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  1. What is this? What is going on? Anyone got any more info?
  2. The west is not a great place to be right now and this looks like its getting worse.
  3. Vaheguru It is interesting how there are no replies or comments to this post! What can we do about this? Any ideas? It seems these days we are only interested in slandering one another and questionning Bani. When issues such as this arise we seem to ignore them. As stated in the above post this is our history.
  4. Guru Granth Sahib Ji is Jaagdi Jot of the 10 Gurus. It is all about the respect for them. I know you put a disclaimer in but I am offended by some of your terminology. For some an Akhand Paath is not a punishment and they dont "suffer" whilst listening to Gurbani.
  5. This guy has recently appeared on a stage just before or after Dhunda in USA. This does not mean there is a link. He was also in East London (UK) recently I think at SIngh Sabha Seven Kings. Maybe Barking. Also I understand "parcharak" supported by Tiger Jatha was at this same Gurdwara. Maybe there is a link. It seems these Gurdwara Commitees need to be questionned. Why are they allowing these types on stages?
  6. This picture was put on facebook by missionary types. I am friends with one these and he put it up too. All this is being created by these people and a few others just jump on board more than ready to take down a Baba.
  7. I terms of the Gursikhs I know, there jeevan was transformed by meeting Baba Mann Singh. One Singh told me he was a sehajdhari Sikh and someone gave him a tape (in those days not everyone had cd players) to listen to. He played it and couldn't get enough of the parchaar. He said I just was drawn by the simple kirtan. He kept his Kesh and eventually took Amrit. He then took it upon himself to encourage others around him to stop drinking and smoking and turn to Sikhi. This Singh has a lot more sharda and pyar for Guru Granth Sahib Ji than most i know. He puts this down to Baba Mann Singh and the parchaar they do. I won't go into detail about any individual on here as it is not appropriate. I know of many others who were influenced by Baba Mann Singh's parchaar who have been involved in active Sikhi Parchaar and Panth Seva. akjbabbr talk for yourself...don't include me in your 'we'. Judging someone by far, or based on unproved allegations is something we all have to lose as Sikhs. His jeevan looks very good from where i stand and he has done far more than you for the Panth.
  8. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh I know a few Gursikhs who only came into Sikhi fold because of Baba Mann Singh ji. The parchaar is priceless. Many love their style of Parchaar. There is not many trying to convince Sikhs to take Amrit.
  9. This is true. Very few these days understand that Panth comes first and Jatha after. Many like to blame another Jatha/Sant for the problems of the Panth. As if their own is perfect/faultless. We need to have love for one another and realise that we are part of the same Panth. Because someone has different views from you does not make them wrong, or a bad Sikh. Gursikhs will have and show love to everyone, but many of us are constantly looking to bring others down due to our own budhi.
  10. I understand there is another Gurdwara which caught fire in Punjab. Guru Granth Sahib Ji were caught up in the fire. Why do these short circutis keep happening? Should someone not be responsible for this? Why don't Punjabis take responsibility for the security of a Gurdwara?
  11. These false allegations against Parcharaks are done to create disunity. Look how it is working on us. The typical situation of a 'sevadaar' who turned against the Baba is becoming normal. There is always 1 who gets tempted by Maya or maybe feels he wasn't given the respect or position he deserved within that jatha. Maybe feels he has to do the lowly tasks (surely any seva is seva?) but this guy feels he should have been doing something else. Maybe wants to be called the Baba himself (thats happend a few times). Or he falls out with the other Singhs and decideds to go and make allegations even if they are lies, but it doesn't matter as to him lying is ok as he feels hard done by. It has always worked on us. Traitors have many shapes and forms.
  12. Guru Granth Sahib Ji is our Guru. We will respect them as Jagdi jot. Baba Nand Singh Ji taught us how to do seva of Guru Sahib. How do show Satkaar.
  13. I make you right. Problem is decent people won't step forward. When our Parcharaks do like Baba Ranjit Singh then we have just seen what happens. So you end up with these fools who will call Maharaj a 'book'. Last time they put forward Prof Darshan sio to question Baba Ranjit Singh. Look what happend to him. I hope Sikh channel and its 2 presenters dont end up like profs darshan sio. They had my support until they over stepped the mark on this occasion. The only way to put it to rest is for Sikh channel to come out and openly apologise. Also it would be advisable for sikh channel to not give in to pressure from canadian/american sources as they are very mis-guided. Afterall who is paying for the channels to run. is it canadians? Another Beadbi has been brought to light in america but they are quiet. They only wake up if it is something to do with babae.
  14. You are right panthicunity. Keeping Guru Sahib on shelves is another beadbi. Hence this topic.
  15. Please read the following article and spot the beadbi. This needs to be investigated. http://www.neontommy...on-punjab-india They are keeping table, harmoniums, and Guru Granth Sahib Ji in the basement of their shop on shelves. Please bear in mind they are trying to do a good thing but clearly making 1 big massive mistake. They need to be spoken to and educated in the correct manner. Maybe by some elders.
  16. Put this back in the general section please. i think we need to tell the americans and canadians that a Baba might be involved in this...then they might wake up and do something.
  17. It is a real shame people are saying this. I have spoken to a few people who are saying they are going to cancel their Direct debits too. The channels need sangat support. The general feeling is that Sikh channel is heading towards anti Dasam and anti Mahapurkh ways. This is not acceptable. I have had a couple of these conversations with people who are not pro Sant but I think the feeling is in general these channels need to be responsible and portray the correct messages. They are mediums of parchaar not toys for you or me to play with. We can't just go on blabbing what we feel like. There needs to be some accountability. Jumping to conclusions and judging people is not the role for a Sikh or Sikh Channel. It is easy to do character assasinations. The hard task is too keep unity. Seems the channels have taken the easy option. I think my direct debit will also be gone in the very near future.
  18. Why is this topic being moved? It should stay here to get full exposure. No one is replying as it is.
  19. You question why Sangat is mute? The problem is most of us are too busy trying to drag someone else down. It is interesting how many people are taking keen interest in some rubbish being made up and spread by an individual about a Parcahrak. We would rather be involved in this nindiya chugli than have to actually do something proactive and against Beadbi. It is interesting how many people including me comment on negative topics. But we just read and ignore this sort of topic. Sorry to go off topic. Back to topic. It seems the Maliks intentions are good. BUT that is as far as it goes. This independant article is saying that Guru Granth Sahib Ji is being kept on shelves in a basement! I think we need some Americans to get down there and take a closer look. He talks about Gurdwaras supporting them Maybe they can be questioned? Maybe you can invite some Canadian friends. They seem quite proactive to me. This is an important issue. Must be handled in the right way so that we educate everyone. This just goes to show how we are always learning. It is fine to keep tablas harmoniums and religious books in your basement BUT NOT Guru Granth Sahib Ji. This is their mistake and this must be explained to them. Also what is going on in shipping? Sorry to go off topic earlier.
  20. I would not normally write in a topic like this because it just adds fuel to the fire. But I just can't believe how naive some people are and also how ready some others are to pull down a Parcharak. We talk about unity but we jump on the first scrap we get to feed on. We should always look at our own Jeevans before pointing fingers at others. The presenters on Sikh Channel need to understand this. Some of the stuff becomes laughable. The following I cannot stop laughing at. A poster on here is now making the following points: He questions how many people are ready to take Amrit. He says in his opinion Amrit should not be allowed for anyone. We should undergo training and assessment. Brother a Parcharak's job is to do Parchaar and encourage Sangat to take Amrit. If we are inspired by a Parcharak or Singh/ Singhnee and take Amrit that is our choice. Taking Amrit is the begining. It is our jeevan and we must progress. We can't blame the Parcharak if we commit a kurehit later on. How many of us make mistakes? Probably all of us. This doesn't mean we should set up an A'level or do a Masters degree first...lol Why can't we be happy about someone doing Parchaar and helping spread Sikhi. Why do we need to try and find something and try pull them down. Is our intelligence level that low? We haven't seen anything with our own eyes and just heard one side of the story and we start to comment on here or ring up sikh channel and add fuel. Sikh Channel needs to be very cautious about false allegations about any Gursikh. It is wrong how they portrayed the show. I think it is good that Sangat tv (who i am not a fan of) allowed the other side of the story to be heard. It helped clear up the situation. I think it is good to respond to allegations. Sant Jarnail Singh Ji used to respond openly and any allegations. But then I guess us educated folk would say 'normally only the guilty react'. LOL
  21. It was well worth it. It only took 20 seconds. I'm not sure if you were drunk as I replied straight away. It probably seems like 2 hours when you are drunk.
  22. Don't worry 'hsisingh' no one is stopping you from drinking. Feel free. Three points: This is a Sikhi Forum This is not a 'stop drinking alcohol' thread You get a life
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