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Hindus most definitely do, they tend to be even more coconut than apne. Muslims will never do something like that though.

I wonder if the Sikhs in Dubai and Malaysia should give their kids names like Muhammad, Ahmed, Rahim? 'Old school', that sums up apna mentality. Names like Jordan are considered 'modrun' and regular Sikh names are considered old school (and out of fashion?) I've never heard goreh say names like Mark, Michael, Anthony, John are 'old school', despite them being around for centuries. The rot is really deep in our community.

Out of curiosity do you have a western name?

A name is important, it is a constant reminder of your background and culture. It's a big part of your identity. This is something even more important when you are a minority. Why do you think Goreh Sikhs change their names when they convert? There are plenty of short Indian names out there. At my school there was a girl called Kulwinderjit and the teachers could say it without much hassle. If people can say Tchaikovsky, they can say Kuljeet.

Socrates used to think slavery was perfectly normal. Not exactly the most enlightened person was he? Eastern philosophers like Confuscious and Buddha were much better.

100%. A lot of the names themselves sound pure chavvy as well - Jayden, Harvey, Tiana, Sienna. I don't feel like associating with such parents. There are plenty of short desi names that are easy to pronounce, I've chosen such a name. In fact I was worried that the name we chose might be too common but my wife has said his class will be full of Jaydens, Jordans, Camerons not Amars, Arjuns, Harmans! So giving your kid a western name is going to be very far from being unique.

I was blessed with a baby son a couple of weeks ago and gave him a nice desi name, it's also the name of a historical Sikh figure. My wife has been going to midwife appointments and she has seen the majority of apne our age (30s) have given their kids western names like Cameron, Jayden, Jordan, Kieran, Sienna, Tiana, Harvey, Cara, Kai, Keira, Emelia, Antonio. My former next door neighbours and my current neighbours have also done this and they both have khande logos on their cars. It's pathetic! Talk about being confused! What is the logic? I understand that the apne who grew up in the 60s and 70s had English nicknames as the goreh couldn't pronounce them but it's 2020 and they can now pronounce them. You will always be a brown Indian, you can never escape that no matter what you call yourself. Even worse is that some are giving their kids muslim sounding names like Armaan and Anaya. We really are a pathetic kaum. Sure it's good to take good aspects of Western culture but you should always keep your name! The goreh were in Punjab for 100 years but I never saw one of them named Balwinder Smith! This has been a big shock to me and I wonder what the future holds for us.

You can say they are equally as bad. A smoker who passes on the smoke to his children is also a fool.

From what I've read they only drink cannabis, not smoke it. The drink is called Sukha. What makes smoking worse than drinking is the stench it leaves behind long after the act is done and it also infects the people around who are not taking part.

Growing up, smoking was considered one the most disgusting things a Sikh could do, far worse than drinking. It was seen as something strictly only done by muslims and hindus. Only the most ghatia Sikhs would smoke. Sadly it seems to be more accepted in our society nowadays.

He did some very good things for us but was out of his element as well when it came to some issues. He encouraged us to fight back against muslim aggression during partition. He also managed to get us a state in India where we are the majority. These are two very important things. Had these two things not been done we would be speaking and writing in Urdu or Hindi today instead of Gurmukhi Punjabi. Even with his efforts Punjabi language is always under threat from Hindi due to Punjabi Hindus. You can imagine what it would be like without him. His main negative was his education level. The likes of Jinnah, Nehru and Gandhi went to Oxford/Cambridge and UCL and had high ranking jobs. Tara Singh on the other hand was just a high school teacher. He couldn't compete with Jinnah, Nehru and Gandhi when it came to big matters. All in all I would say that he was a great man. It's easy to be negative and criticise someone but it takes a bigger man to appreciate when someone has done good things and achieved a lot. As for him being a Hindu agent, why would he go on hunger strike to get a Punjabi language state formed, something that infuriarated Punjabi Hindus! There were riots between Sikhs and Hindus during this movement.

what an evil man, its a shame that he never got the same treatment as Indira did from us

A simple Google search could have told you that he died in 2017. It would have taken less time to do that than write your comment.

That's like saying a broken leg is better than a broken back. All music and movie industries are sleazy with tales of casting couches (both female and male) and drug addiction. I visited Los Angeles once and saw loads of failed wannabes on the streets high on Meth. Very sad to see. Having said that Sikh run institutions are less sleazy than Hindu and Muslim ones. Our religion promotes equality between the two genders and between different ethnicities and religions. I know very few apne follow that but the fact that it is there in scripture does have somewhat of an impact on the wider Sikh community.

Why didn't Sikhi take off in cities? Are we just a bunch of villagers?

keep playing the victim your whole life and never take responsibility.

And that is why they are disproportionately in high numbers in jail, high numbers of unemployment, high numbers involved in grooming gangs and terrorism. All of these are a result of them not integrating and bringing their backwards thinking here. Yes keep respecting them for that.

I'm out of touch with these sul nutters, I just remember wasters from 5 years ago like Dawah Man, Ali Dawah with their high pitched unintelligible voices and also that giant touchy feely Hijab. I'm sure all of these guys are on benefits.

? more like Dawah Man.

Horses are the greatest animals. Gentle, fast and very strong. No other animal has done as much for humans and our development as horses have.

There's a difference between going somewhere as conquerors and going as beggers.

Partition was good for us in the long run. Muslims were just under 50% of the population of Amritsar and they also had a huge population in Jalandhar. They were the biggest religious group in Punjab and in a democracy numbers count. Had there been no partition we would be speaking Urdu and writing in that curly Arabic script. We at least have a small state in India where we are barely the majority. I'm annoyed that the Hindus timidly let so many Muslims stay behind in places like UP and Bihar and those muslims are now settling in Punjab.

Savage suls, when will our people ever learn that we should never support them on any issue.

This is still very low compared to most developed countries.

Yes but if you give and those people then backstab you then the natural reaction is to stop giving. Only a fool would do otherwise.