in Sikhi saroop, can do Nitnem and are pretty good guys.

its all too easy to make stuff like that. Breaking them and doing all sorts of evil shenanigans is always a chance, atleast with Sevadars you can control who has access to the food.

We're going to get robotic Gyanis soon guys. Brace yourself. But yeah I do fear AI are a huge threat to us, it also doesn't help as it turns us all really lazy.

Yeah it probably was OP. I'm sure the MODs can confirm this?

the guy trying to crowd surf though at 50 seconds. I died.

The man is a moron. His knowledge of other scriptures is about as good as the average keyboard warrior. Have you seen his videos about science, he claims to be a doctor (or has a doctorate) but makes mistakes a 12 year old wouldn't (incorrectly defining theory for example) most of the Muslim Preachers hate him as he brings about bad press and makes them all look like a bunch of idiots.

seems like a stunt.

What works for me is constantly being amused. I treat everything like a joke and just make it hard for them to get to me, The incident I mentioned above is the only incident of where I had problems. I think OP needs to quit being such a baby. BTW bro your name has a weird irony considering how OP reacted to his situation.

Really running from it and then complaining here isn't going to save you. What part of the World are you in? I assume Uk? If so there's a lot of help against these things. Had my own issue with it and I went at them with everything I could. They eventually gave way and did as I wanted to avoid a law suit. Im only 20 so I can't really speak for your circumstances but get people involved. Running away makes you a coward, you talk big on this forum bro. Bring that bravado into your real life.

They all originate from the same source. Gurbani is the father and the mother, the rest are all children. Like Children they make mistakes, so that's where Mum and Dad step in. Sikh should follow all three imo. But "scholar" writings should be look upon with great caution, the modern writings are nowhere near the standard of purtan sources.

study. God wont help you if you dont hep yourself. Study and do Sukhmani Sahib, or any path as they all have the same effect

I'm no expert in Jatha politics but surely if someone wants an education from them, they'll provide it? obviously providing they can prove they're atleast sejhdhari. I ask as I'm tempted to spend some time learning from the Nihangs at Hazoor Sahib.

Didn't you already make this thread? like a year or so ago?

So you're going to sit there, a first grader and try to argue with those who have a PhD? You have no knowledge of the scriptures or any Brahmgyani yet you're challenging the words of an institute that was started and taught by Guru Gobind SIngh Ji. That alone is arrogance and insulting the 10th Master. Where have I demeaned them? I stated what's written in Gurbani, Which says their egotistical, which also says they're lost in Maya. Is that Gurbani wrong then? Read Dasam Granth you cretin or even Chaubis Avatar, the first 37 stanzas SAY DIRECTLY that the incarnations are all lost in Maya and got lost in Maya. Guru Sahib refers to Krishna as an insect, oh look guys, I guess now Guru Sahib is demeaning them. He even penned an entire bani (Shabad Hazare Patashe 10) all of which criticises the Devtas and their incarnations. I've stated what's written in Gurbani, If that's demeaning them then go and argue with Guru Sahib as he's the one who penned it. ਸਿਵ ਸਿਵ ਕਰਤੇ ਜੋ ਨਰੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ सिव सिव करते जो नरु धिआवै ॥ Siv siv karṯe jo nar ḏẖi▫āvai. That man who chants "Shiva, Shiva", and meditates on him, ਬਰਦ ਚਢੇ ਡਉਰੂ ਢਮਕਾਵੈ ॥੨॥ बरद चढे डउरू ढमकावै ॥२॥ Baraḏ cẖadẖe da▫urū dẖamkāvai. ||2|| is riding on a bull, shaking a tambourine. ||2|| All of them renounced the Devta, that's why their bani is within Guru Sahib. Read the works of Bhai Gurdas Ji as he states they followed the One Primal lord and not egotistical devtas. He NEVER equates them, He says Guru Nanak Dev Ji is the greatest. You tried this argument with when you stupidily claimed that Guru Gobind Singh Ji worshiped Devi. The Avatars of Vishnu came and did their deeds, but it was God acting through them. Just like it was God acting through various people in ending world war 3 God acting through various people in doing just about everything in the world. Kal yug is an age, not a demon. Stop pulling out nonsense from everywhere. There''s only been 2 instances where Kalyug has personified himself, and Ravan isn't one of them. Shiva's own foolishness resulted in his ego granting Ravan his boons, who wasn't even truly evil btw. He was actually a rather pious person. Guru Granth Sahib Ji isn't a book, that alone shows you're not a Sikh. No Sikh would call it a book, The Gurbani that came was here to COUNTER Kalyug not because he asked for it. Gurbani hurts him. Waheguru came down because Kalyug was too powerful, not because he begged for it. Shiva, an Akali? Guru Sahib calls those who worship Shiva as being donkeys who kick up the dust. Why are you purposely going against the words of Mahapurkhs and Scholars and Gurbani. I've posted quotes upon quotes and sources. You have none. In all honesty, all you've done is shown people you're nothing more than a liar who's insulted Guru Granth Sahib JI, insulted Guru Gobind Singh Ji, insulted Sant Jarnail Singh Ji, insulted Bhai Sahib bhai Randhir Singh Ji, insulted Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji and insulted multiple other Bhagats in Gurbani by comparing them to fallible beings like the Devtas. You're free to go and beg Shiva to save you, to love you and make you his slave. No one will stop you, but everyone here will happily follow Guru Sahib to the dot. Ok I'm done now. We have someone here claiming that Kalyug is a good person who did Bhagti but that Bhagti didn't do anything for him and he begged for Gurbani. Ok then.

Gurbani is never inconsistent, Mahapurkhs aren't inconsistent. What a load of tosh, who on earth are you to call them liars? You can't even begin to fathom their knowledge, yet you claim to know more. Gurbani is never inconsistent on anything, it's already stated that Shiva is egotistical, Vishnu is egotistical and Brahma is egotistical. How dare you call Gurbani a lie and then claim to be a Sikh. His Sargun form was Guru Nanak Dev Ji, it was never Shiva or Vishnu. They're part of his creation, a far far smaller aspect of him, in the same category as us. No the definition will change depending on the context. That's the teaching of the Guru, the same people who are now carrying that tradition you are calling Liars. Words have always changed depending on the context that's how Gurbani was written, that's how it always has been taught. The arths spoken by Sant Ji were passed down by Guru Gobind SIngh Ji Maharaj, to insult them is to insult Maharaj himself. So I'll ask you once again, last time, yes or no answer please. Are all the Sants and Mahapurkhs wrong when they define the words? Do you think you know better? Are they all liars?