On 12/27/2021 at 9:00 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

Could you post that please even though I can't read it all yet?

http://www.discoversikhism.com/sikh_library/gurmukhi/gurmat_sangeet_darpan_part_1.html

21 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Yes but the list continues, and includes a girl he married only to protect her from others.  There is a different name for it, it's not Mehla. 

I don't have to be the one to rip off the colonial bandaid and tell you that a specific and rightous version of polygamy exists in Purtan Gursikhi do I?

1 hour ago, GurjantGnostic said:

So western music is teentaal basically. 16 beats. Especially electronic. So whichever Ang are to that, it's easier to get premade drum tracks. 

In raag kirtan, we can have taals that are 11 beats, 7 beats, 9 and a half beats, ext. There are also partaals where we switch beats for different antras, so for example, the asthaee and the shabad can be played in jhap Taal (10 beats) in vilambit, same with the first two antra, but the next two antra can be played in ek Taal in dugun, and the next two can be played in teen Taal, also in dugun speed.

12 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I'm not trying to hate. But I'm not sure harmonium is doing us any favors. It may in fact be damaging Kirtan but I won't say that until I understand this a little better. 

And what I mean by this, is so far I've yet to find anyone, who is talking about playing Raag Kirtan without using a harmonium and the concept of western scales in music. Like I guess if the number of tones or semi tones you skip is the same you could use the western scales, but.. shouldn't there be..a..Raag version? A Raag way of expressing it?

I use harmonioum to learn a bandish and to guide my voice when I can't hit the write sur. Raag kirtan sounds much better on other saaj, like dilruba, Taus, rabab, ext.

I've got an online copy of gurmat Sangeeta darpan, but it's all in Punjabi. It has different bandishes and information on different raag.

If you want to get better at singing raag kirtan, practice the Sur saa a couple of minutes before ryaaz. From what I know, the saa can be changed from 1st black to 4th black on the harmonium, depends on how deep your voice is. 

Try finding raag kirtan lessons in your area, having a good ustaad really helps,

3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Which wokeys are those?

You know you all are using woke wrong right? But I guess that's most the web now. 

That's a really convenient word to be misappropriated. 

Yeah I know, but the original term woke has kind of lost it's meaning. The wokeys I'm talking about are those non-binary 500 billion genders and those women are always victims and all men are misogonysts and how men have no problems in life and those f the patriarchy and f all white people. 

Bit off topic here but I had a Kerala Christian mate, who's one of those wokes, telling me that she thinks Islam is the most progressive religion out there. I was obviously like wt f, how? they don't even let their women talk, and she started blaming it all on the culture and how that's now Islam. Apparently lots of other people think the same.

I'm generally confused why moosewala would need to join congress. What does he gain from it? From what I have seen on instagram, he's lost a lot of fans. I saw a video of this bloke unfollowing sidhu moosewala from 9 different insta accounts on different phones. On social media and stuff, a lot of people are going against him, which is nice to see. He's only 28, still had a good couple of years as a singer left in him. 

1 hour ago, S1ngh said:

All reality tv shows are basically not reality at all. Completely staged to the core and making fool of every1 everywhere. 

Obviously, still somewhat entertaining. 

47 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

But you still watch it ?! 
to laugh at their idiocy…

That's part of the reason. I watch it with a few mates and observe behaviour.

Just now, dallysingh101 said:

Flippin hell. Not exactly pushing yourself are you. lol!

"Oh no, I'm not addicted to this garbage, I can miss a season now and then."

Nah I've cut back a lot. And I'm not 100% invested when I am watching, normally watching half of it. The people on that show are just another level of idiots though. 

1 minute ago, dallysingh101 said:

Females are straight weirdos when it comes to reality TV. They are like hypnotised. lol

I agree. 

I'm not too bad when compared to others, I can skip a season and be fine with it, did it this year with the bachelor.

8 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

You don't want to put that crap in your head. 

It doesn't affect me that much. Recently, I havn't been watching properly, normally do homework or other stuff while watching it. 

8 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

You need better hobbies. 

I do. I play footy, exercise, learn kirtan on dilruba and harmonium. Reality tv is something on a 7:30 weekday night while doing something else. 

41 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

I watched a few mins of Married at First Sight Australia, which they show here on cable/satellite TV.... I have spent (wasted) a lot of my time over the years watching Neighbours also 

Married at first sight is literally a Trainwreck, which why I've wasted so many hours in February and March all those years watching it.

3 hours ago, Premi5 said:

You watched it then ?

I was bored in lockdown, gave up after around 6 episodes though.

I watch the Australian version of this show, and a lot of other Australian reality tv, not something that I'm proud of. 

On 11/15/2021 at 2:53 AM, Premi5 said:

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/a-vegemite-paratha-is-this-punjabi-australian-couple-s-favourite-dish

 

A Vegemite Paratha is this Punjabi-Australian couple's favourite dish

 

Mecca Gill, Gursehajbir Singh Gill and Sherbir Singh Gill Source: Supplied

The Gill family has become quite a star on social media and their pictures often garner hundreds of likes within hours of being posted.

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Sherbir Singh Gill and Mecca Gill have been married for over three years, but it most certainly was not love at first sight.

31-year-old Gill who arrived in Australia from the northern state of Punjab in the year 2014, on a student visa, met his future wife "by chance" when he moved into a shared accommodation in Melbourne where she was staying with another friend.

“For the first few months, we literally didn’t speak to each other at all despite living in adjoining rooms,” Mr Gill told SBS Punjabi.

“I would stay locked up in my room and do my path, while Mecca would be out there chilling with her friends.”

 

A love story which most certainly was 'not' love at first sight

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So what changed?

“What really broke the ice was a cup of tea that I would make for everyone in the house every morning before heading out to college.”

“So one day, she stopped and asked me, “Why do you go to such lengths when you know that I don’t drink tea at all?””

“I told her that our Guru Nanak Dev ji taught us to ‘share what you have’ and that’s exactly what I follow,” recalled Mr Gill as what he told Mecca at that time.

And that is all it took Mr Gill to melt Mecca’s heart but the picture was far from complete. The climax came when he decided to introduce her to his parents.

“I just took her to a beach, facetimed my parents, flipped the camera towards Mecca and told them ‘she is the one’.”

"All hell broke loose at my family home in Amritsar", reminisced Mr Gill who said that his parents were initially "shocked" but it took a little “sister meddling” to pacify them.

“It was my younger sister Preet who came to our rescue. And gradually my parents softened to Mecca and accepted our match, but not without conditions.”

“They asked us to solemnize the marriage according to the Sikh tradition before continuing to stay under one roof,” Mr Gill told.

The Gills have been happily married for over three years

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Now Sherbir and Mecca, who have recently shifted to Perth are “happily” married and proud parents to their one-year-old boy, Gursehajbir Singh Gill who is learning to fold hands and say Sat Sri Akal.

“He will get there,” hopes Mr Gill who feels he has lucked out to get a partner like Mecca who is trying hard to endorse his way of life.

“I feel so lucky. Mecca is endorsing Sikhism, she is learning Punjabi, my son has started to wear a patka, what more can you ask from life,” said an emotional Mr Gill.

When we asked Mrs Gill how life has changed after marriage, pat came the answer-“life is beautiful,” she said with a smile worth millions.

 

There are some undeniable differences, the couple agreed, but they have found their own way to bridge the gaps, with love.

“For instance, he likes parathas, I like Vegemite, so we have invented the ‘Vegemite parathas’,” said the proud Mrs Gill who claims to have mastered the art of Punjabi cooking while Mr Singh does what Punjabis are best at-no points for guessing, “eating.”

“I was a healthy 83 kgs when we got married, now I am lurking somewhere at a 114 kgs,” shared Mr Gill who is almost “regretting” the fact that Mecca has discovered the secret passage to his heart is indeed via the stomach.

The ‘happy family’ has become quite a star on social media and their pictures often garner hundreds of likes within hours of being posted.                         

The family of three is now looking forward to visiting Punjab, later this year to reunite with the extended Gill clan and visit the Golden Temple in Amritsar.

But until that time, the couple is hoping their son learns to say a little more than “nahiiii” (no) in Punjabi which happens to have become his favourite word, of late.

“There’s only one Punjabi word that Sehaj has picked up and that is ‘nahiiii’ (no) or if I say “aaja put” (come here, son) he understands that this means papa is calling me,” said Mr Gill.

Vegemite and parontha are amazing on their own. No need to put them together, that's just gross.

I have no problem with interacial marriages. Who gives if one of them is asian or black or white or anything in between. As long as they're sikh, and they're gonna raise their kids sikh, that's all that matters.

I'm a jatt and my parents never forced this caste pride in me. I only found out that I was a jatt when I was 7 and I heard about the caste system and I wanted to know. Looking at the punjabi media, there's a lot of jatt pride and that stuff. Really confused me cause what's so special about being a farmer. I asked my cousins about this and he said that it was to quiet down the kharku movement. Back in the late 70s and 80s and 90s, it was mostly rural sikhs who fought for sikhs, and a lot of them were jatts. So they needed the sikhi pride and kharku blood to die cause it was getting real and they needed something effective. It started with gurdaas maan who was a good friend of KPS gill with the bs we see today and the current people have continued it. Now it's the punjabi pride with the sharaab and other bs. My Khatri/Brahmin friend thought it was cool that I was a jatt and apparently she's jealous or something. 

There's nothing wrong with knowing your caste but saying that one in particular is superior or more useless in bs. I still don't get why anyone here gives a sh1t. Who cares if your great grandparents were famers or if yours were shoe makers, shouldn't matter in sikhi. 

I've gotten kirtan playlists made by youtube called Hindu music.

On 10/27/2021 at 6:16 PM, Premi5 said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10132311/Some-lesbians-feel-pressured-sex-trans-women-fears-branded-transphobic.html

 

Lesbians feel pressured into having sex with trans women over fears of being branded 'transphobic' while those who refuse face death threats, claim activists

• Lesbians claimed they get abuse if they do not wish to sleep with trans women
• Some claim they've been pressured to have sex with trans women with penises
• Transgender rights activists believe having genital preference is discriminatory 

By KATIE FEEHAN FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 15:48, 26 October 2021 | UPDATED: 05:30, 27 October 2021

 

 

Some lesbians claim they have faced accusations of transphobia and threats of violence if they admit they are not attracted to trans women.

Lesbians have spoken out and said they have at times felt pressured to have sex with trans women or coerced into accepting them as partners.

More than half of the 80 women who responded to a survey by campaigning group Get the L Out reported being pressured or coerced to accept a trans woman as a sexual partner.

Lol. So I guess they're all turning against each other.