BABBAR KHALISTANI

Bhai Sahib Bhai Hardeep_Singh This baba is a rapist and he has brainwashed thousands of people in following the wrong path. For example look what he has done to that poor girl, who he invited into his bedroom. He dressed as Guru Gobind Singh and distributed amrit the same way Guru jee did in 1699 and then asked for it himself. Then he advertised this in the local newspaper. Punjab is full of weak people, who want quick answers and then just go to any old baba and get naam or amrit. I think its 100% fantastic gursikhs have woken up and are protesting against him and maybe finish his cult off. This baba should appear at akal takht sahib and ask for forgivemess. You are saying that in Guru Jee times he would have been forigiven, yes you are right, HOWEVER lets look at an example such as Sajjan thug who killed people at his dera's and took their money and possessions. Then when Guru Jee cameto his dera to stay, Sajjan that day knew what he was doig was wrong. Guru Jee told himto follow the true PATH of gursikhi and give all your wealth away to the needy. From that day sajjan gave all his wealth away to the needy, begged for forgiveness and became a pooran gursikh of Guru Nanak Dev Jee. In camparison to the sakhi above, this fake saadh needs to appear at akaal takht sahib, give all his money/wealth away to the poor and tell his devotees to follow the true path of Guru Nanak. Then he should dedicate his life towards seva. this is highly unlikly he's full of egoand is so stubborn tht he's not even offering a full apology instead his chelas are justifying his acts on news channels.

Can't taksal and dhadrianwale etc support bittu's party sad(a) politically so that we can have panthic leaders in politics and oust badal?

He's ben handed over to police and he was definitely handed over to police dsp also confirmed that he was a security cop and they take thier pistols inside. The media tried to click his pic buh police prevented this and in all the drama or khich dhooh a mediapersons' camera broke.

God knows.......waiting for an update

Good job guys those who haven't voted do so. YES is already down to 59% from 69%

BREAKING NEWS FROM AKASH RADIO: Lots of gursikhs had gathered in parikarma of darbar sahib. Among the congregation there was a person in civil clotheswho had gun. The sangat came to know when gun fell on the floor frm him. As a result of that sangat beat him up badly and he disclosed tht he is on duty police officer. It is being established whether he inded is on duty or not.

Vote guys....it's gone down to 63.4% Do ur bit

These filthy cultists have pushed things beyond limits. First guru gobind singh ji's imitation and mockery , then assault on singhs and shaheedi of bhai kamaljeet singh and now this incident of trying to set saroop of holy sri guru granth sahib on fire. Still they are not ready for offering apology. ZERO TOLERENCE May waheguru bless us.

Even apology wud do nothing....what about those injured and shaheed kamaljeet singh ji? what about grave ninda of guru gobind singh ji done by him and his premis? this pakhandi nd his chelas can't get away easily by offering a mere verbal aplogy, Case has to be registered and he has to be banned in punjab otherwise theirs and other pakhandis' confidence wud rocket sky high. If apology if offered things wud go bak to normal and he wud again continue spreading his filth. Guru nindaks can't go scott free. Though i am not for his murder but he surely needs to banned and his deras need to be sealed but if some sikh kills him that wud also not be wrong. Hasn't it become often in past decades that whosoever wants he does ninda of gurus like lala jagat narayan, narakdharis, bhaniarawala, ashutush, pehowa trying to be incarnation of patshah, and now this <banned word filter activated> has gone a step ahead and even tried imitate the sacred amrit sanchaar. He shud be punished not only for sake of punishment but a detterent for others in future. Apology wud be a mockery.

NEWS INPUT FROM PANJAB RADIO: Dera's lucha sauda's activists in Nazpura village of bhathinda district attacked a granthi sahib's home set it on fire and tried to set sri guru granth sahib on fire. giani gave the information to whole village on loudspeaker after which the fire was controlled and no damage to sri guru granth sahib was done. If i heard it right there are 104 families in village who are associated with dera lucha sauda

I heard on radio that this akhand path thing in self made by us under influence of hindu rituals. We should be very careful in differentiang things that are gurmat traditions and those made by us under brahmanical influence like doing first barsi path of deceased in 11 th month. these practices also have hindu connexions.

Was a good debate though. Might change indians' opinion after all the media onslaught against sikhs. The host tried his best early on to support dera but the arguments bu sarna and co forced him to change his stance especially telling that media is biased. I feel this proved pretty much one sided in favour of sikhs coz the guy aditya had very lame excuses and the cbi inquiry issue and the mention of rape thing sank him. Good job sarna and co. Chardi kala.

Waheguru....the cbi investigation results against this papi sadh are also gonna be out on april 25. Maybe downfall of his regime??? Waheguru bhali kare, chardi kala bakshe

They are congress backed, wanted to hamper badal's govt and get pres rule. But sadly things have taken an ugly turn,sikhs are outraged and the trick has backfired.

Most importantly they are making valid points like media presenting false pic of sikhs in front of whole nation. The <banned word filter activated> aditya is making very weak arguments. No basis.

I am watching the debate. Well done sarna Go on go on. Well done guys are making valid points like media discrimination etc.

Waheguru.......history repeats itself doesn't it? Lets hope these events wake us up and lead us to our ultimate aim. Waheguru bhali kare!!!!

All respects to him. Heartfelt sympathies to his family. But singhs such as him are blessed with martyrdom. Not all are privileged to stand among shaheeds. May waheguru bless scumbags like me wiv the same sewa.

The media as usual is truly doing a great service to bharat mata in tarnishing the image of sikhs and misleading the public. Shame. Almost all the dailies and news channels speak the same language and we must realise it's actually indian govt, deras and media vs sikhs. Even the premier newspaper of north india THE TRIBUNE is cricticising hardliners. The editorial is really biased and is simply targetted to defame sikh hardliners. http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070519/edit.htm#1 Isolate militants Punjab can’t afford to relive the past AN alarming aspect of the ugly goings-on in Punjab vis-à-vis Dera Sacha Sauda and the Sikhs is the rise of the militant voice. In fact, there is every reason to suspect that the hardliners on both sides are trying hard to hijack the agitation. It is they who are baying for blood and are making resolution of the problem increasingly difficult. Even in the high-pitched war cry from both sides could be discerned the voice of the militant, be it in eulogising the fallen icons of militancy or questioning the authority of the established leaders of the community, one of whom was manhandled at Talwandi Sabo on Thursday. They find the vitiated atmosphere so congenial that they make bold to garland the statue of a leader, who helped contain militancy in the state, with pictures of his assassin. The manner in which they are emerging out of the woodworks to cash in on the unrest is indeed a matter of grave concern. Those who experienced the rigours of militancy in Punjab, from which the state is yet to come out fully, know only too well that it all began with a fight between the Sikhs and the Nirankaris. Small wonder that the militants, who at one time called the shots in Punjab and who have subsequently been discarded by the people because of their self-serving nature, find in the fight between the Dera and the Sikhs an opportunity to fish in troubled water. To allow them to succeed in the nefarious game is to allow the return of the gun-wielders who made life a nightmarish experience for the ordinary people. They can be expected to do everything possible to fan the fires of conflict and thereby subserve their vested interests. All political parties, social organisations and religious groups have to be conscious of the dangers of allowing the hardliners to exploit the situation to their advantage. They need to be isolated and dealt with so severely that they are unable to cause any damage to the social, political and religious fabric of Punjab. Militancy is a hydra-headed monster that can strike anywhere when it finds the situation favourable to it. The government cannot shy away from its responsibility of crushing it with all the might at its command. This also means that the government will make an earnest attempt to find an immediate settlement of the quasi-religious, quasi-political dispute in the best interest of peace in Punjab.

I suspect the same though i hope it's not true. Let's wait for investigations results to be out but it is really shameful especially sumone frm our community doing this. Let's hope she gets a just punishment and rots in jail and also serve a warning to other youth involved with wrong ppl. Sympathies with sana ali and her family. Rip.

Bloody westerners ...don't they know it's ok to have sex wiv girls aged 9 or more. Reason : prophet did so and so it's legal. it's called sunnah We need shariah.......lolz

Bloody biased news item...... shame on that mother and son who follow a self made sikhism and saying hair are not important and it's a matter of choice. Extremely well done to sarna and delhi gurdwara commitee....thats the way it should be.

We are simply do no parchar niether to our youth nor to outsiders. Niether we have international level parcharaks nor we have enough practicers. We need missionary kind of people not with a specific aim to convert but with an aim to educate others and spread the knowledge about sikh philosophy. About churches: recently on easter day desi radio talked to congratulate pastor of a church in midlands whose name was i think harbans. Obviously he was punjabi. All through his messege he told almost nothing about easter and a lot about "prabhu jesus" (prabhu in punjabi means god)and christianity. He was emphasising on the fact that we are never late in accepting jesus, he opened his eyes to reality quite late in his life but prabhu jesus loves us, he is forgiving and we should open our eyes to reality and acept jesus blah blah. It was kind of uncomfortable coz he siezed the opportunity and was unstoppable as he seemed quite desperate to brainwash people. And it seems all christian missionaries have the same tactics as he was also using panjabi terms as nijjer was misleading people by using terms like jesus is satguru etc. So we need to realise the gravity of problem and start doing something about it. http://www.likhari.org/xmas2.htm

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Nothing surprising ....all people who've sold themselves to bramans speak the same. But i feel pity for him on one issue which he might laugh at : the penny he owes to chauhan sahib. Chauhan sahib's no more nd this guy's in his nintys so he might not be around for too long (it's not that i wish for him) But how would this traitor full of ego be treated in the court of lord? Only waheguru knows in what way is he gonna make him pay that penny.