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Maybe keep it? At least some apneean might learn that what brothers are saying about how sullay perceive them isn't a lie.

I don't agree with this at all. It's only now that we've just started to confront things. We hid/ignored many things for decades: girls running away, prostitution, alcoholism, drug abuse etc. etc. It's not like other communities don't have these issues, but our lot were doing the holier than thou crap whilst all manner of things festered and grew.

Let me try and answer that again now I've had a ponder over it. I think it was starting to go the right way here (towards Sikhi) but I think having more and more freshies immigrating is likely pushing it back to bhangra-centric penduism.

Knowing whites, they are less likely to show their racism in front of females because they like to put up a façade of civility. But between blokes, when no broads are around, we get to see them for what they are really like. That's why you get women all confused about this.

It's like thinking that all apnay with kesh are religiously inclined and sexually restrained. Simply not true.

UK Sikhs have also put out lots of quality books on Sikh history too in the last few decades, more than anyone else. Panjab has come through too with translations of important texts like Panth Prakash and Sainapati's Sri Gursobha, and stuff like translating Mahan Kosh.

Look sis. The government and police (!!) here helped cover up the grooming of Sikh girls for decades (and still are!), that should give you an idea of what we've been dealing with. Couple that with how apnay seem to live in denial a lot of the time..... Have some respect for the brothers and sisters who didn't lay down like sheep in the face of this. And I'm just saying be wary of that tendency of many apnay to ignore or be oblivious to stuff. Have you read the RASE report? If not, you should.

No, I'm saying it looks like we've got this tendency in the community to get blinded by opportunities in the diaspora, and fail to observe phenomena going on under our noses whilst doing this. We seem arguably shallow. Focusing on folk dancing and status symbols, instead of deeper stuff. Also, when people do actually start realising something is wrong, they tend to keep quiet about it, making the problem even worse. Regarding the situation in Aus. It's early days yet, but it's better people in other diasporas learn from what happened in the UK, it might help prevent it taking place there. Like an early warning radar thing.

I think also, some people in the community are just plain blind, they don't actually see what happens behind facades like a streetwise person would. Too blinded by maya often? Which is why they came out in the first place.

It's up in the air right now. At least more people are recognising the distinction between the two. Let's be frank, we've got 5 generations plus here, some apnay/apneean couldn't give a hoot about their Sikhi heritage and probably mainly only ever end up in Gurdwaray dressed up for a wedding and can't wait for the party-sharty afterwards. lol

I think some see the reckless, masculine type of brothers as the only ones with the potential to stand up to oppressive sullay (and even goray) maybe? And I don't buy what you're saying: someone good looking, who is confident and in good shape will be attractive to females even if they have a dastaar. And I'm mona saying that.

No, I don't think so. For some reason, I think Panjabi culture and values were more strongly promoted in the past than Sikhi - that's a big part of it, but it's more complex than just that.

They don't, we've just got a certain bimboesque, loud, mouthy type, who are promiscuous and in your face about it. It's something that has to be addressed. There actions have repercussions on our panth's reputation. Don't take it personally. And pretending these types don't exist doesn't help. A lot of progress has been made though.

Where are you? Some brash apneean have made a bimbo-hoe reputation for themselves over decades in places, and the brothers ain't been better with their drunk, bhangra paa-ing fetishes. But things are changing thankfully. Not least of all because certain people attacked the community tendency to hide every issue like it wasn't happening..... There's been cases of some getting groomed, so no, I think you've been closeted a bit maybe? But yeah, overall Amritdhari bibian are less likely to get caught out like that.

What the **** was that? Anyways, truth is that these days streetwise Sikh brothers get a lot of attention (from females across the board) and lots of sulliyan want to hump, we just don't advertise it like certain other pedophile ridden communities might.

I see you're having nice wholesome conversations with your Dutch boyfriend then. lol!!!! I praise them, because even when hijabans are flirting with you, they do it discreetly. Apneean do it crassly, with like a big banner over them that clearly says 'easy hoe!!' that everyone can see in a 10 mile radius. A lot of asian sulliyan are sick of their menfolk these days and are getting rebellious......they will let you know they are up for it.

Remember I'm a bloke, we don't have ticking timebomb fertility windows to worry about. lol

I've been largely organic in my garden, but even then I have to kill loads of aphids, whether through natural pesticides (like neem oil, which doesn't seem to work too well?) or just physically rubbing the aphids off the plant. Or you can catch some ladybirds and use them to help control the pests. It's a genocide of creatures one way or another.

It's true. You have to kill lots of things just to grow food - aphids etc. Anyone killing creatures in the millions for vegetables and then pontificating about the virtues of vegetarianism makes me laugh.

You're the bipolar one. Glass houses and that. I see you're having another one of your episodes.

And you're some sort of role model are you? ha ha ha! You talk shyte, you're probably just getting into it now because you want to rope some bloke in. So what made you get into Sikhi then...

I wouldn't go that far mate. But I can tell a hoe from a million miles off now. I know women and their thinking better than ever now. What's weird is that I get attention off broads now more than I've ever before. Strange. I had to go to a bar for a birthday party of an old pal a few months ago (I hadn't been in years). I had to pass through. It was weird to be out like that after the prolonged lock down. A lot of broads hitting on a brother. It was weird though, because I'm pretty sure some of them were married......one married couple were even trying it on.......eeew Women are more thirsty than ever. That's what people are dealing with now.

Your lucky you didn't grow up in my ends, you'd find someone to put you to work in no time......hehehhehe

@shastarSingh You asked me to comment on another thread so I will. I would have stayed out otherwise. I think anyone trying to make a baaz vegetarian needs to be committed to a mental asylum. If I even heard that someone was actually even seriously considering it, I'd be in shock and wary of that person. It means that they don't understand kudrat and are trying to foist their human values on another joon, which seems mental. You just have to have a sharp cat and see how that behaves (with its natural predatory instinct), that makes it hunt down rats, mice and birds even though you feed it well! Personally a lot of my family (especially the older generation bibian) have been pro veg, or even if they ate meat, it would be sparingly and the usual diet would be what most of us know and expect: sabzhee, falleaan, daals etc. I'm not vegetarian now, though my mom pushed it when growing up. The issue of meat eating and Sikhi is a knotty one in my opinion. One side of my family has a close affiliation with Rara Sahib, and I know that sampardaya are pro-veg. As I was growing up, I obviously read more about my roots and learnt about jhatka (which I was told by my mom, was only a last resort for Singhs - which I don't believe is true now). To put it in a nutshell: I think there have always been meat eating and vegetarian Sikhs. It's also obvious jhatka has a very long provenance in our panth and even an older one in Indic (I think khatri?) tradition. Maybe it's the tradition or sampardaya that you or your family have been historically influenced by that makes us go one way or another? People should respect choices. No one should rub their personal preference in others faces. We need to have proper jhatka provisions for Sikhs internationally and reinforce this so that apnay don't eat jalaal, and also keep away from those types of establishments.

Just watched it. I liked it a lot. It's nice to have short videos that shine light on lesser known ithihaasik episodes. I think there should be english subtitles too, for gairhSikhs or young diasporic Sikhs whose language skills aren't developed yet. Camera work was really good. Made me want to visit Panjab. lol One day, Guru ji da kirpa.