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  1. This will be slow but should happen. Dasam bani knowledge is urgently needed for sikhs all over the world. If sikhs had chartripakhyan knowledge gyaan it could help with the kanjar dating stuff and drink pub club smoke culture mentality bringing us down. Also dasme pathsha banis promote the mind to support carrying shastar. Sarbloh Granth will take more difficulty for panth to understand, but is required. Slowly, slowly need to bring banis back into nitnem before these changes. -bring more dasam banis into nitnem, and promote longer Chaupai Sahib and Tav prasad Swaiye. Add Chandi banis and shastarnaam mala. some gurdwaras I see are now doing the longer Chaupai paat. Sampooran Rehraas and also full Aarti Aarta with Guru Gobind Singh ji baniya, not the short one they do in Harimandir Sahib. THEN, things will change. However, also remember that alot of parkash might be done by Chakarvarti Singhs or outside gurdwaras. Remember rehati Singhs might be living outside and travelling. Gurdwaras had much more sehajdhari sangat before Singh Sabha movement, so may have just had Adi Guru Granth parkash. In fact, there were gurdwaras that just had shastar prakash only, and no granth parkash. This would have reduced beadbi greatly, as Adi Granth saroop were handwritten and larivaar, and not SGPC printing press copies. The saroop would more likely be at gurdwaras with sewadaars, and not lonely, quiet gurdwaras. Now that gurdwaras are controlled by amrit dharis, why are the gurdwaras still only parkash Adi Guru Granth, this is more like sehajdhari gurdwara. If the mahants have been removed, then why are gurdwaras only concentrating on bani for wider panth and not Khalsa panth. It is making gurdwaras into sehajdhari gurdwaras, and sehajdhari mentaltiy - this would be pefectly fine for gurdwaras that are not under khalsa panth and under sehajdharis or sehajdhari mahants I think it might have been this forum where I read words of Guru Gobind Singh, where the pothis are consider siblings or children of Adi Granth. Parkash of pothis can be done a bit lower or nearby. instead of the gatka dancing done by mainstream, we should have archery and shooting ranges set up in the big gurdwaras. Look how much space there is in Singh Sabha Havelock Southall! LEarning archery and shooting is much more useful then modern gatka. shastar vidiya (or i guess some gatka) is important, but only if we can find the correct teachers. otherwise need to complement with martial arts. But also important to have wrestling/mal yudh and kabaddi also aids in this. Remember Guru Angad setup up wrestling akharas. So why are we not doing this? And most of the kabaddi players are moneh, why are amrit dharis not picking this up? see some aspects of shastar vidiya such as mal yudh/wrestling is easily available yet we are not implementing it!
  2. ipledgeblue

    Hair Dye

    I know some khatri sikhs and maybe afghan sikhs do some mehndi dying thing, I don't think you are supposed to though.
  3. I went to Guru Nanak School, not everyone was exactly nice, not even people trying to show that they are into sikhi or even amrit dhari. I listen to paat at work using headphones. This is not possible for you? Paat calms me down and I guess numbs any pain. Also listen to or read Guru Gobind Singh banis to feel courageous. Also do some sehaj paat from your mobile =)
  4. end of the day, hinduism term was created to suit the gora, angrej, firanghi to make bharati/hindus/hindustanis follow the abrhamic concept of religion. hinduism term doesn't really apply to the dharmik traditions, including sikhi of course. hindu itself used to be used as a geographical and cultural term during 10 Gurus times and mughal rule. IT also pointed to the ancient civilisation, although the term was rare during ancient times. Goras changed and twisted it to a religious label.
  5. I think the Southall Singh Sabha election was at a time when uni sikh societies would have minimal influence. OR you mean uk sikh societies in general outside unis? I think UK uni societies need to use their resources, and could start doing basics of sikhi style parchar as well as a host of other stuff. Like in West London, where a lot of the sikhs at these unis don't attend the uk sikh societies. However these students skills could get involved in sikhi by making videos, using web design, programming and graphics media skills. It get's them experience and exposure for when they would join the workplace as well as getting them some sikhi knowledge, as otherwise they would probably not go to sikh society meetings or events.
  6. Got a bit excited when I saw Westminster, but then I saw New Westminster.
  7. by reading page 2 pf this thread, I do not think you will find anything constructive regarding this topic on this forum. try SA and reddit.
  8. As Naamdharis still perform it, maybe find out where they got this maryada from. I know they read japji sahib, could be some other nitnem banis as well. I seen it on YouTube somewhere. I know Naamdharis went to Hazoor Sahib to get maryada, maybe this is a start? There are good arguments about havan in this thread, I mean arguments against. But I am keeping an open mind. Yes, but this is not a hindu havan when gurbani is read is it? Lighting a fire automatically becomes a hindu ritual? Then even doing matha tek and chaur sahib is also a hindu ritual so what should we do? Also Aarti.
  9. 6th form is the 12th and 13th year of education for uk students. Many uk schools end at the 11th year, so most 6th forms are colleges, but some schools also have 6th forms. The most popular qualification taken is A-Levels, it is the pre-university qualification taken in uk mostly in Colleges and in some Schools.
  10. Many girls love the bearded look. I remember when my beard was just growing and I used to wear a patka in 6th form, many goris loved it --- lol anyway... Instead of getting with these girls, you need to find a marital partner. I myself went through the pain with going through all these arranged marriage talks with these alcoholic families and so on... If we marry into these families we will experience pain. The pain is made worse if we cut our beards or even hairs for these families. I prefer not to hang around my relatives as I will experience anti-gurmat pain and lack of turban respect. Although you follow some of Guru's rehat, you also need to follow Guru Nanak's way of grihast jeevan. Because many sikh families are now not follow grihast jeevan early enough, it is causing a lot of pain in sikh population with excessive lust and stupid dating partnerships and so on... IF you can marry out of these families and instead into gursikh families, this will greatly help you. However, a wife from gursikh family will probably find it painful living with your families. Even though you are going to uni, and also such a good one, I am still mentioning marriage. IF you cannot stay out of pre-marital lust then marriage will be a good support for you , even at your age. I went through so much pain of controlling lust during 6th form, so much attention but I only wanted to find a good sikh girl. University I went through this pain as well and somehow controlled myself again, especially difficult when seeing apney do this girlfriend-boyfriend stuff all around you. I also recommend incorporating Guru Gobind Singh's banis in nitnem. Since you wore chola, maybe you already did? Chandi Charritar, Chandi Di Vaar, Uggardanti, Shastar Naam Mala. Also Sampooran Rehraas and sleep with Rakhiya deh shabad with Keertan Sohila. You're so lucky though. I started full Japji Sahib paat probably during or after 6th form. Before I only knew like 5 pauris.
  11. so how would this apply to doing keertan in raag and with tanti saaj as opposed to using harmonium and perhaps other tunes including bollywood bhangra tunes?
  12. I know right? talk about misleading
  13. I read cassette alarm, and thought who has that anymore? Then saw that the OP was from 2004 LOL!
  14. "Wicked Dhadis" sounds more like an evil title!
  15. yes completely removing kesh is different as sadhus do this such as Baba sri Chand, and of course monks such as Buddha-panth. This has been true for a long time in Bharat history. The shaving usually signifies renouncing something, such as renouncing society or something else. This is not compatible with mainstream sikh panth as grihast jeevan is recommended.
  16. no one seems to have replied with the proper nitnem then?
  17. One thing I would hate about Canada is how far it is from India. I hate the flight from London to India, and to go from Canada I would hate is so much more, would at least try and stop in London for a few days lol
  18. yeh, it's also a problem that people need to know why they cut kesh in the first place. Insaan has been given roop with kesh, so to have to go through kesh removal ritual without good reason is very silly for a sikh.
  19. In Canada is there a women's shelter you can go to, or relatives? Canada is big, you could to to a far away state where your in-laws cannot find you.
  20. Also for OP, I think growing your hair will help you with become more spiritual. Long hair has always been promoted to help develop spritualness, it will help open your dasam duar coupled with meditation.
  21. I beg to differ, let's see what dasmeh patshah has to say about this =) ਸ੍ਰੀ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਜੀ ! ਤੁਮ ਪੰਥ ਚਲਾਯੋ ॥ ਬਾਣਾ ਰਚਯੋ ਕੇਸ਼ ਰਖਵਾਯੋ ॥ [Nau Nidh speaking] “Oh Lord, you have started this Path, you have created this dress and made them keep Kesh.ਗੁਰੂ ਗਰੀਬ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਬਤਾਵਹੁ॥ ਕਿਸ ਕਾਰਨ ਕਰਿ ਇਨਹੁਂ ਰਖਾਵਹੁ ?॥3॥Guru Ji, helper of the poor, tell me - Why do you make them keep Kesh?ਸੁਨਿ ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖ ਫੁਰਮਾਵਨਿ ਕਰਯੋ ॥ ਤੁਮ ਕੋ ਸ਼ਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬਹੁਤ ਬਿਚਰ੍ਯੋ ॥Hearing the words [of Nau Nidh], Guru Ji said, "You have studied many Shaastras”ਪੜ੍ਹਨ ਸ਼੍ਰਵਨ ਮਹਿਂ ਬੈਸ ਬਿਤਾਈ ॥ ਇਹ ਗਤਿ ਲਖੀ ਕਿ ਨਹਿਂ ਤੁਮ ਪਾਈ ॥4॥“You have spent your life listening and reciting the Shaastras, yet you have not come to realize the answer”ਧਰਮ ਰਖਨਿ ਕੇਸ਼ਾਦਿਕ ਭਲੇ ॥ ਸਨਕਾਦਿਕ ਤੇ ਆਵਤਿ ਚਲੇ ॥ Adorning Kesh is beneficial to keeping one’s Dharam, since the start of time this has been the tradition.ਭਾਰਥ ਖੰਡ ਬਿਖੈ ਸ਼ੁਭ ਦੇਸ਼ ॥ ਕੇਸ਼ ਰਾਖਣੋ ਧਰਮ ਬਿਸ਼ੇਸ਼’ ॥5॥In the great land of Bharat [India], keeping Kesh is an exalted part of Dharam.ਸੁਨਿ ਕੈ ਨਉਨਿਧ ਬਹੁਰ ਬਖਾਨਾ ॥ ਆਪ ਕਹਹੁ ਸਭਿ ਸਾਚ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਨਾ ॥Listening to the answer, Nau Nidh replied, “what you have said is true.ਪ੍ਰਥਮ ਕੇਸ਼ ਧਾਰੀ ਸਭਿ ਕੋਈ ॥ ਅਬਿ ਤੌ ਸਮਾ ਰਹ੍ਯੋ ਨਹਿਂ ਸੋਈ’ ॥6॥Everyone used to keep their Kesh, however times have changed.”ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਭਨ੍ਯੋ ‘ਸਮਾ ਕ੍ਯਾ ਕਹੈ ॥ ਸੋ ਰਵਿ ਸੋ ਸਸਿ, ਸੋ ਜਲ ਅਹੈ ॥ ਬਾਯੂ, ਬੰਨੀ, ਬਸੁਧਾ ੳਈ ॥ ਦੋਸ਼ ਸਮੈ ਕੋ ਕ੍ਯਾ ਕਹਿ ਕੋਈ ॥7॥ Guru Ji replied, “How have times changed? The same sun remains, the same moon, water, wind, fire and Earth remain. How can you blame time?ਆਪਨ ਆਪ ਕੋ ਦੋਸ਼ ਲਖੀਜੈ । ਰਾਖੇ ਜਾਇਂ ਨ, ਸਾਚ ਕਹੀਜੈ ॥ Blame yourself for not being able to keep Kesh, speak the truth Nau Nidh.ਕੇਸ਼ ਰਖਨਿ ਕੀ ਸਮਰਥ ਹੀਨੇ ॥ ਦੋਸ਼ ਸਮੇਂ ਪਰ ਕਲਪਨ ਕੀਨੇ ॥8॥ You do not have the strength to keep Kesh so you dismissively blame the times for changing.
  22. if it does not matter then why cut kesh in the first place? Surely the cutting of kesh is following societal norms and rejecting our culture, especially when one increases ego by trying all these different hairstyles?
  23. It's parents responsibility to make sure they bring up the children with kesh. When the children are old enough, then they can decide if they need to go through with the haircut ritual. As sikhs, we should treat haircut as a useless and wasteful ritual.
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