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  1. ipledgeblue

    Halal food

    ok, we could make a topic about this, about environmental issues. Firstly, since sikhi also respects sarguna, then respecting Earth and environment as Maa dharti from mata dharat mahat should be something we do. Sarguna includes nature as well. Then you you see the full maryada bana wearing Singhs who don't need a physical gurdwara for Guru Maharaj. Guru Maharaj is with them and their dals and shuanis, when they are travelling by trucks and horses. Physical gurdwara is more required for sehajdharis and civilian Singhs. In contrast, look at the money wasted in making massive gurdwaras, and these massive gurdwaras hardly have any shastar training, why no archery or shooting ranges? Also Singhs that practise jhatka are really supposed to use wild goats. Again, this is nothing compared to mass produced meat factories. Still organic is a better option but still not environmentally friendly as jhatka. And hunting is even better as well. I mean all the mass produced vegetables we eat are probably also environmentally-unfriendly. Unless we start growing our own foods, maybe have massive allotments connected to gurdwaray where sangat does sewa and collects food! Could expand on this on a new topic!
  2. I'm sure someone will not be wearing shirt and tie if they are wearing bana. So your argument is nonsense again. Besides, where will Singh store shastars with shirt and tie?
  3. they need bani to replace the drinking that they are doing to numb their minds. And I also have seen the card thing with Birmingham uncles.
  4. Remember there are prachariks also from Nirmala and Udasi sampradaiye, and basically some of these are not visible from the SGPC's picture of the panth. We need to look at the much wider picture of who can do proper parchar. Some of the prachariks we have now could not even match the level of the sadhus sants or just bhagats found in those sampradaiye. We are better off with these than people going off to others such as Radhasoamis or Nirankaris. The reason people are attracted to them is because they try and do deep prachar and relate their sangat to those. But in sikh panth, nirmalas and Udasis do the same. The problem with our regular pracharaks is that most of them don't go deep enough, or don't use proper sources such as Suraj Parkash or Guru Gobind Singh's banis, and even then they can't relate the sangat to the prachar. And I know for a fact those sampradaiye are in uk as well.
  5. I have changed my turban style a few times since I started tying turban. It's been over a decade. But the difference really happened when I started wearing something under my turban which stops any pain. I used to tie a ramal. Now I just tie something around my joora, like the start of dumalla tying. As long as their is a buffer between your head and the over turban then you should be ok. Need to experiment a bit and watch some youtube videos to get inspiration. I am trying to change to a proper dumalla eventually.
  6. that's the problem. Strict Singhs see it as being disrespectful to cover kacherras LOL But seriously, the true rehit is to wear a kacherra. And definitely not a pajama. But obviously, since it gets so cold in countries like UK especially snow maybe there has to be some flexibility?
  7. ipledgeblue

    Halal food

    lol not provocative, you should see the later sants and bhais people quote for history books. look I was talking about veggie pakhandi sants, not real veggie sants. A lot of sants are pakhandis and preach vegeterianism. but why are they pakhandis? Because they wear kripaan and show themselves as amrit dharis yet don't practise the shastars like Guru Gobind Singhs says you should do, and also they don't further preach this to their sangat! Look we should not eat khulla maas, the meat bought from shops and restaurants. Khalsa is supposed to practise shikar and jhatka, in addition to shastar abiyaas. WE should not eat/drink this injected and pumped full of antibiotics organic shop bought meat or milk. It should be banned to even donate non-organic milk to gurdwaras! And also we should use the proper stuff in gurdwaras for karah parshad and sweet items and not this refined sugar chini that causes diabetes!! Again gurdwaras need to ban a lot of things, and amrit dharis need to stop eating a lot of things, before we can even talk about if meat is wrong or not! You should read what gurbani says about flesh. You will not need to go beyond Guru Nanak ji dee bani on flesh. There's a lot of stuff about flesh from baba Nanak. Flesh eaters are not silent by the way, have you seen what happens at Hazoor Sahib? Actually you should see what happened to the missionary sikh who tried to stop the Aarti, trust me the state of his face has nothing to do with any deafening silence!
  8. ipledgeblue

    Halal food

    are we allowed to say stuff like that on this forum now? I know a lot of people used to get banned and topics locked when true facts were stated LOL There used to be admins that followed sants or bhai sahibs that would preach your statement down into the ground. But obviously, the real Khalsa with their shastar, bani, bana, and itihas does not fall so easily!
  9. Since this old thread has been revived, I will have to comment. IF you want to look like trim Singh then you can easily just do thathi on different parts of your beard and moustache to compress them. Then when you want to look like a Singh you just open it and maybe use kanga to sort it. However, we really don't need to have short beards. PErhaps for specific reasons in your job you might need to. Otherwise, only time Singhs tired their beards up was because the angrez ordered them to for serving in BRitish army and I guess this got carried over to east african sikh descendents and modern indian army as well. Or obviously, if you're a Singh who is doing spy work for Khalsa. OR there is the extreme when Bhagat Singh had to trim his hairs. Anyway I remember an amrit dhari I went to school with. HE was handsome and always had tied beard pics on Facebook. He is from an east african background. And then a few years ago he seems to have trimmed his dhari and has pics with these. I also always see him with some hindu girl on FB pics now. Very strange people. I have pendoo jatt drunk relatives and I wear my dhari with pride around them. I hope it intimidates them as well.
  10. ipledgeblue

    Halal food

    I guess pakhandi veggie saints/sants then
  11. I am confused about your statement, are you declining to acknowledge your sister as being progressive? And yes, nothing progressive about those peoples in the videos. Unfortunately, I have no sisters but I have drunk jatt uncles and PENDOO aunties who try to be modern. A lot of PENDOO punjabis around me who are the epitome of modern but not PROGRESSIVE. oh heathlands and in Hounslow lolol. things make even more sense. However when I was scouring her Twitter feed a month or so back, I am sure she mentioned Guru Nanak School.
  12. So you went to Guru Nanak school with her? I think you mean your sisters are also PROGRESSIVE. A lot of PENDOOFIED people try to look and be MODERN without being PROGRESSIVE. Such as pendoo women who come from the pend and then get stupid haircuts, and maybe start doing glassy as well. And a lot of other nonsense. A lot of PENDOOS know how to be MODERN without being PROGRESSIVE.
  13. ipledgeblue

    Halal food

    this people follow sant babas or bhai sahibs that hardly practise shastar rehit of khalsa.
  14. dastar is only for covering kes? Why don't you ask those who wear dumallas loaded with shastar, or read the history of the maharajas who wore their pagris? Have you ever heard the saying? :Piyo deh pagh pehra wich roldei Dastaar is totally a thing of izzat and self respect in our culture. YEs there are bad people who wear turbans. But seriously I am much more intimidating since I had a beard. The Khalsa Singhs wore the bana and carried shastar, but the look was not complete without the high turbans and intimidating beards. With a scary look, half the fight is won!
  15. If they think they can access sikhi like that, then they will get a warped version. However the christians bible translations in English are just warped and propaganda like King James or Good News.
  16. Well I actually meant to wear the dastaar and use being a Singh to stop bullies flicking or putting the allergic food on the child. Of course dastaar can block flicked food as well. Yes, but with turban also comes annakh. Annakhi person fights back against bullies. Wearing turban has meaning, it is not like a hat.
  17. this is why we shouldn't cut our hair. we should keep our turbans and have annakh, then we don't get bullied. Then the bullies don't dare flick things like cheese at us!
  18. ipledgeblue

    Halal food

    lol definitely not pork if halal, probably halal lamb.
  19. ipledgeblue

    Halal food

    'Drink the immortal nectar and upon joining the Khalsa fold go hunting. Continually seek to perfect your use of weapons. Perform 'Jhatka' and eat goats. Do not even go near Halal meat.' -'Sri Gur Panth Prakash', Ratan Singh Bhangu, pg. 110. lol not actively!!!
  20. ipledgeblue

    Halal food

    of course. But I reckon the east african sikhs brought this trend in more strongly. The fathers and grandfathers had colonial british raj army soldier obeying fixofied beards and the sons in an imitation of this had trim or tramline beards. It has spread to everyone else now as well. And something super strange is happening. now sikh boys in uk and india are copying the hipster look. So now they are GROWING their beards but still keeping a haircut with no turban. WHAT KIND OF RIDICULOUSNESS IS THIS????
  21. ipledgeblue

    Halal food

    You should listen to Aasa dii vaar: ਮਃ ੧ ॥ मः १ ॥ Mėhlā 1. First Mehl: ਮਾਣਸ ਖਾਣੇ ਕਰਹਿ ਨਿਵਾਜ ॥ माणस खाणे करहि निवाज ॥ Māṇas kẖāṇe karahi nivāj. The man-eaters say their prayers. ਛੁਰੀ ਵਗਾਇਨਿ ਤਿਨ ਗਲਿ ਤਾਗ ॥ छुरी वगाइनि तिन गलि ताग ॥ Cẖẖurī vagā▫in ṯin gal ṯāg. Those who wield the knife wear the sacred thread around their necks. ਤਿਨ ਘਰਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਣ ਪੂਰਹਿ ਨਾਦ ॥ तिन घरि ब्रहमण पूरहि नाद ॥ Ŧin gẖar barahmaṇ pūrėh nāḏ. In their homes, the Brahmins sound the conch. ਉਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਭਿ ਆਵਹਿ ਓਈ ਸਾਦ ॥ उन्हा भि आवहि ओई साद ॥ Unĥā bẖė āvahi o▫ī sāḏ. They too have the same taste. ਕੂੜੀ ਰਾਸਿ ਕੂੜਾ ਵਾਪਾਰੁ ॥ कूड़ी रासि कूड़ा वापारु ॥ Kūṛī rās kūṛā vāpār. False is their capital, and false is their trade. ਕੂੜੁ ਬੋਲਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਆਹਾਰੁ ॥ कूड़ु बोलि करहि आहारु ॥ Kūṛ bol karahi āhār. Speaking falsehood, they take their food. ਸਰਮ ਧਰਮ ਕਾ ਡੇਰਾ ਦੂਰਿ ॥ सरम धरम का डेरा दूरि ॥ Saram ḏẖaram kā derā ḏūr. The home of modesty and Dharma is far from them. ਨਾਨਕ ਕੂੜੁ ਰਹਿਆ ਭਰਪੂਰਿ ॥ नानक कूड़ु रहिआ भरपूरि ॥ Nānak kūṛ rahi▫ā bẖarpūr. O Nanak, they are totally permeated with falsehood. ਮਥੈ ਟਿਕਾ ਤੇੜਿ ਧੋਤੀ ਕਖਾਈ ॥ मथै टिका तेड़ि धोती कखाई ॥ Mathai tikā ṯeṛ ḏẖoṯī kakẖā▫ī. The sacred marks are on their foreheads, and the saffron loin-cloths are around their waists; ਹਥਿ ਛੁਰੀ ਜਗਤ ਕਾਸਾਈ ॥ हथि छुरी जगत कासाई ॥ Hath cẖẖurī jagaṯ kāsā▫ī. in their hands they hold the knives - they are the butchers of the world! ਨੀਲ ਵਸਤ੍ਰ ਪਹਿਰਿ ਹੋਵਹਿ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥ नील वसत्र पहिरि होवहि परवाणु ॥ Nīl vasṯar pahir hovėh parvāṇ. Wearing blue robes, they seek the approval of the Muslim rulers. ਮਲੇਛ ਧਾਨੁ ਲੇ ਪੂਜਹਿ ਪੁਰਾਣੁ ॥ मलेछ धानु ले पूजहि पुराणु ॥ Malecẖẖ ḏẖān le pūjėh purāṇ. Accepting bread from the Muslim rulers, they still worship the Puraanas. ਅਭਾਖਿਆ ਕਾ ਕੁਠਾ ਬਕਰਾ ਖਾਣਾ ॥ अभाखिआ का कुठा बकरा खाणा ॥ Abẖākẖi▫ā kā kuṯẖā bakrā kẖāṇā. They eat the meat of the goats, killed after the Muslim prayers are read over them, ਚਉਕੇ ਉਪਰਿ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ॥ चउके उपरि किसै न जाणा ॥ Cẖa▫uke upar kisai na jāṇā. but they do not allow anyone else to enter their kitchen areas. ਦੇ ਕੈ ਚਉਕਾ ਕਢੀ ਕਾਰ ॥ दे कै चउका कढी कार ॥ Ḏe kai cẖa▫ukā kadẖī kār. They draw lines around them, plastering the ground with cow-dung. ਉਪਰਿ ਆਇ ਬੈਠੇ ਕੂੜਿਆਰ ॥ उपरि आइ बैठे कूड़िआर ॥ Upar ā▫e baiṯẖe kūṛi▫ār. The false come and sit within them. ਮਤੁ ਭਿਟੈ ਵੇ ਮਤੁ ਭਿਟੈ ॥ मतु भिटै वे मतु भिटै ॥ Maṯ bẖitai ve maṯ bẖitai. They cry out, "Do not touch our food, ਇਹੁ ਅੰਨੁ ਅਸਾਡਾ ਫਿਟੈ ॥ इहु अंनु असाडा फिटै ॥ Ih ann asādā fitai. this food of ours will be polluted! ਤਨਿ ਫਿਟੈ ਫੇੜ ਕਰੇਨਿ ॥ तनि फिटै फेड़ करेनि ॥ Ŧan fitai feṛ karen. But with their polluted bodies, they commit evil deeds. ਮਨਿ ਜੂਠੈ ਚੁਲੀ ਭਰੇਨਿ ॥ मनि जूठै चुली भरेनि ॥ Man jūṯẖai cẖulī bẖaren. With filthy minds, they try to cleanse their mouths. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਚੁ ਧਿਆਈਐ ॥ कहु नानक सचु धिआईऐ ॥ Kaho Nānak sacẖ ḏẖi▫ā▫ī▫ai. Says Nanak, meditate on the True Lord. ਸੁਚਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਤਾ ਸਚੁ ਪਾਈਐ ॥੨॥ सुचि होवै ता सचु पाईऐ ॥२॥ Sucẖ hovai ṯā sacẖ pā▫ī▫ai. ||2|| If you are pure, you will obtain the True Lord. ||2|| look when people say you should shave or trim your beard, or cut your hair - then it is preaching is it not? Family members and friends etc...
  22. ipledgeblue

    Halal food

    Need to find the right kind of sangat like Nihang Singhs and other understanding groups. Does sikh council help in these things? I remember when they were asking tweeting everyone to support the sikh manifesto. When I mentioned halal, they seemed to have put it in a footnote somewhere. FOR SHAME!!! I am sandwiched between Slough and Southall areas, I see more sikhs preaching haircuts and shaving than those preaching to keep hair!
  23. DELETED-- This thread seems to be a repost, so go to this one: http://sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/81403-halal-food
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