dallysingh101

If you're female, you'd better be extra careful with that characteristic. Pimp types look for such things in the people they select to target for grooming.

Obviously the west is more prepared and has long standing intelligence agencies on the case against the Islamic fundamentalists (not withstanding how they've quietly tolerated them and even probably covertly supported them since the 80s in the UK at least). So I guess it makes strategic sense for the fundos to strike where they are least expected and where the perceived enemy is least prepared. Again, to me, it says a lot that such people have chosen a poor, non-white country that (as far as I'm aware) haven't been involved in trying raid arabic countries for their oil to strike back at in retaliation for what a European descended white supremacist did.

Here's the TOC. People might want to jump straight to the chapters on Sikhs if they don't want to read the wider contextual stuff:

How comes these guys were still using the true Khalsa standard at this time? How did the community come to universally accept the modern version over this? Did goray do the standard flag change thing they do in places they've conquered?

Absolutely. I think context in each usage of the word is the key here. My belief is that Sikhi is a quite an advanced, sophisticated thing (in terms of conceptualisations), that does require higher cognitive thinking to try and grasp. Problem with Singh Sabha thinking (in my opinion) was that they tried to simplify it (some might call it 'dumbing down') for their main ground level supporters who were largely illiterate or semi-illiterate. This is understandable in that they were trying to impart their understanding which (I don't care I'm going to say it!) was heavily influenced by British thinking of that time, to people who had very fluid understandings of the universe around them that meshed Sikhi with their own tribal, regional practices and worldview. So I get what they were trying to do but I feel important things were lost in this process. This explains a lot about our current state in my opinion. I just feel that imposing western, systematic, reductionalist models on Sikhi (which created 'Sikhism'), skews things in no small way.

I think the Brits started this trend, and it was followed by the apnay who were educated underneath them or those influenced by such people. Prior to their arrival, no one disrespected the Dasam Granth. It has a lot of social, political, military knowledge that would have caused problems for the colonialists.

Kali/Chandhi probably represents a few things. Oh, I agree that a separateness from what we can call 'Hindu' came about early, in the times of the Gurus themselves. My contention is that the conceptualisation of 'Hinduism' (as we know it today) as some coherent over-arching structure over a myriad of differing practices, didn't come about until goray came around and tried to apply Abrahamic type categorisation and structure on all the beliefs they encountered. I mean look at the Bhakti movement compared to classic 'Hinduism' - it rejects (and even overtly attacks)a lot of the notions that are central to traditional Hinduism. Even the term 'Hindu' is a shifting one - one where it suggests religious belief one minute, and a another sort of geo-political status the next (like Moghuls used it to describe the inhabitants of what is now known as India). I mean even Bhangu referred to Singhs as Hindus in his classic work. It seems like there were a lot of subtle nuances and uses of the term that don't correspond to how it is used today - and our ancestors knew about the overlap as well the distinct differences in the communities. I thought I answered this previously. In my opinion, the big difference is in the soci0-political vision of the Gurus which was clearly built on a militaristic, assertive, egalitarian, sovereign meritocracy that had not been seen before. That explains a lot of the dynamism, success and popularity of the early Khalsa. Read Jagjit SIngh's Sikh Revolution for an incisive exposition of this. In spiritual terms, other movements like the bhakti one tries to achieve what Sikhs are trying to do with simran but they don't have the clear institutes and vision that Sikhi has on the social/political plane which also expresses itself in military terms.

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I think prior to being colonised Sikhs had no problem with such iconography/artwork as it was probably just viewed as normal cultural motifs - I don't think it had that hard polarised Sikh/'Hindu' dimension that was to latter emerge. Chandhi Ki Vaar in Dasam Granth suggests this too.

I made some haldhee powder from fresh haldhee I bought. It's messy and time consuming but worth it.

Personally I think Sikhs imbibing conservative Victorian, Anglo prudery during the colonial period plays a big part in why some apnay's mindsets' cause them to refuse to accept the contents of CP because they see the contents as somehow 'ashleel' as a consequence of that influence.

I always thought the rejection of rigid caste notions was one of the aspects that made Sikhi unique and dynamic and that this also made India eventually militarily weak and inflexible which led to centuries of subjugation. How can anyone of us claim we aren't doing the same now? Look at how many people (who've been socially oppressed) are converting to xstianity in Panjab now. Like that's not going to cause big demographic/political problems for apnay in the near future.....

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You say that but lo and behold....... https://patents.google.com/patent/EP2254565A1/en?oq=ep2254565a1 https://patents.google.com/patent/US8071641

What confuses me is that the original attack on the mosque in NZ was done by someone who was clearly flying the white supremacist flag, but these people (if initial reports of this being a retaliation for the NZ attacks are true) - attacked a bunch of mainly brown Christians in response?!?!? I guess the truth Is that extremists of this type aren't too fussy about who they kill in retaliation.

This plant sounds interesting. And I agree with the highlighted bit above. But it can get controversial too. Like I believe that our ancestors used Sukha (cannabis) and even parts of the poppy plant in various ways that was outside of recreational intoxication, but if we broach these topics today, we'd be metaphorically lynched. Even today, I heard how an much older relative (by marriage not blood) had a stroke and how they slipped a ting bit of afeem under his tongue when it happened, and how this saved him from the worst effects of partial paralysis for a good few years after. I think western notions of 'drugs' etc. introduced during colonialism messed up true indigenous attitudes towards these substances and how they were used holistically. But as ever, goray have done a complete U turn now and just yesterday I was in Holland and Barret and noticed these whole array of CBD cannabinoid products, which cost a fortune! So they'll make money out of it but demonise it at the same time?!?!? Meanwhile our slow ar5es still struggle to catch up on stuff we were ahead of the curve on not long ago..... Just the other week some cousin of a Tory MP got a licence to grow 4000 acres of cannabis in Sierra Leone for 'medicinal cannabis'. So they know it has beneficial properties. People mentioned haldhee too, and how the west is now jumping on that (I think it is because gorays high levels of dementia which haldhee apparently helps prevent?) I think lots of people have issues with images like these because they have been (unwittingly) influenced by Eurocentric ideas and swallowed all that stuff (like Aryan and Scythian theory) that was thrown at us during the hundred years of colonial subjugation (and the way the losing side was made to identify with the conquerors). So when they see dark skinned Sikhs it upsets them. What did the panj piaray look like? Especially the ones from down south? The truth is that we have a lot of genotypes in our community.

You have to somehow get at the root causes of his depression. Why does he feel like he does?

Note all the current obsession with light skin. These geezers are as black as some Africans.The one on the right could pass for Aboriginal. And people should speak for themselves......no pot belly here.....lol I think it's actually more about physical activity. I was looking at the Falcon regimental guide and I was pretty shocked to see that the diet had not changed much in over hundred years. Basically my parent's generation was eating pretty similar (if not identical) to what was a normal rural Panjabi diet a hundred and thirty odd years ago. I think the lack of sun and heat in the west also plays a big part in not only our skin colour, but also our biological processes with vit D.

I don't think this guy is a Sikh. They don't normally wear those cone things in their turbans.

Happy Vasaikhi everyone!

Luddhoo vundho!

Because I don't promote those things. Plus he is still active on the forums anyway, so........?

Yeah alright. Ignore all our questions but keep asking your own......

I think literal interpretations are dangerous. Gurbani tries to communicate routes to an ineffable experience to humans and uses various devices to achieve this. I don't think literalism is a good idea in that respect. I think it tries to communicate on a more intuitive level over time, through sustained exposure.