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  1. He underwent TANKHAH for going against the wishes of the Panth by taking part in the Kar Sewa as have the Nanaksar Babas. NOW explain to me whether they made a mistake by 1. Doing the Kar Sewa in 1984 against the wishes of the Panth or 2. Presenting themselves at Akal Takht to undergo TANKHAH Yours are the other kids here attempt to try and justify the disgraceful Kar Sewa done under the jackboot of the Indian army while those that did it accepted their mistake shows that the foolish followers and starry eyed kids are more dangerous than any of those who commit gaddari against the Panth.
  2. Sindhis love for Sikhi is legendary and we need to keep our links intact with them. Our only issue should be that any Durbar or Tikana where they have Parkash of Guru Granth Sahib should not contain any idols. Apart from that due to the fact that they are Sehajdhari Sikhs they should be allowed to have Anand Karaj and do Kirtan and Katha. Our history is replete with lost opportunities. In the 1830s Maharaja Ranjit Singh was contemplating annexing Sindh to his kingdom. The British engineered it such that he did not do so but the threat of the annexation bought many Sindhi Sehajdharis and Hindus to become Keshdharis at that time. It was felt that at any time Sindh would become a part of the Sikh kingdom and being a Sikh became a matter of prestige among the Sindhis a lot of whom were Nanakpanthis. Had the Sikh kingdom annexed Sindh and survived into present times, we would not have restricted Sikhi to being a majority Punjabi dharm. We would have had millions of Sindhi Sikhs who would have been Keshdhari rather than Sehajdhari and also we would have been the religion of the Hindi speaking Jaats of northern India because they always looked at the Sikh kingdom as a Jat kingdom, they would never have fallen for Arya Samaj like they did in the early 1900s. A lot of the non-Muslim population of Sindh especially bordering Rajasthan consists of Rajasthani origin Hindus called Bagris and sometimes Bheels who do not have any connection with Sikhi unlike the Sindhis. These people are also being attracted to Sikhi because Sikhi is the main religion of the non-Muslim Sindhis. They come on Yatra to Nankana Sahib and many have become Sikhs.
  3. Not really, only those who make a decision to embrace the urban lifestyle will become 'bhappa-fied' over a few generations, those who still keep their links strong with their villages and visit and stay in the village over some periods will still retain the rural toughness. I remember my Mama used to live in Ludhiana but he made sure that his three sons still went to his village and stayed there on many occasions. They were tough and they used to beat the urban Hindu types black and blue. In the end my Mama had to marry them abroad because he feared that they would become involved with the Kharkoos. I remember they always kept hockey sticks in their car.
  4. Every issue which has grown to threaten us has been self inflicted. Every manmat now current is Punjab from the rapist sadh to Christian missionaries to Muslim demographic jihad have all been self inflicted. We all a manmat to grown until it challenges us and then we struggle to contain it.
  5. Why are we not able to bring a government to power which will look after our interests just as the BJP govt looks after the interest of Hindus? Up until the 1990s, every Akali Govt apart from Badall's rule was from 1970-71 and 1977-80 were pro-Sikh governments. Barnala's rule in 1985-87 was seen as Sikh rule by the Punjabi Hindus because he released so many Sikh prisoners. Punjabi Hindus distributed sweets when he was bought down by Rajeev Gandhi in 1987. It is because we have no unity, we now expect every Punjab govt to be anti-Sikh whether it is Akali or Congress. Again the lack of strategy by Panthic Sikhs who allowed Badal to take control. Badal had to have a manifesto that promised that police would be punished for the fake encounters, Dharmi fauji would be rehabilitated in order to get power in 1997 but he reneged on it straight away. Why did the Panthic Sikhs trust him first of all and then why did they not bring him down and allow him to rule again from 2007-2017? Why have we allowed the Punjabi Hindu to dream of ruling Punjab when they are only 38% and yet we never think of power even though we are 58%? Because of liberalism we have gone for a small minority punching above it's weight like we did in pre-1947 Punjab to a majority lacking confidence to even aspire to have a pro-Sikh govt in Punjab. This is something we need to think about.
  6. These Christian missionaries were indirectly welcomed to Punjab because our fo.ols wanted to show how great we are by helping Christians against the Hindutvis. When that missionary gora Staines was murdered by the Hindutvis, the first thing our people did was stick their noses into the issue. We needed to keep out and defend our own people in Punjab but our lot were so stup.id that they tried to insinuate that the Hindutvis were trying to defame Sikhs because the murderer had the surname SINGH! The missionaries even went to Akal Takht to seek 'protection' This is the level of stupidity that our lot displayed which allowed the Christian missionaries to understand just how gullible our leadership is and they shifted their focus to target our people. It is a self inflicted wound and you cannot blame the Hindtuvis when our own people were the ones that allowed them to target Punjab. When the issue was still minor and manageable in 2009 we had people like Ravi Singh asking for daswand to save poor Sikhs from the crutches of these missionaries and what did he do with the money he got? He spent on 'humanitarian' aid! We need to look at our own shortcomings rather than just push all the blame to the Hindutvis. What power do the Hindutvis have to create a anti-conversion act in Punjab? Do you think a Congress, Akali or even AAP govt will bring this law in? No because they have all sold out and they care more for the few lakh Christian votes than the danger that these missionaries pose to Punjab. Because of the liberalism that we have allowed to infect our people, we have become so weak that any jannah khannah riots in Punjab and destroys public property. Look at the rapist sadh and his followers. Even the Christians rioted in Punjab when there was a rumour that someone had made a mocking poster of Jesus. They rioted in areas where they are only 5-10% Christians and they wanted to show their strength and that in a Sikh majority state they could riot with impunity. Who were the ones who confronted them and forced them to run for their lives, it was the Hindutvis. jesus caricature outrages christians in punjab - ucanews.com The Christian protesters looted shops and destroyed some motorcycles. Police and local people beat up this group. Then, a Hindu mob attacked two churches and burned another, all belonging to Protestant Churches. The police arrested many Christian youths. Father Kavumpuram said as soon as the Hindu radicals retaliated, leaders of the Christians protesting fled the scene We need to introspect on why it is that given that there is enough evidence in Punjab as there is the BJP ruled states of the inducement that missionaries are giving for converting the lower castes yet only in the BJP ruled states has an anti-conversion law been enacted. Why is it that we elect politicians that care more for 2 lakh Christian votes which cannot even tilt more than 1-2 seats in Punjab and yet they care less for the 10 million Sikh voters? There is no doubt that Hindutvis have attempted to infiltrate our institutions. But we need to wise up because we have elected politicians like the Badals who have opened the door to their infiltration. Why have the Panthic Sikhs failed so miserably to take the SGPC or other Sikh insitutions like the Akali Dal away from the Badals. You might think this is because the BJP is in power at the centre, but over 17 years of the Badal's tie up with the BJP there was Congress govts at the centre. Let us own up to our own failings as well.
  7. This happens everywhere. One of the main markers of 'modern living' is that the people contract out their right to self defence and their personal and family safety to the police and the state. This is how the elites have managed to make the people powerless. This is why in the USA, the liberals want to take away the right to gun ownership because they know an armed populace can never be beaten into submissive liberal types who the elites can control with ease. In the rural areas, the people tend to deal with any problems without the involvement of the state and the police.
  8. Their degradation has been occurring over the last few decades. They are not the same people prior to 1947. The ones you get in Delhi and other cities of northern India are descendants of the Khatris who moved from Rawalpindi to India in 1947. The ones in Rawalpindi were industrialists as well as police officials and army contractors for the British army in their cantonments in the area. As such they held gun permits due to the link with the police and army and being landlord types they along with the Hindus pretty much controlled Rawalpindi. This was the reason that they were able to hold off the Muslim league attacks on them in March 1947 in Rawalpindi city. The ones in the rural areas were either small shopkeepers in Muslim majority villages or lived in their small villages surrounded by larger Muslim villages. The Muslim league gundas having been held off and worsted by the well armed Sikhs and Hindus in Rawalpindi, they moved to the Sikh villages are attacked them instead. This was where the Rawalpindi massacres occurred which became a war cry for the Sikh Jathas in east Punjab in August 1947. The villagers were hopelessly outnumbered and they did attempt to fight back. Many of their women committed suicide by jumping into wells or were killed by their menfolk to prevent them being raped by the Muslims. When they migrated to India, the Sikh leadership did not have a strategy unlike the rural Sikhs from west Punjab to settle them in east Punjab and they gradually shifted to Delhi and the rest of northern India. This prevented us from achieving a majority in the urban areas of Punjab as well as creating 'hostages' for India to threaten if Sikhs fought for their rights. Being a small minority they intermarried with the Hindus who were also from the same areas of west Punjab. Gradually they have been becoming more and more degraded.
  9. In the area west of Ludhiana prior to 1947 the only Khatris both rural and urban were all Hindus. It is only after 1947 that these areas have seen a small number of Sikh Khatris settle in the small towns like Jagraon and Raikot. I remember Speaking to some elders who recalled their utter surprise after 1947 at discovering that there were such a thing as a Sikh shopkeepers
  10. We had our version of Hindtva long before the Hindus even came up with theirs. It was called PANTHIC SOCH. Unfortunately nowadays Panthic soch means being complicit in the demographic and love jihad against our own people. People like Ravi Singh and others of his ilk masquerading as Panthic are the ones who over the last 20 years have degraded Panthic soch into liberalism.
  11. This is no surprise. The surprising thing is that people ae actually surprised by this kind of mindset! The alignment of the liberals with the paedophile in Kashmir as well as the support he got from ALL of his community should have opened our eyes.
  12. Sometimes we need to show some intelligence and not go with the stereotype of being a people that cannot think ahead. Looking at an all India level, what do you think a Congress victory bring to India? They will reinforce their Muslim vote bank and that means more love jihad but with those fighting against it being the ones prosecuted. Just as the Democrats in the USA are complicit in allowing illegal immigration because it increases their voter base, so the Congress will allow more and more illegal immigration from Bangladesh which leads to an increase in the Muslims in Punjab. We need to consider who is the least worse for us on an all India level.
  13. The biggest moorakhs of all this are the Khalistanis. They make tall claims about being the defenders of Punjab but they more than the liberals have enable the Islamification of Punjab. I remember in either 1986/87 an Iranian secret operative working for the Iranian govt living in Chandigarh was trying to organise some sort of Muslim Shia revival in the area for which he was killed by the Kharkoos. Don't make the mistake of thinking today's Khalistanis could recognise a danger as much as the Kharkoos of the 1980s could.
  14. I know this will not be a popular opinion but as Sikhs we should at least be grateful that the BJP is in power rather than the Congress. These Congress s.cum would empower their Muslim vote bank like nothing we have seen. I just wish the BJP would deport the illegal Bangladeshis and Rohingyas out of India. At least this would cut the Muslim population of Punjab.
  15. Here is the bogus response to a PIL filed about Rohingyas in India, 261 Rohingya Muslims Residing In Punjab: State Submits Affidavit In SC (outlookindia.com) 261 only in Punjab is a definite lie meant to keep the population from knowing what is really happening there. But look at the affect of even these 261 Rohingyas in Punjab-; The Punjab government has further said Rohingyas residing in the state have been serving in slaughter houses and meat plants on daily wages. I suppose these people work in Jhatka meat shops? Nope, one Bimari leads to another Bimari. International organisations like UNHCR are quick to issue ID cards so that they can be treated as refugees and not sent back. Out of these 261 Rohingya Muslims, 191 are residing in Dera Bassi and 70 in village Handesra. Further, out of 261, 227 are in possession of United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) certificates. The same in the case of 34 Rohingyas could not be secured due to Covid-19 pandemic," the affidavit stated.
  16. The intention of the ISI is to change the demography of the areas which in 1947 had arge Muslim populations and which are close to Pakistan. Jammu and Punjab are their targets. This is why we need to speak out about this conspiracy to change the demography of Punjab, The people of Jammu are well aware of this and have been able to block this but our people are sleeping in Punjab not knowing what awaits them in the future.
  17. As they get more and more heat in the cow belt, I can see more and more of them choosing to settle in Punjab especially as our liberals have pushed the narrative of their being 'bacharay' victims and that it is our religious duty to help them. This suicidal narrative will bring about the destruction of Punjab if it is not nipped in the bud. You mentioned Jammu and Himachal, the people of these regions do not have the liberals we have and in Jammu the Rohingya who went there (no doubt under the ISI plan) to affect the demography were kicked out by the Hindutvis. Even a small community of 6,000 Rohingyas was enough to ring alarm bells in the Jammu area that understands how demography can be used to deprive them of the land, unfortunately our liberals are hell bent on helping the demographic jihad against Punjab.
  18. In Punjab if we manage to consolidate then we have no need to align there as along as we take care of the mischief inherent from having a minority of these people present in Punjab but across north India (where the vast majority of the confrontation will be) we will need to align with one side or the other. Being neutral will just ensure an attack from both sides. An alignment will need to occur if we want to gain something from the general chaos.
  19. So if Hindus call us Hindus then we become Hindus? Is our Niarapan that weak? So we should align with the side that has two groups that committed genocide on us, the Congress in 1984 and the Muslims in the 18th century?
  20. BIPRAN KI REET is taking on the rites and rituals of the Brahmins. Where in my post have I stated that we would be doing that?
  21. Hebrew was a dead language meaning it was only used for religious purposes and was not an everyday spoken language. A conscious effort was made to resurrect Hebrew into an everyday spoken language in Israel. This was successful, and all Jews now wanting to settle permanently in Israel have to study Hebrew as part of the settlement process.
  22. I am sure the once Bhai Hawara comes out of jail there will be great pressure on the SGPC to accept him as Jathedar. We need to be pragmatic, until that time if the SGPC and their appointed Jathedar can help our religion expand in the Jaat areas then what is wrong with that? We do not want the Jaats to get entangled in our present disputes which will only confuse them further. We need to present a united front because one of the things which they admire most about us is our unity. As for the SGPC Jathedar, personally I feel he is doing well, for one. his coming from a Dalit background was enough to counter the attempt by Hindus to paint the Sikhs as casteists who had murdered a Dalit in one of the camps. He has given good statements in both the Beadbi case and the arrest of Sikhs on trumped up charges of being terrorists. Let's give him his due. Until we have our real Jathedar, at least let us utilise the SGPC one for the betterment of the Panth.
  23. There is only a certain timeframe that we can stay neutral. At some stage we will need to pick a side. The Ravi Singhs on our side want us to to disregard the Muslim love jihad and settlement in Punjab and take their side, the Hindutvis regard us as Hindus, the extreme think we came into being to protect them and the less extreme think we are part of the Sanatan family along with the Jains and Buddhists. We have to decide on which side do we lose or gain? If Hindutvis want to keep their propaganda that we are Hindus then how many Sikhs have they actually convinced that this is the case in the last 70 years? A miniscule number and mainly those who want to gain power and influence. On the other hand what do we lose by aligning with the Liberals and Jihadis? The Congress committed genocide on us and the liberals stood by and cheered this on. Never forget that fact. With them we have the Muslims who persecuted us for over 150 years and their political opportunism took away our Gurdwaras and lands and made 40% of our people refugees overnight and killed over 2 lakhs of our population.. The ISI intention is now to target Punjab with a demographic offensive with the settlement of Gujjar and Bhaiya Muslims in Punjab. They have used the base of Malerkotla and the Congress has now turned that town which pre-1947 was not even a Muslim majority into a Muslim majority town and the district which the Congress created has not strengthened them further. They are just 3% in Punjab, wait until they are 10% and then see what happens to Punjab. The Sikh generation of pre-1947 Punjab could live with a large Muslim minority in their midst because there were no liberals among us. They had a no nonsense attitude to Muslims and the Muslims also knew this. We also have to look at our history, we have never aligned with the Muslims against any of their enemies because we have always understood what their ultimate aim is. It is only with the Liberals like Ravi Singh and others who are intent on an alliance with them and have turned building Mosques by useful idiots in our villages into a 'sewa' that this option has even come about.. The idiocy of Ravi Singh and his karobar Khalsa Aid in spending Sangat's donation to rebuild and repair Muslim shops burned down during the 2020 Delhi riots is the kind of steps we will see more of if there is a civil war. Ravi Singh types will want to continue depleting the wealth of the Panth and strengthening his favourite victim community. Look around Asia, the dharmic religions are taking on the Muslims after many years of looking the other way. Sri Lankan Buddhists and even Tamils now against Sri Lankan Muslims. Myanmar Buddhists against Rohingya Muslims. Thai Buddhists against Malay Muslims in their southern provinces. The Chinese communists against the Uygurs. In no other country is the 3rd minority community aligning with the 2nd minority community especially if they are Muslims against the majority in that country. The aim now should be consolidation. Rather than building up pointless 'langar' dispensing organisations, we should be trying to duplicate what the Hindutvis have done. We should have our own organisations fighting love jihad as the Hindus have in places like UP and Rajasthan. Youth need to organised in the villages and the towns. Just like the RSS can gather a large group at short notice whenever an incident occurs, we should be able to do the same. Just as the love jihadis have a network, we also need to have a network to defeat their nefarious activities.
  24. It's what I have always said, we need to keep our noses out of the Hindutvi- Muslim/Liberal upcoming civil war. If needs be we may need to support the Hindutvis because a Congress/Liberal run India would embolden the Jihadis and we will be swamped in Punjab by the Muslims because of our Sikh liberals who bend over backwards for them and support the building of Mosques in Punjab trying to undo our gains during partition. The two dangers that Punjab faces is the settlement of Muslims and the conversions to Christianity. The only party that has taken these on is the BJP. Those who we would have thought would be at the forefront of tackling these issues, the Khalistani/Sikh RW have been totally silent on these issues. The only person I have seen on Punjabi media raising questions about the Islamification of Punjab has been a mona BJP guy and he was shouted down by both the Liberals and the Sikh RW and the Congress. Just remember that the Congress and Liberals were quite prepared to commit a genocide of our people. Whatever the agenda of the BJP the fact is that they have managed to destroy the reputation of the sacred cows (no pun intended) of the Indian Liberalism like MK Gandhi and Nehru/Indira Gandhi This should be something that we should welcome because these were the people who revelled in the subjugation of our people. It is correct that there are Hindutvis who have tried to justify 1984 but this is not the majority and they could be the former liberals who are now running with the Hindutvis for their own reasons. One thing that we have to admire about the Hindutvis is that unlike us they have managed to insolate their liberals and the Hindutvis are now a majority in their population. The Hindu liberals are being marginalised with each passing year. Lately our people have also woken up to the reality of our liberals but we are a few years behind the total isolation of our liberals that the Hindutvis have achieved in their people.
  25. The irony is these Muslims are so outraged at women being offered for a fake auction ONLINE while their prophet and their religion has allowed the auction of women IN REAL LIFE for 1400 years. There are still slave auctions going on in Libya.
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