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Also i hope these events that are happening open the eyes of those stupid indian Sikhs who tell us nri's about their so called brotherhood with a particular community in India.
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Just now, Kau89r8 said:
They already taken so much, what else is left..this is the final straw? You seen now with BSF? They want to squeeze our last breathe ..
I think it better if we help them escape India esp Sikhs. 1) Safer to practice Sikhi freedom speech. 2) jobs education 3) Increase population Khalsa ...build yourself economically in West more powerful ..
I dont see anything for panth there unless we want more bloodshed..we cant keep rotting in jails, dying, giving our heads
idky but i cannot leave punjab and forget about it because to me it is the land where our gurus originated from and spread the truth. It is like a part of my soul because i associate it with our gurus and religion just like Muslims have mecca as their holy land. I think we need to be clever and think about solutions . We did it in the past and i think we can do it again but we have to have faith and determination.
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3 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:
They already own the governments. That's why we see this push for the resources, air, land, water as their end game.
Of course corporations don't work without world bank so we know who's really trying to finish their invasion of this planet.
Yup we need to resist these corporations as much as possible. The greed for money makes people do unimaginable things. So many of these corporations can help with world hunger but why would they ? Their goal is not to benefit humans but to squeeze us for as much profit they can make . They dont care if our planet is destroyed as long as they make money.
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14 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:
Do you see any loopholes with farm laws? If they don't take back the laws, can there be a way to outsmart them and gain for the farmers?
Idk alot about the farm laws other than the msp scandal which i fully agree will be bad for farmers as i have no trust in corporations and we all know about the law and order in india but having our land under corporations is very dangerous. Once corporations control the source of food they control us humans. I am definitely not in favor of giving so much control to corporations as we all know their main goal is to make as much profit as possible at the expense of humans but someone on twitter was saying how since alot of young people from villages in punjab are moving out of india who will do the farming back home in the future.
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2 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Indeed. Living in america after investing everything in fighting the fork tongue devils.
wow lol I'm shocked. I thought you were punjabi by the way you talk since you have so much knowledge.
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45 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Amen bro.
you are irish?
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3 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:
Who was to trust our own? Capt aloo ?! The one who's bloodline is full or traitors or Badals lol
naah not those our community as a whole. people thought we would be fine in india so we trusted that we would be fine being under another group of people who have been forever trying to change our religion.
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2 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:
Our biggest mistake was trusting any other group other than our own. This is so strange. How is asking for a separate country being a terrorist. Do canadians call people from quebec or alberta terrorists because they want their own country?
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5 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:One man out of a tiny minority within a slightly bigger minority, lol. Time to accept that perhaps it's over from a collective perspective, and consider individual efforts for personal spiritual advancement? I continue repeating myself but India-based Sikhs are a lost cause. They're gone. They have two modes: either total Punjabiyat crassness and hedonism, or adherence to a surface level Sikhi that hasn't penetrated their inner selves. That's it. Those who buck these trends don't have enough numbers to make a difference.
Indian born sikhs are too damn materialistic and only think about money. They dont even care about their daughters marrying non sikhs. There was a documentary on youtube showing a sikh women married to a hindu and how she could not raise her child to be like a khalsa and lo and behold it had so many dislikes from hindus saying how this is anti hindu blah blah sikhs and hindus are same. Problem with indian born sikhs is they are too brainwashed into believing that they and hindus are the same so they dont see anything wrong in following anti sikh rituals or ending sikhi in their bloodline through marrying out. Fools i would say. Imagine having the gift of being born into sikhi and then throwing it away. I hate how hindus have to insert themselves into everything related to sikhs. We cant even make documentaries about our religion to teach our youth without these people always trying to tell us what is wrong and right.
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24 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:It's because they are sociopaths and are unable to think about anything but themselves. Organisations like that make sure they keep out people who are not like them (like the police in the UK), so I don't even think western born Sikhs should even bother. Even if SGPC did hire someone from out of the usual spectrum, it would just be tokenism to placate people, and they'd probably make sure the new guy doesn't rock the boat too much.
We have to start parallel ground level movements. I think this has already started. How far we can go, time will tell. I think we need to focus on regional strength where we have a few numbers. But it is hard to do, because people don't want to confront ugly truths about the community. As you alluded too, they'd rather live in the fantasy world of being a strong warrior (without even being anything like one), and have a stronger caste identity to a dharmic one.
It's not worth getting despondent, bibian can play a massive role in how they raise their kids so that they aren't like the previous lot.
The problem with us is our roots have become very weak because the previous generations did not pass on sikhi at all. I mean i see people who come to canada from villages in punjab and you can barely see any sikhi in them. I sometimes have no hope in them passing on sikhi to their kids who will be born here. My parents barely taught me anything about sikhi just made me memorise paath and told some stories. But sikhi is spritiual and cannot just be understood by memorizing paath. We need to understand what the paath that we are saying everyday means. What it is telling us and how to implement it in our lives. Thats where we fail because the parents dont know anything and only teach surface level stuff to kids who then think its all about rituals.We dont have strong roots anymore. Sikhi is not as easy as just believe in jesus and you are saved. You have to keep learning and evolving and understanding throughout your life. But when majority of these people are not emotionally intelligent you cant really expect them to be strong in sikhi because they barely understand it. I see my own aunt(father's sister) who barely teaches her kids anything about sikhi. When they were young she would make them memorize paath, telling names of gurus and stories( which is not bad) but the kids barely know what the paath that they say everyday means. And to top it all of my aunt herself probably doesnt understand what the paath says because her behavior is so anti sikh like including being obsessed with money, parent's property show off, drinking wine and thinking you are modern. Its so sad and is quite evident that she does not understand an iota of sikhi although she does read paath from gutka everyday. They have made it into rituals where you just read paath and god will help you. They dont understand anything. Im sometimes worried about my cousins because they live in alabama and im worried about them being targetted by those southern Christians. They are young right now like just teenagers and impressionable. Anytime i tell my aunt that what she does is againt sikhi they all laugh at me and say I'm too serious. how can you expect anything from such people?
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4 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:Are you sure about that? The same Western Sikhs that have been suppressing info of decades of sexual abuse within the religious community, or even perpetrating it themselves? Western Sikhs who, in order to cultivate a following among the gullible, claim they're reincarnations of legendary Sikh personalities? That's just two relatively recent examples of Western Sikhs proving they're unable to function within the limits of decency. Imagine if we were burdened with actual power within the panth. Think of the shenanigans that would kick-off then.
Bhai jagraj singh was western too and i think he had much more impact within the past few years than any of the sgpc people. We have bad apples too but then we have enough good apples who can help our community in numerous ways. SGPC and people back home are just sleeping. One problem with us is we do not know how to relate to non sikhs and i dont know why this is.
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Just now, GurjantGnostic said:
Democracy is both inherently flawed and for sale. It's not Purtan Gursikhi.
I was just thinking the other day how democracy in uneducated countries always backfires on minorities because the uneducated majority will always decide who will rule everyone. I mean if you have 1 intelligent person and 99 fools those 99 fools will decide the fate of everyone. How is this good in any way?
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24 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:
I think a large part of this is because they sell their wares really well, and I've seen a lot of people convert to these religions over the years. A lot of kaalay convert because they detest their history with white christians (and it is weird how they ignore their slavery by arabs, but I think it may be down to jumping on a perceived lesser evil, and also a side that they feel can give white supremacy a run for it's money). Plus if someone is christian, it's easier to convert to islam because they have overlap in terms of their mythology (same prophet lineages, angels etc). Also, for guys who come from criminal backgrounds, when they convert, they can get to still use their violent criminal tendencies to attack nonbelievers and be a good sullah. When it used to get confrontational in Southall in Vasaikhi with fundamental sullay, the brown sullay would always bring kalaay converts to hide behind (who were obviously criminal types before converting).
Also the church can be vibrant and fun from what I've heard, and this can be attractive to S. asians who are used to sombre deliveries of katha.
And let's be 100% frank, finding a partner is something that makes A LOT of people convert.
Welcoming vibes count for a lot.
Well, there is no excuse for this. SGPC has a massive budget. They aren't even bothering, and what they attempt is 'more of the same' that didn't even work previously.
Pendus cultural allergy to reading doesn't help either. A lot of us here in the diaspora have got our moorings/knowledge in this way, so we've circumvented any rot.
Pendus don't have a strong identity outside of a caste one.
Honestly how do these people get elected to sgpc? If western born sikhs become members of sgpc it would be so much better. So many of us here know the issues we face and can take decisions to combat them. We need intelligent people elected to the sgpc not uneducated fools. But i feel like the people who are elected to the sgpc are all under indian govt and that is why they dont do anything for sikhs. We are indirectly under their control.
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3 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:
Our people are the biggest L (sorrynotsorry)
Cant get more pathetic, losers, cucks then us
Literally. Man is used to feel proud of our people's strength now i realize whats the use of having strength without the brains. Why are our people so obsessed to prove about how strong and warrior like they are. Indians are making a fool out of us . They sweet talk these fools into thinking how strong they are so you can die for them on the border while they sleep in their bed. Fools man of the highest order.
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2 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:
Wow they finally they woke up..
Wont get my hopes up too much, they wont do much
They are too useless. Just look at the scandals of the catholic church but they still try to get converts. We all know why but our lot are too stupid. Our people have no vision. They know more people = more power they hold but our lot are too busy in throwing away our money to others.
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On 7/21/2021 at 10:22 AM, dallysingh101 said:
And it's one set of pendu that are the worst for this. They need to be called out and cussed off regularly.
but i dont understand this. White christians are racist too and so are arab muslims but blacks and south asians still become christians even after history of enslavement why? Its all because of money. They pay people money and benefits to change their religion. And most people are more worried about filling their stomach than caring about spirituality which is why our guru started langar because he knew how can humans focus on spirituality when their stomachs are empty. These people do not care about spirituality or the truth . They only care about benefits dont we all do which is why we came to the west? Very very very few people in this world are spiritually strong who will not stop believing in the truth for any amount of worldly desires. Now your avg pendu is not gonna be spiritually enlightened are they?
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On 7/21/2021 at 9:47 AM, ChardikalaUK said:
If you treat people like dirt then this is what happens. Sikhi was meant to end the caste system or at least make everyone equal. Almost 600 years later it still hasn't done it.
White christians treat black Christians like dirt including burning their churches and enslaving them but blacks still become Christians even in africa. Why dont they all leave Christianity and convert to another religion then?Same way arabs are so racist to south asian muslims and black muslims. Its just excuses. How can discrimination by some mere mortal human make you stop believing in your god.These people dont know anything about sikhi and thats why they will go wherever they get benefits.
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3 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:
You've got to laugh at these UP Muslims saying that the Sikh farmers want Khalistan. It was the UP Muslims who started the demand for Pakistan, Karachi is full of them.
I wonder what ravi singh will say about this since he thinks muslims are saints. He forgets that in 1984 alot of these mulims were helping hindus in killing sikhs. All these people are bad hindus muslims christians idc. Only think about your own. They all have hatred for us because we follow akaal purakh's true words. We are in very deep trouble because of this dil saaf nonsense.
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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:
But they consider themselves to be some of the most street-smart and clued-up people on this planet. They think we're moral degenerates just for existing in the West. Surely they should have some solutions to the predicaments facing them? They get very annoyed when us NRIs offer suggestions for the issues facing them. They say we have no right to interfere in their problems when we're sitting in foreign countries. So why are you getting upset? Let these big-brain Singhs and Kaurs tackle their problems head-on. They've got it all under control.
have you seen the behaviour of the so called sikhs that come from punjab? No offence but i think sikhs in the west know more about sikhi than these people . I dont see an iota of sikhi in the behaviour of those coming from punjab. i dont wanna judge but ive been observing their behaviour and the way they act is so not sikh like. So weird that people say sikhs in punjab have more knowledge.
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3 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:
This is the problem with our community. We are just a bunch of villagers. Economies are not run by villages. We should be living in and dominating cities.
All major cities in Punjab have a Hindu majority, even our holiest city Amritsar. It's a joke.
All this is our own fault.We are too nice to people thinking that being nice is the right thing to do but we dont undertstand that being nice has resulted in us being taken advantage of. Thats why when i see our people wasting sikh resources on others i want to slap them. They dont understand when sikhs will face poverty none of these people are going to come help us. We are literally at our own and hated from all sides. Fools are wasting away our resources. But no dil saafs will say did guru ji say only help sikhs. Oh man you think those oil rich 2 billion people need your help seriously? I think all these ravi singh types do this stuff because it gains them more popularity helping people who have higher population than it does when they are helping sikhs because we are low in numbers. Man these people are so stupid.
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1 hour ago, Kau89r8 said:They truly are something else. This farmers protest i think had opened well hopefully many apnye eyes especially those who believed in the 'facade' dharmic brotherhood. Honestly i hate myself being this i dont want to be this poisonous but when i see them social media i cant stop having this deep hatred take over me. They wish us 84 constantly seethe us with things like we need indra ghandi, kps gill they are nasty piece of work.
Then they will tell you Sikh Gurus were 'HiNdus' constantly twisting our history
That how they win votes in Panjab when they bring their 'sikhs terrorists killed 300000000000 hindus' in 80 90s. Really hurts me why we couldn't get our own country...i dont think it would have been possible with our population being the lowest despite majority Sikh rule. They always had the upper hand economically. Indra favored them brahmina for business deals whilst we are just good beingsoliders for India.
My mum told me, that after 84, the hindus in the pind who they'd been friends like family basically would tease them saying things like 'hahah our mother (indra) killed your father (Sant ji) etc They would hand our ladoos and dance.
Also most bollywood these Panjabi hindus like kapoors, kumars, etc how they milk our culture and then make films about us being 'funny sardars' esp 80s 90s.
There are few that are nice but not enough to make you feel' its only some of them vast majority are not like that dont represent the population'.
South indians seem to be nice from my experience, but then again best be cautious. They will be Hindus first. Sikhs were killed in South India during 84. Always be wary.
Too bad our patrotic Indian 'Sikhs' will always be sheep. Worst enemy is our own.
They have done as much harm to us as muslims . They are snakes. We are not poisonous people. We can clearly see what they are doing to us. I dont give a damn about hindus. Sikhs first should only be our goal. I hate those sikh women who marry hindu men in punjab. Like wth! Imagine wanting to end sikhi in your bloodline, the same sikhi that gave you so many rights. I just cant. Its all the fault of grandparents generation for not teaching sikhi to their kids. I mean like literally 90% of them dont know anything about sikhi. If we had our own country we would be so much better. Right now we are in deep trouble and some apne are just living in fantasy land smh.
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22 minutes ago, Jai Tegang! said:
^^^
It solves a few problems doesn’t it. Sikhs get to channel their warrior energies for india’s security. Getting killed by islamists helps keep the cross-border bhaichaara in check. More sikhs getting killed doesn’t hurt to lower the demographics of these pesky “jarai pesha kaum” aka criminal tribe.
When will our foolish community wake up! Literally writing their own demise. SMH.
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27 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:our people are such fools!! literally ending themsleves by joining an army of a country that has no interests of sikhs. Fools!
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45 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:You hit the nail with what you said. This level of thinking wish others in our kaum will have. Truth with Hindus in Panjab they are very sly they will never want to be under Sikh nation and there is huge % of them. However we are in no position as the Jews sis. lol We got breadcrumbs and India with brahmin power, economically politically and army its going to be tough. Esp with of 'Sikh leaders' We cant really go through another bloodshed. Take a look at Forbes India list. You will only see hindus. In Panjab you know who the richest are, Hindus lol They even in the Forbes list hindu panjabis billionaires. This is why i think we are better is west. They will kills us off over there esp being the little man. Here we stilll have law and order. I think if try to become financially successful, help the poor Sikhs build schools education, invest in panthic projects and spread Sikhi like islam does, it will be a snowball effect imo Problem with our kaum is we are so divided and have no clear vision like where do we see ourselves a panth in 5 years-10 years? Whats our goal. We need to be in the same boat somewhat if we see Khalsa Raj.
Punjabi hindus are so dumb . I used to live in punjab and they would believe in every self styled godman in town as if they were gods lol what a joke. Right now they have this guy called guru ji or something and this guy mixes hindu scriptures and sikh scriptures and just gives lessons on them and these people believe he is some god incarnation. Such weird beliefs.And then our dumb lot will follow and do the same of worshipping these self styled godmen. I have seen some comments from apne on the posts like jai guruji and other nonsense. Why cant our people have any level of sense? Why they always follow the wrong behavior of others? And you are right they wont let us succeed in punjab they are evil af but still punjab is ours I can never imagine punjab in their hands. They dont speak our language follow our culture how can they have our land? Apne who think these people are our brothers are so naive i just cannot. Why are our people so gullible smh. The real punjab is in the villages where sikhs reside not these urban cities . We need to build our villages and also we need to have sikh enclaves so we have sikh majority areas. We can outnumber them if we increase our population like muslims do but no our useless lot are too dumb for it.
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Sikh Farmers MURDERED in Lakhimour Kheir,
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You can be as advanced as a country as you want but if your food source is controlled by a few then your people are at the mercy of those few. Without food their is no life unless you want to eat your smartphones.