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all jokes aside though i think that it is important for parents to train their kids about the gurdwara sahib and the proper conduct in the gurdwara sahib. stop the problem before it starts. if the parents are very clear and strict about gurdwara behaviour then the kids won't be tempted to act in a foolish manner during keertan / anand kaaraj / or other programs. kids get distracted. they want to have fun. but they're also very open and impressionable. if they can't focus it's the parents job to sit them down AT HOME and build their "dhyaan" by including their kids in nitnem, or rehiras, or keertan at home so they can feel naam and gurbani at the gurdwara rather than being distracted. if the parents train their kids now, they will be really helping them for the future challenges and distractions. if the kids start developing meditation skills and long attention span, they will be more spiritually inclined AND physically and mentally able to do akhand paath seva, rainsabhaee keertans, naam simran, etc. when they grow up. please forgive my mistakes vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!!!!

one good slap and a whack with a danda ?!?!?!?! you're not married are you bhainjee? planning to have kids soon? let me know how it works out.. j/ k :H: :H:

vaaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!! i'm sure many sikhs from puratan times had pets, but they had special spaces for the pets and they were not allowed to roam around upstairs. keep in mind that a dog / cat walks all around the house in bare feet, licks him/herself in the private areas, and does not do ishnaan every morning. it's not anything else - animals are beautiful and they are living creatures that should be respected and cared for. however, just be careful of their lack of cleanliness interfering with respect for guru maharaj and your shastars and bana. for example, you would not want a cat or dog drooling all over your bana, then you forget to change your bana and go and do maharaj's seva. it's all about common sense with hygeine and cleanliness, and sharda with regards to guru granth sahib ji's suroop and your shastars and your bana. please forgive me for my mistakes vaaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!!!

vaaheguroooo..... dhan dhan sri guru har rai sahib ji...... vaaahegurooooo......

hmm latest sikh baby names eh.. ipodpreet xboxjeet googlejot firefoxleen bluetoothinder ?? what do you mean by "latest" ? parents these days... how about these.. jasonpal matthewpreet michaelveer michellejot davidjeet

hm AMDuly AMD ibKY ibKu rwqy ikau cwlh gur cwlI ] ham a(n)dhhulae a(n)dhh bikhai bikh raathae kio chaaleh gur chaalee || I am blind, totally blind, entangled in corruption and poison. How can I walk on the Guru's Path? sqguru dieAw kry suKdwqw hm lwvY Awpn pwlI ]1] sathagur dhaeiaa karae sukhadhaathaa ham laavai aapan paalee ||1|| If the True Guru, the Giver of peace, shows His kindness, He attaches us to the hem of His robe. ||1|| next akhar... g

vaaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaaheguroojeekeefathehhh !!!!!!!! gurmukh pyare khalsa jee, i recognize and understand that slobodan milosovic was not the only paapee, in fact the earth is suffering due to the unlimited lekha of akirthghan paapees like myself, who put a heavy burden on the earth. i agree that the US government and various other governments have taken part in maha paap around the world, killing thousands of people and destroying millions of lives through their wars, global economic sanctions, business expansions, child labour, exploitation of poor people, and much more. my post wasn't to point finger at only one paapee but i was just celebrating for the sake of mother earth, who is suffering the burden of such people. and now dharamraaj has done / will do justice according to hukam. it is good to celebrate justice. nindakh kai mukh keeno rog jai jai kaar karehi sabh log gaavan thudhno pavan paanee baisanthar gaavai Raja Dharam, duaaray gaavan thudhno Chith-Gupath likh jaanan likh likh dharam beecharay guru sahib knows all actions and all accounts. guru maharaj kirpa karkay apnay khalsay noo niaarapan bakhshan athay bipran dee reeth tho bachaun thaa kay jaldee tho jaldee guru maharaaj dee kirpa naal khalsa raaj kaeim ho sakay. bhul chuk muaaf karnaa jee vaaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaaheguroojeekeefathehhhhh !!!!!!!!!

vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!! satguru sachay patshah sri guru gobind singh ji athay jagat mata sri mata sahib kaur ji day laadlay guru pyare guru savaaray guru-roop khalsa saadhsangat jee, today the "maathaa dharat mahath" .. the great mother earth.. has been relieved of a great burden of a horrendous paapee... Slobodan Milosevic, the former Serbian leader indicted for war crimes for orchestrating the Balkan wars of the 1990s, went to the jamdoots today. He was found dead in his prison cell in his bed at a UN prison near The Hague, the tribunal said in a statement. satguru gareeb nivaaj jee please show your divine mercy and help those families who were terrorized and victimized by this dusht. vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!

aaaaaawwwwwww what a cute bhola gursikh question... listen to the simran as often as you like.. guru sahib ji kirpa karan. please do ardas so that moorakhs like me can also have pyaas for simran and naam

vaaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaaheguroojeekeefathehhh !!!!!!!! khalsa jee do you know if prof. kirpal singh ji has any professional recordings done or where i could get the darbar sahib recordings of prof. kirpal singh ji's kirtan ? thanks vaaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaaheguroojeekeefathehhhhhh !!!!!!!

In Bhai Rama Singh Ji's autobiography he described different doors in hell leading to different punishments depending on your crime. I'm sure there is a new door being installed there called "French Government"

vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa vaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!! the keertan last night was amazing... i wish i had taken pictures but i am so dumb that i left my camera in the middle of the sangat and couldn't find it for most of the program until manvir singh helped me find it : it was so awesome to have darshan of so many chardi kala gursikhs... the keertan was beautiful... i always see these gursikhs in the pictures from camps and smagams and now i had the opportunity to see them in person - i felt very blessed guru jee is so beautiful... vaaheguroo jee kaa khaalsaa vaaheguroo jee kee fathehhhhhh!!!!!!

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beautiful vaaheguroo ~~ vaaheguroo ~~ vaaheguroo ~~ vaaheguroo vaaheguroo ~~ it is the same tune that gyani thakur singh does simran sometimes during katha but they do vaaheguroo ~~ vaaheguroo ~~ vaaheguroo ~~ dhan vaaheguroo ~~ the squiggly lines are for imaginary musical effect

sadhsangat ji vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaavaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!!!! The Gurbani does not say that Adam is the father of mankind. The TRANSLATION says that. The TRANSLATION is wrong. Bhagat Kabeer Jee is saying that only with God's grace did Adam have paradise for some time.

i definately agree with you. the more that somebody practices rehit, and does naam simran, the further their influence, their light, and their praise in this world and the spiritual realms

bin laden shin laden bush mush aethae bhae tho kahaa bhae bhoopath anth ko naangae kee paae padhaarae

bhainjee please change the line above.. it is: vich AGNI aap jalaaee

Veerjee, by using IsherMicroMedia i found the shabad... and i think it is also in the amrit keertan... but i don't think it's online (translation) bymuK hovin bymuKW mY jyhy bymuiK muiK ifTy [ bjr pwpW bjr pwp mY jyhy kir vYrI ieTy [ kir kir isTW bymuKW awphuM bury jwin kY isTy [ ilK n skin icqR gupiq sq smuMd smwvin icTy [ icTI hUM qumwr iliK lK lK iekdUM iek duiDTy [ kir kir sWg huryihaW huie mskrw sB siB irTy [ mYQhu burw n koeI sirTy ]30] i kind of understand most of the shabad and the last line is especially relevant but i don't know the word-by-word translation i think there might be a spelling mistake or two in the way i pasted the shabad

can't find it... veerjee you remember that amazing track by parmveer kaur from a few years ago "kabeer sabh thae ham burae" in that track she sang this shabad "mai tho buraa na koee sarittae" mYqoN burw nw koeI sirTy ?? i think that's how to spell it but it's a vaar by bhai gurdaas ji i think....? it's in the amrit keertan but i don't think it's on sikhitothemax. maybe searchgurbani?

gurmukh jee , that was a singhnee who is a Kaurs United sevadaar - contact them at kaurs_united@yahoo.com for the name / details

thank you sadhsangat ji if anybody else has places they know of please list them

thank you gurmukh ji do you know how far these places are from Ilford ?

sorry for the double post - admin can you delete one this forum sometimes freezes and it looks like the post won't make it.. but then it makes two posts @ anyway sadhsangat ji could you please share some events info