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this man had a lot of spiritual and social wisdom, but not enlightenment. he was wise because he was a philosopher and a meditator. he had mental wisdom, and maybe some ridhia sidhia (occult powers). he also probably had a respectable understanding of various languages and various religious customs. but he didn't have gurmat giaan, naam, sehaj, santokh, or nimarta. in the end this all caused him to be exposed as a complete fraud. he did not practice what he preached, he was not honest in his actions, he did ninda of satguru ji which is automatically fatal, and instead of gathering the masses to pray to the Creator God, he gathered the masses so that they could idolize him. in reality he was not a god (bhagwan), he was not great (shri), he did not have the depth of the ocean (osho), he was not a master of royalty (rajneesh). he was just a fraud. some of his books are well-written and especially his viakhia on japji sahib and on "ikoankar" is interesting, but it doesn't compare to katha by sant kartar singh ji or sant jarnail singh ji. it doesn't compare to books by bhai sahib randhir singh ji. and contrary to what "premkranti" said, it is not sikh consciousness that will fall, but the fraud that is osho which will be forgotten by the masses. raaj karaegaa khaalsaa aakee rahae na koae khoaar hoay sabh milaingay bachae sharan jo hoae SAAAAT SRIIIIIII AAKKKKAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL !!!!!!!!!! vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefathehhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if it's sikhi related i'm sure you could contact waheguroo network or gurmat studies foundation or ekta one or bcsikhyouth or ontariosikhyouth and they would be happy to upload it to their website so that you can link to it and tell people about it

vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!!! i think you can get it from satnam trust or khalsa library vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!!!

jasdeep singh veerjee, is there also another pind in district patiala called "dodra" ? there is also a pind "dodra" mentioned on sikhiwiki.com as a place where guru tegh bahadur sahib jee visited once and did some updesh to some sangat ? and some people say "doraha" but isn't that another place?

every year there is a smagam at gurdwara sahib brahm bunga in pind dodra, which i think is in district patiala of indian-occupied east punjab the smagam takes place from December 20-30 with simran and keertan in the morning and evenings, nitnem and asa di // in the mornings, rehiras and gurbani vichar in the evenings, every day for 10 days. For more information you can PM members of sikhsangat such as heera singh, japmans or you can phone Inderjit Singh at 780-489-7504 or Chain Singh at 450-923-1846

Singh jee, you forgot to post the link :lol:

Sikhs are a majority. How many amritdhari, rehitdhari Sikhs do you think there are in the world? There are 20 million "just by name" Sikhs and of those maybe 1 million is amritdhari and of those maybe 250, 000 keep rehit so each rehitdharee amritdharee gursikh is sava lakh so Sikhs actually have the mental / spiritual / physical / social / psychological power of: 31,250,000,000 (31 Trillion) people with guru ji's kirpa they just need to know how and when to use it :lol:

Well it all started in the UK.. sikhkids.com sangat has been having akhandjaaps for years.. i think they've had 9 akhand jaaps now.. and then Young Sikhs of UK organized one... and BC Sikh Youth got inspired to organize one last year so they did their first one in November... and Ontario Sikh Youth had their first akhandjaap earlier this year. At the BC Sikh youth Akhand Jaaps typically it starts with prakash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, Hukamnama, Nitnem, Ardas, Hukamnama, and then the Akhand Jaap starts. The akhand jaap includes basically different sevadaars taking turns to play the vaja and do simran. Tabla sevadaars also switch periodically. The atmosphere is amazing and all of the sangat just does simran continuously.. sometimes people say Gurbani lines here and there, or "Dhan Guru Nanak" but it is most "Waheguru" simran. That takes place for about 12 hours.. then Rehiras Sahib, and keertan, smampti, and Ardas, hukamnama, and langar. Langar is actually served as breakfast / lunch / snacks / dinner throughout the day while the Akhand Jaap is going on. It's an awesome experience - just like a Rainsabhaee keertan but a little bit longer, and with mostly simran. Check out www.akhandjaap.com for more info :lol:

vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!! i've been talking to the sangat since the akhand jaap and everybody is so amazed with guru ji's kirpa... guru ji did so much kirpa and it was such an inspirational experience... hopefully we can have more akhandjaaps and more sangat gatherings in the future... guru ji is so beautiful :lol: vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!!

he's right :lol: so satgur piara mere naal hai jithay kithay mainu lae chhadaaee naal hovanda leh na sakanda nikkat khiloiraa mera saajanaraa you know what else is with him.. memories of me ..

vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo

vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!!! vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo hau vaaree hau vaaree gursikh meeth pyaarae raam vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroo vaheguroo vaaheguroo vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!!

that was the most awesome akhand jaap... it was sooooooo chardee kalaa.... and sangat came from lower mainland, plus nanaimo, victoria, calgary, edmonton, and seattle. it was amaaaaziiiiinggggggggggggg........... vaaheguroo..... guru sahib did so much kirpaa.....

i think this topic is a waste of time and bandwidth pyareo, post good topics if you don't like the useless ones light gets ride of darkness ... look inside and shine bright if you don't see light around you gurmukh pyareo :lol: inspire rather than discourage please forgive my mistakes vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!

vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!!!!! gurmukh pyareo jee sant sujan singh jee's keertan is so amazing and his voice has so much pyaar in it. does anybody have more photos and/or any information about their jeevan. please share more about his jeevan. thank you vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!!!!

vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!! singh132 has provided good arguments to show that amritpal singh's conclusion is incorrect and the colour blue does have a significance and an importance in sikh history. this is the strangest thread not because the first person to post the question asked about a colour, but because the colour was blue. honestly most gursikhs would be surprised if you doubt the colour blue as a sikhi colour. not because they've been trained to think that way, but because it is a part of our traditions from the last, at least, 350 years. i know a lot of you "open minded" people hate it when people define things like colours, and sarbloh, and wearing bana, because it should be in the "heart" but at the same time sikhi is a lifestyle, not just a hobby. sometimes we think that guru granth sahib ji is a code book or rule book, from which we derive defined rules and guidelines. guru sahib is our full puran satguru, the light of God. yes, there are many rules and guidelines from guru sahib, in guru granth sahib ji, sri dasam granth sahib, vaars of bhai gurdas and bhai nand lal, and rehitnamas but more importantly, all of this teaches us how to think and how to live what i mean to say is, there might not be an explicit answer for "what to do when XYZ happens... or how to deal with XYZ situation" but guru sahib will train us how to think so that the answer comes from within and this training is not just "read gurbani once" and we're ready this is a NIT-NEM, continuous practice. in fact it is practiced by uchee-avastha gursikhs every second. every second they think "vaheguru" and they reduce their ego and increase their unity with gurmat. their thinking becomes one with gurmat and the answers come from them inside gurmat is a way of thinking. it is not just a "that's right, that's wrong" gurmat builds "bhaavnaa" or your paradigm, your way of looking at the world if we look at things from gurmat, then we see a lot of things differently, like what matters and what doesn't, and what is important and what isn't the colour blue / or any colour will not come between you and muktee, if you are already a brahmgyani. but this culture, this lifestyle, this way of thinking, this tradition, moulds a SIKH into a KHALSA. we develop from a student of the guru, to a property of the guru. we develop from people who "study and interpret" gurbani, to people who "live and practice" gurbani we shouldn't spend so much time arguing about these things - and that goes for both sides - but at the same time we should not shoot down panthic traditions just because we, in our 15 minutes of sikhi fame, think that we have some type of avastha if you don't know why the colour blue, or the nihang farla, or the dumalla, or bana, or sampuran rehiras sahib, or sarbloh batas, or other "strange things" in sikhi have significance or importance - please don't call them "brahministic" or "stupid" or "weird" until you know what they stand for this is the same reason why even sardars in india make "sardar ji barah baj gaye" jokes to themselves - because they have no idea what their own history is please forgive my mistakes saadhsangat jee this is my benti can we please forget the arguments and move on thank you :lol: vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!!

today was a beautiful day in vancouver, good temperature, clear skies. but weather is bad in my head... to many clouds and fog .. haha.

there might be one or two on gurmatstudies.com but i'm not sure..

Keertan one is great but close up is great too :nihungsmile:

You're right JSS, by the way I *KNEW* there was one picture I forgot to post :lol:

regardless of which is stronger cast iron or sarabloh is the material that should be used for kara / kirpan :lol:

rwgu goNf AstpdIAw mhlw 5 Gru 2 raag go(n)add asattapadheeaa mehalaa 5 ghar 2 Raag Gond, Ashtapadees, Fifth Mehl, Second House: <> siqgur pRswid ] ik oa(n)kaar sathigur prasaadh || One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: kir nmskwr pUry gurdyv ] kar namasakaar poorae guradhaev || Humbly bow to the Perfect Divine Guru. sPl mUriq sPl jw kI syv ] safal moorath safal jaa kee saev || Fruitful is His image, and fruitful is service to Him. AMqrjwmI purKu ibDwqw ] a(n)tharajaamee purakh bidhhaathaa || He is the Inner-knower, the Searcher of hearts, the Architect of Destiny. AwT phr nwm rMig rwqw ]1] aat(h) pehar naam ra(n)g raathaa ||1|| Twenty-four hours a day, he remains imbued with the love of the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||1|| guru goibMd gurU gopwl ] gur gobi(n)dh guroo gopaal || The Guru is the Lord of the Universe, the Guru is the Lord of the World. Apny dws kau rwKnhwr ]1] rhwau ] apanae dhaas ko raakhanehaar ||1|| rehaao || He is the Saving Grace of His slaves. ||1||Pause|| pwiqswh swh aumrwau pqIAwey ] paathisaah saah oumaraao patheeaaeae || He satisfies the kings, emperors and nobles. dust AhMkwrI mwir pcwey ] dhusatt aha(n)kaaree maar pachaaeae || He destroys the egotistical villains. inMdk kY muiK kIno rogu ] ni(n)dhak kai mukh keeno rog || He puts illness into the mouths of the slanderers. jY jY kwru krY sBu logu ]2] jai jai kaar karai sabh log ||2|| All the people celebrate His victory. ||2|| sMqn kY min mhw Anµdu ] sa(n)than kai man mehaa ana(n)dh || Supreme bliss fills the minds of the Saints. sMq jpih gurdyau BgvMqu ] sa(n)th japehi guradhaeo bhagava(n)th || The Saints meditate on the Divine Guru, the Lord God. sMgiq ky muK aUjl Bey ] sa(n)gath kae mukh oojal bheae || The faces of His companions become radiant and bright. sgl Qwn inMdk ky gey ]3] sagal thhaan ni(n)dhak kae geae ||3|| The slanderers lose all places of rest. ||3|| swis swis jnu sdw slwhy ] saas saas jan sadhaa salaahae || With each and every breath, the Lord's humble slaves praise Him. pwrbRhm gur byprvwhy ] paarabreham gur baeparavaahae || The Supreme Lord God and the Guru are care-free. sgl BY imty jw kI srin ] sagal bhai mittae jaa kee saran || All fears are eradicated, in His Sanctuary. inMdk mwir pwey siB Drin ]4] ni(n)dhak maar paaeae sabh dhharan ||4|| Smashing all the slanderers, the Lord knocks them to the ground. ||4|| jn kI inMdw krY n koie ] jan kee ni(n)dhaa karai n koe || Let no one slander the Lord's humble servants. jo krY so duKIAw hoie ] jo karai so dhukheeaa hoe || Whoever does so, will be miserable. AwT phr jnu eyku iDAwey ] aat(h) pehar jan eaek dhhiaaeae || Twenty-four hours a day, the Lord's humble servant meditates on Him alone. jmUAw qw kY inkit n jwey ]5] jamooaa thaa kai nikatt n jaaeae ||5|| The Messenger of Death does not even approach him. ||5|| jn inrvYr inMdk AhMkwrI ] jan niravair ni(n)dhak aha(n)kaaree || The Lord's humble servant has no vengeance. The slanderer is egotistical. jn Bl mwnih inMdk vykwrI ] jan bhal maanehi ni(n)dhak vaekaaree || The Lord's humble servant wishes well, while the slanderer dwells on evil. gur kY isiK siqgurU iDAwieAw ] gur kai sikh sathiguroo dhhiaaeiaa || The Sikh of the Guru meditates on the True Guru. jn aubry inMdk nrik pwieAw ]6] jan oubarae ni(n)dhak narak paaeiaa ||6|| The Lord's humble servants are saved, while the slanderer is cast into hell. ||6|| suix swjn myry mIq ipAwry ] sun saajan maerae meeth piaarae || Listen, O my beloved friends and companions: siq bcn vrqih hir duAwry ] sath bachan varathehi har dhuaarae || these words shall be true in the Court of the Lord. jYsw kry su qYsw pwey ] jaisaa karae s thaisaa paaeae || As you plant, so shall you harvest. AiBmwnI kI jV srpr jwey ]7] abhimaanee kee jarr sarapar jaaeae ||7|| The proud, egotistical person will surely be uprooted. ||7|| nIDirAw siqgur Dr qyrI ] needhhariaa sathigur dhhar thaeree || O True Guru, You are the Support of the unsupported. kir ikrpw rwKhu jn kyrI ] kar kirapaa raakhahu jan kaeree || Be merciful, and save Your humble servant. khu nwnk iqsu gur bilhwrI ] kahu naanak this gur balihaaree || Says Nanak, I am a sacrifice to the Guru; jw kY ismrin pYj svwrI ]8]1]29] jaa kai simaran paij savaaree ||8||1||29|| remembering Him in meditation, my honor has been saved. ||8||1||29||

mY baurI myrw rwmu Bqwru ] mai bouree maeraa raam bhathaar || I am crazy - the Lord is my Husband. ric ric qw kau krau isMgwru ]1] rach rach thaa ko karo si(n)gaar ||1|| I decorate and adorn myself for Him. ||1|| Bly inMdau Bly inMdau Bly inMdau logu ] bhalae ni(n)dho bhalae ni(n)dho bhalae ni(n)dho log || Slander me well, slander me well, slander me well, O people. qnu mnu rwm ipAwry jogu ]1] rhwau ] than man raam piaarae jog ||1|| rehaao || My body and mind are united with my Beloved Lord. ||1||Pause|| bwdu ibbwdu kwhU isau n kIjY ] baadh bibaadh kaahoo sio n keejai || Do not engage in any arguments or debates with anyone. rsnw rwm rswienu pIjY ]2] rasanaa raam rasaaein peejai ||2|| With your tongue, savor the Lord's sublime essence. ||2|| Ab jIA jwin AYsI bin AweI ] ab jeea jaan aisee ban aaee || Now, I know within my soul, that such an arrangement has been made; imlau gupwl nIswnu bjweI ]3] milo gupaal neesaan bajaaee ||3|| I will meet with my Lord by the beat of the drum. ||3|| ausqiq inMdw krY nru koeI ] ousathath ni(n)dhaa karai nar koee || Anyone can praise or slander me. nwmy sRIrMgu Bytl soeI ]4]4] naamae sreera(n)g bhaettal soee ||4||4|| Naam Dayv has met the Lord. ||4||4||

gauVI ] gourree || Gauree: inMdau inMdau mo kau logu inMdau ] ni(n)dho ni(n)dho mo ko log ni(n)dho || Slander me, slander me - go ahead, people, and slander me. inMdw jn kau KrI ipAwrI ] ni(n)dhaa jan ko kharee piaaree || Slander is pleasing to the Lord's humble servant. inMdw bwpu inMdw mhqwrI ]1] rhwau ] ni(n)dhaa baap ni(n)dhaa mehathaaree ||1|| rehaao || Slander is my father, slander is my mother. ||1||Pause|| inMdw hoie q bYkuMiT jweIAY ] ni(n)dhaa hoe th baiku(n)t(h) jaaeeai || If I am slandered, I go to heaven; nwmu pdwrQu mnih bsweIAY ] naam padhaarathh manehi basaaeeai || the wealth of the Naam, the Name of the Lord, abides within my mind. irdY suD jau inMdw hoie ] ridhai sudhh jo ni(n)dhaa hoe || If my heart is pure, and I am slandered, hmry kpry inMdku Doie ]1] hamarae kaparae ni(n)dhak dhhoe ||1|| then the slanderer washes my clothes. ||1|| inMdw krY su hmrw mIqu ] ni(n)dhaa karai s hamaraa meeth || One who slanders me is my friend; inMdk mwih hmwrw cIqu ] ni(n)dhak maahi hamaaraa cheeth || the slanderer is in my thoughts. inMdku so jo inMdw horY ] ni(n)dhak so jo ni(n)dhaa horai || The slanderer is the one who prevents me from being slandered. hmrw jIvnu inMdku lorY ]2] hamaraa jeevan ni(n)dhak lorai ||2|| The slanderer wishes me long life. ||2|| inMdw hmrI pRym ipAwru ] ni(n)dhaa hamaree praem piaar || I have love and affection for the slanderer. inMdw hmrw krY auDwru ] ni(n)dhaa hamaraa karai oudhhaar || Slander is my salvation. jn kbIr kau inMdw swru ] jan kabeer ko ni(n)dhaa saar || Slander is the best thing for servant Kabeer. inMdku fUbw hm auqry pwir ]3]20]71] ni(n)dhak ddoobaa ham outharae paar ||3||20||71|| The slanderer is drowned, while I am carried across. ||3||20||71||

dhan guru dhan guru dhan guru pyare dhan guru dhan guru nanak dev sahib jee dhan guru nanak dev sahib jee dhan guru nanak dev sahib jee dhan guru nanak dev sahib jee dhan guru dhan guru dhan guru pyare dhan guru dhan guru nanak dev sahib jee dhan guru nanak dev sahib jee waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru waheguru