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    Bhai Tara Singh Vaan

    vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh There has been a post about this gem of the panth before (here), it was bumped up back in October. This (taken from here) is a more detailed account which I'd really recommend everyone read. The second part will be posted tomorrow. BACKGROUND Baba Banda Singh jee Bahadur got shaheed on June 08, 1716. After his shaheedi, despondency prevailed in Sikhs in general. The chardi kala singhs always stay in chardi kala but generally the Sikhs were very concerned about what was going on what the future held for them. A whole generation of Sikhs had gotten wiped out with and after Baba Banda Singh jee�s shaheedi. At that time (around 1726) still some Sikhs used to stay in villages and did kheti (farming). One of such chardi kala singh was Bhai Tara Singh jee Vaan. He lived in a village called Vaan in district Amritsar (then Lahore) of Punjab. Bhai Tara Singh jee was very chardi kala waaley Singh. His shaheedi is one of the greatest of all times in Sikhs. Brave and strong singh like him has never come again in this world. Fortunately history records the details of his shahidi and we today can get some idea of what he and the singhs with were like. BHAI TARA SINGH VAAN � HIS PERSONALITY Bhai Tara Singh jee Vaan was a fully rehitvaan, tyaar bar tyaar Singh. It is written in history that he used to wear only blue clothes and his body used to be full of shasters (weapons). He had great love for Gurbani and was found doing paath all the time. He had full faith in Guru Sahib and his concentration remained at the lotus feet of Guru Sahib. His bhagti had reached such level that anything he uttered came out true. His bachan never went waste because there was massive bhagtee of Naam and Gurbani behind him. Out of all warriors of that time, he was said to be the top one. He had no fear of death and was always prepared to die in the battlefield. Bhai Tara Singh built his bunga (house) like a fort and he always had 10-12 tyaar bar tyaar singhs with him. All singhs knew about Bhai Sahib jee and they used to stay at Bhai Tara Singh jee�s bunga while travelling. Singhs used to do farming together and any earnings they made used to go towards langar for singhs. Singhs living with Bhai Sahib used to do Gurbani paath all day long and when they were not doing paath together, they were doing shastar-abhyaas (martial arts practice). Some singhs out of the singhs staying with Bhai Sahib used to help him out with farming. Singhs used to come and leave but at any given time Bhai Sahib always had 10-12 singhs with him. START OF THE PROBLEM Not far from Bhai Tara Singh jee�s village Vaan, there is a village named Nashaura Pannu. In those days, the chauadhary of this village was a very egoistic and bully kind of person called Sahib Rai. He used push around other villagers and everyone was scared of him because he had friends with the Lahore government of Mughals. In that village two singhs lived with their families and they did farming there. Chauadhary Sahib Rai hated the singhs living in his village and never let go an opportunity to humiliate them. The chauadhary used to let his horses graze in the crops of the singhs. The singhs did no want to start a fight with him as they feared their families� safety but they were getting increasingly weary of his treatment of singhs. One day, the singhs saw the horses grazing in their fields and they could not take it anymore. They decided to talk to the Chauadhary about it. They went over to the chaudhary and told them about his horses grazing their fields. Listening to this, the chaudhary got very mad. He was a patient of haume rog (ego) and as thus he got more anger than normal. He threatened the singhs with dire consequences if they stopped his horses from grazing in their fields. The chaudhary then said to the singhs something that no one should dare say to a singh. He threatened them saying that he would cut their hair using urine, if they tried to touch his horses. Hearing this the singhs felt like volcano erupting from within. Their eyes turned red and they felt their biceps trembling with Bir Rass. They somehow managed to contain their emotions and came back without saying anything further to the Chaudhary. SINGHS TAKE AWAY CHAUDHARY�S HORSE The first thing the singhs did when they arrived home was packing up. They packed up and sent their wives along with their kids to their in-laws i.e. wife�s parent�s house. Then the singhs called upon Baghel Singh and Amar Singh for help. These two singhs were known warriors of their time. They discussed the problem and decided to get even with the chaudhary. They took away one of the horse of the Chaudhary that was grazing in their fields and travelled all night to arrive at Hari Ke Pattan (where Ravi Beas rivers meet). At Hari ke Pattan, Lakhmir Singh was waiting for them Bhai Baghel Singh and Bhai Amar Singh gave him the horse who sold the horse in Malwa region (across from Hari ke Pattan). The money that Lakhmir Singh earned as a result of selling the horse, was matha-tekked at the Bunga of Bhai Tara Singh Vaan. On the other hand when the chaudhary discovered that his horse was missing, he called in the khojee (detective) to track the lost horse. The khojee pointed finger at the singhs living in Chaudhary�s village. When the singhs heard that they had been indicted in the theft of the horse, they left their village and came to live with Bhai Tara Singh Vaan the great singh who had no fear of death. SAHIB RAI ARRIVES AT BHAI TARA SINGH�S BUNGA Following the singhs, Sahib Rai along with his private security guards, arrived at the bunga of Bhai Tara Singh jee Vaan. He came with full ego and angrily demanded Bhai Tara Singh jee to hand over his �thieves� to him. Bhai Tara Singh who was a fearless warrior, told him that the real thief was Sahib Rai himself as he used to let his horses graze in the singhs� fields, thereby stealing their crops. Hearing such answer, the stupid chaudhary, started using foul language with Bhai Tara Singh. Now Bhai Tara Singh did not tolerate too much of his rubbish and slapped him on his face. Then the other singhs beat up the security guards who tried to help the chaudhary. Bhai Tara Singh told Sahib Rai clearly that he was going to sacrifice his body fighting the Turks (Muslim rulers) and that he did not care about his life. Saying this he slapped the Chaudhary right, left and centre. The Chaudhary along with his security guards ran away from there crying. He felt few of his teeth missing and nose broken. THE CHAUDHARY ARRIVES AT PATTI RULER The chaudhary having humiliated like this in public arrived crying at the ruler of Patti, a small town near Siri Amritsar Sahib. There he told the administrator of Patti everything that had occurred with him. He told the ruler that while the Mughals were sleeping and lost in luxuries of life, Bhai Tara Singh Vaan was about to take over Lahore. He told many false thing about the singhs and prompted the ruler to send his army to capture Bhai Tara Singh jee and other singhs. The ruler asked the chaudhary, how many singhs were there at Bunga of Bhai Sahib. The chaudhary replied saying that the bunga did not have more than 20 singhs and that some have swords while others have spears. The ruler took the matter lightly but still sent 25 soldiers from cavalry (soldiers on horseback) and 80 from infantry (soldiers on foot). The order to the soldiers was to reach Bhai Tara Singh jee�s bunga during night time and to go slowly without making noise so that singhs do not escape. They wanted to capture the singhs alive and send them to Lahore for punishment. SOLDIERS ARRIVE AT VILLAGE VAAN TO CAPTURE SINGHS The government soldiers, about 100 in total, reached the outskirts of village Vaan just at amritvela. At that time Bhai Baghel Singh, one of the singhs present at Bhai Tara Singh jee�s bunga, was doing Gurbani paath. After ardaas, he went out to get some wood for preparation of degh. He had a sword and an axe in his hand. As he walked little distance from the bunga, he noticed a group of the imperial army. He wanted to go back and let the singhs know of the arrival of the army. At the same time he thought that if he went back, singhs were going to ask him why he came back without encountering the army. He feared that the singhs might think that he got scared. Thinking this, he moved forward and assured himself that once he starts fight with the army, the singhs would find out from the noise of battle. He moved forward and challenged the imperial army. As he moved forward, Sahib Rai the chaudhary recognized Baghel Singh and cried out to Hakim Khan the leader of the army, telling him that this singh � Baghel Singh was a big trouble-maker among the singhs and that he should not be allowed to escape. He said that this Singh � Baghel Singh was the thief who stole his horse and that if he gets killed, the singhs� strength will be reduced by half. Hearing this Hakim Khan quickly moved forward with his soldiers and Baghel Singh too jumped forward eagerly to fight off the army. It was quite dark as it was still amritvela. They tried to shoot him down with gun and arrows but he very quickly just entered the group of soldiers. In darkness, they could not find him, while he was right within them. He injured several and killed the nephew of Hakim Khan, before he was shot in the leg. Singhs in the bunga heard the gun shots and they too came out with weapons. They fought so valiantly that within few moments there were several dead and injured. Hakim Khan lost his vigour to fight after his nephew died and he pulled back and fled from there. The singhs won the first battle of Pind Vaan. SINGHS CHALK OUT STRATEGY FOR THE FUTURE After Hakim Khan left, some singhs came to Bhai Tara Singh jee Vaan and asked him to leave this place and not to enter direct confrontation with the imperial forces of Lahore Darbar. They said that they had made the point by beating up Chaudhary Sahib Rai and then beating the Patti force of 100 soldiers. They suggested that it would be prudent to leave this bunga and go somewhere else for some time and return later when the things cool down. Singh jee (as Bhai Tara Singh was addressed by singhs of that time) responded by telling them that he had no fear of death and had no attachment to this worldly body of his. He said that he had attachment with only one thing and that was Gurbaani/Naam. He said that he had received hukam to get shaheedi from Satguru himself (Jim kar Satgur daiyo hai bhaakh � Panth Parkaash). He further said that a true Singh never fears death. He said that he was going to get shaheed right there in the bunga and was not going to flee anywhere. After responding to those singhs, Singh jee (Bhai Tara Singh jee) addressed all the singhs present there and gave them choice to leave or stay. He said that ones who stay were going to get shaheed for sure. He said that ones who don�t leave right away would not be allowed to leave later. Hearing this about half of the singhs left but the other half who stayed were fully determined to get shaheed with their beloved jathedaar. Then Singh jee sent messages to other singhs throughout Punjab to inform them of his stand to get shaheed at his bunga and asked them if they wanted to join him in confronting the Turks (Muslims). Hearing this the top notch singhs from around Punjab came and joined their dear jathedar Bhai Tara Singh jee Vaan: Vasaava Singh and Kuyer Singh joined from Brahmanshaahi village. Samund Singh and Jhaad Singh joined Singh jee from Multan. Soora Singh who did wood work, decided to join Singh jee and get shaheed. Lakhmir Singh said his last fateh to his family and joined Singh jee. Ali Singh of Sandhu village and Gurbaksh Singh Bhalla joined Singh jee. Bheem Singh and Badal Singh or Ratoki village joined Singh jee to get shaheed. Megh Singh of Madra pind and Haata Singh of Chungo village joined Singh jee to get shaheed. Bulaaka Singh of Sanghan and Jodh Singh of Narovaal joined Singh jee to get shaheed. Bhogad Singh and Rasaal Singh of Peshawar joined Singh jee to get shaheed. They two decided that their time to join Guru Sahib for shaheedi had come now. Amar Singh the great warrior was already with Singh jee. This way in total 22 Singhs got together at the Bunga of Singh jee. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
  2. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh Taken from here. Bhai Nachhatar Singh Ji (Bhai Gurjant Singh Ji's Father) talking about his son in an interview: "Gurjant went his own way because he was a dedicated, devoted Sikh. How­ever, prior to 1984, an incident had taken place at Bibi Kahan Kaur gurdwara in Moga in which eight Sikhs were killed by the BSF and the CRPF. One of our elderly relatives had been helping with their bhogs, and thereafter the police picked him up and tortured him. Gurjant went underground at that time. I was arrested and sent to Ferozepur jail [he showed me the burn marks on his legs, the legacy of his stay there]. I was acquitted during Barnala's period in office. But after the Barnala government lost power, terror was let loose. All our family were beaten publicly and my brother was killed in custody while Gobind Ram was DSP here. For three years we couldn't come to our land or our house and none were allowed to rent the land either. We stayed with relations and the whole village took it in turn to give us our meals. The police had removed the hand pump and all our kitchen utensils and the tube well. Gurjant had only 1 and a half years' education but he had learned further while in jail. At Akali conferences he had come to know Kulwant Singh Khukhrana B.A. and they had become like brothers while underground. Later Manohar Singh Tira advised him. He had always been influenced by religious persons throughout his life and he was not the type to murder people indiscriminately. He thought that Hindus who speak Punjabi should be allowed to stay in Punjab. Only he wondered why those who participated in the massacres of 1984 were not punished. This is why the divide is deepening, he thought. He thought they are responsible for that deepening divide." The Jeevan of Bhai Gurjant Singh Budhsinghwala, second jathedhar of Khalistan Liberation Force Shaheed Bhai Gurjant Singh Budhsinghwala, son of Sardar Nashatar Singh & Mata Surjeet Kaur, was born in village Budhsinghwala, District Faridkot in 1964. Bhai Sahib's family had a common farmers living. Sikhi was flourishing in the family for generations. Gurjant Singh had three brothers and a sister, he was the third-eldest out of the sons. He only studied to the 5th grade and he had to leave his studies, as his family needed him to work, as they were not that well off. Bhai Sahib was religious from a young age and met Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindrawale on numerous occasions. He started helping around the house and started farming along with his brothers on the family farm. He never tired doing work and never lost faith whilst the family went through hardships, and remained always in Chardi Kala. The governments carnage reached the Moga area and the Bibi Kahn Kaur Gurdwara was surrounded by armed police, indiscriminate firing was opened on sangat and many were drenched in blood and attained Shaheedi, Bhai Sahibs paternal grandfather Bhai Kehar Singh was one of the Shaheeds of this incident. Bhai Sahib had much affection for his grandfather. The Shaheedi of his grandfather had a deep effect upon his tender heart at the age of 18 years. The government tyranny making its way throughout the Moga area, arrived at Bhai Sahibs village. Bhai Sahib was arrested and imprisoned in Firozpur jail for one and a half years. Bhai Sahib had just been released from jail when the police re-arrested him and his brother Bhai Jagroop Singh for murder. In the ensuing interrogations of the police both Bhai Sahib and his brother were tortured severely. When they were released after 8 days of torture, they both could not walk, they both got home in the evening. On the same night the police again entered their house and took their father, brother and paternal uncle into custody. Bhai Sahib after undergoing all this oppression and torture decided to live the life of serving the Panth and left his home, to protect and fight for the rights of the people of Panjab. A tornado of fighting for justice was invested within him, after undergoing torture and oppression at the hands of the authorities. From the outset Bhai Sahib worked alongside Bhai Varyam Singh Khapiawale - after his Shaheedi, Bhai Sahib worked under the leadership of Bhai Aroor Singh of KLF. Slowly, slowly Bhai Sahibs fame grew due to the missions he completed and the enemy started to fear for their safety. When the enemy used to hear the name of Bhai Sahib they used to shiver with fear. Bhai Sahib had undertaken the leadership of Khalistan Liberation Force, after the Shaheedi of Bhai Avtar Singh Brahma in 1987. Under Bhai Sahibs leadership KLF completed numerous successful missions and became one of the leading freedom fighting outfits. KLF was founded by Bhai Aroor Singh in 1986, Bhai Budhsinghwala was appointed Lieutenant General then, Bhai Budhsinghwala was the 3rd Chief of KLF. He was respected as the mastermind and most intelligent, Sikh freedom fighter. A Nihang who used to live in the same village as Bhai Sahib informed the police on numerous occasions of Bhai Sahibs actions and whereabouts. This informant helped the police arrest and torture Bhai Sahib on numerous occasions. Bhai Sahib was arrested and sent to Faridkot jail on one of these occasions. Upon release from jail - on bail, instead of going home, Bhai Sahib went directly to Shaheed Bhai Varyam Singh and became once again engrossed in seva. Bhai Sahib caught the Nihang informant and poured petrol over him and burnt him alive in the middle of the village. People of the surrounding area were happy and ecstatic at the elimination of this Nihang who caused much distress to the inhabitants of the locality. Bhai Sahib started bringing many oppressors to justice and the police started to repeatedly harass the family of Bhai Gurjant Singh. His brothers were severely tortured and subsequently jailed. Bhai Sahib's sister's (Bibi Gurcharan Kaur's) family were tortured and harassed on a number of occasions. To try to retract Bhai Sahib from his seva,the authorities used oppressive tactics of the worst kind. His paternal Uncle Chand Singh and paternal cousin Bhai Joga Singh were martyred in a fake police encounter. His mother, father, and brothers were also terrorised. But Bhai Sahib was steadfast and did not retract an inch from his resolve. After seeing the effectiveness of Bhai Gurjant Singh, the butcher D.G.P. Ribeiro got the most brutal S.H.O. Mith Singh appointed at the Bage Purane Police station, which was adjoining to Bhai Sahib's village in Thana Baga. The S.H.O made Bhai Sahib's family his target for meting out police brutality and being unjust, this brute got the front iron gate from Bhai Sahibs house removed and placed it at the police station. He humiliated Bhai Sahib's father by dragging him by the hair, in the heat of the Panjabi summer in front of the police station and made a public display of torturing Bhai Sahib's father. He challenged Bhai Sahib's father to "go get your tiger of a son to come and face me, face to face."Bhai Sahib learnt of the atrocities met out to his family, and after a while he made plans to avenge these evil actions. He along with his 3 associates Bhai Lakhvinder Singh Lakha village Dhole Ke, Ajmer Singh Lodhiwal and Bhai Darshan Singh Tarkhanbad, exterminated the S.H.O at the police station whilst he was under the guard of his bodyguards. After removing the S.H.O, Bhai Sahib and his associates fired at the police in the police station, but they locked themselves in out of fear and did not dare to return fire. Bhai Sahib and his associates left the police station at 7.30am with such calmness and braveness, no police official had the courage to even follow the Singh's after they left. The newly appointed S.H.O got the very same iron-gate reinstated at Bhai Sahib's house. Bhai Sahib put many oppressors to justice and he worked with Bhai Jarnail Singh Halwara (Longowal Kand), Varinder Singh Daka, Amar Singh Maan, Binderjeet Singh Dune ke, Manjeet Singh Mini Baba Moga, Amrik Singh Dune Ke, Kulvant Singh Kukrana, Gurmeet Singh Machaki, Manohar Singh Teera, whilst completing his missions. After the Shaheedi of Bhai Avtar Singh Brahma, Bhai Gurjant Singh was appointed the new commander in chief of KLF, Bhai Sahib and his associates eliminated the following oppressors: S.S.P Gobind Ram, S.S.P A.S.Brar - Patiala, S.P. Patiala - R.S Gill, S.P. Detective R.S.Tiwara, D.S.P Tara Chand Jagraon and in turn avenged the deaths of many Shaheeds.Bhai Sahib also seriously injured the following oppresors: D.G.P Mangat, S.S.P Sumedh Saini, S.P Kehar Singh. Other prominent successes of Bhai Sahib were the Panjab Congress Vice President Lala Bagvan Daas who was eliminated along with his bodyguards at Jaito, ex-treasurer Balwant Singh was eliminated in Chandigarh, Magistrate Goyal Moga was eliminated after getting his armed guards to surrender and he kidnapped the Romanian diplomat L. Radu and got the message across to the global media about the Sikh struggle and state oppression. The son of the S.S.P Des Raaj Sharma of Tarn Taran was kidnapped in order to get Bhai Sahib's associates freed from the police, this was the first time a hostage was taken for political demands in Panjab and Bhai Sahib's friends were freed. There was a bounty of 4 Lakh (400,000) Rupees upon his head. Bhai Sahib was the most wanted Sikh freedom fighter and he was believed to be the mastermind of many successful actions against the authorities. The Ludhiana police had received confirmed intelligence reports that Bhai Sahib and other freedom fighters were holding a meeting at Model town extension - in house no. 95. The police along with the assistance of the army at about 10pm surrounded the house and ordered the inhabitants of the house to open the gate, but the house owner replied that he had dignitaries in attendance. According to the police the Singh's tried to escape through the back of the house, but the police had already surrounded the house and opened fire on the Singhs, one Singh got injured in the firing. Bhai Budhsinghwala did once again try escaping but due to the heavy fire he was martyred in the exchange of fire. The police claimed in their press release that Bhai Sahib was martyred within the house but all other accounts of eyewitnesses said that Bhai Sahib was martyred about 50 meters from the house in an alleyway.This police operation was carried out by the S.S.P of Ludhiana 'Chotpadhiea' & D.S.P D.S.Gill. There were large engravements made upon the grass around the house - where the police had entrenched themselves. The police did not return Bhai Sahibs body to his relatives. Bhai Sahib was a freedom loving spirit who did not enter controversies with others and all Sikh Jathebandhis (Organisations) respected Bhai Sahib. Bhai Sahib used to speak very little, due to which he was able to command KLF for a relatively long time. Bhai Budhsinghwala was said to be wanted for 37 accomplished actions by the police. The people began to admire and respect Bhai Gurjant Singh more and more as time went by, as he was dead against thieves and robbery and he put numerous such thieves to justice.Bhai Sahib attained Shaheedi on 31st July 1992 at the age of 28 years. The Panth will never forget the service he rendered. Dhan Dhan Shaheed Bhai Gurjant Singh Ji Budhsinghwala. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
  3. lowest of the low singhni

    Eating Food With/prepared By Gursikhs Only?

    vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh Pesh is required for Bujjar Kurehits. These are listed in the Rehat Maryada. Eating food prepared by non-Amridharis is not one of them. If you think differently, then you are entitled to your own opinion. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
  4. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh I honestly sometimes feel that the only way to survive being a doctor is by having a good foundation in Sikhi. The pressure at medical school and during your job can only be overcome with Guru Ji's help. So many people look to drugs or alcohol as a way to de-stress. They are so unfortunate... It's a shame that your parents see your Amrit as being a hinderance when in actual fact you've been blessed with something which will help you through any situation in life. Time management is critical. Don't leave assignments or revision until the last minute. Don't believe your colleagues when they say they do that. Perhaps they do, but it's stupid. Much better to do a little bit everyday and then reward yourself with something nice like a Rensabai at the end of the week than leave it all to the end. You will start the year feeling really positive and then you will slip, and then you will realise that you should have revised much earlier, and then you will learn the hard way (by failing an exam) and then the next year you will ace everything because you learned your lesson! If you start your day well by doing your Simran and Nitnem your day will go so much easier and it will be a joy to study. You've chosen one of the best jobs in the world, doing seva for others for the rest of your life can only uplift you. Remind yourself of this whenever it gets tough. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
  5. lowest of the low singhni

    Eating Food With/prepared By Gursikhs Only?

    vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh To help with this question, go back to Guru Nanak Dev Ji's experience with Bhai Lalo. He ate with Bhai Lalo, not because Bhai Lalo was a 'Sikh' or a particular caste, but because he was an honest, humble person with a beautiful soul. To say that Sikhs should only eat from the hands of other Sikhs is the same as saying Brahmins can only eat from Brahmins. This completely erases the values of Gurbani. True Sikhs do not segregate people based on their religion or their caste or their nationality or any other thing. What we do is use our Bibek Buddhi (discriminatory intelligence) to keep the company of those people who reflect the values of the Guru i.e. honesty, integrity and humility. It is very naive to assume that all Amritdharis hold these values and therefore we must eat only from Amritdharis. There will be many non-Amritdharis and non-Sikhs who actually live a better 'Sikh' jeevan than Amritdharis do. Btw, the two quotations you have linked refer to immoral people and those who have dishonoured their Guru. This is not the same as good people or those who are attempting to follow their faith. Guru Nanak Dev Ji didn't eat with Malik Bhago because his food was a direct consequence of bad actions, not because he was not of the same religion/status as Guru Nanak Dev Ji. It's hard to understand how we have gotten to the stage where we think that Guru Nanak Dev Ji would have said 'I won't eat with you Bhai Lalo because you are not a Gursikh like me.' These are merely my opinions, on the basis of what Guru Ji has shown me through their ten jeevans and Gurbani. There will be many who disagree, but where I see Guru Ji's values being misrepresented, resulting in our youth being misled, it is necessary to speak. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
  6. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh Nice reply above. We have been influenced by Western society's expectations of loving one's family. In this context, love means not hurting someone, vowing to love someone forever, always supporting them no matter what, and becoming so attached to them that when they leave or die, life becomes unbearable. Guru Ji's definition of love is much different and much purer. Love is based on morality and truth. Loving one's family means something completely different for a true Sikh. It means always upholding the principles of Gurbani and Rehat. It means bringing up one's children with these values and teaching them how to be honourable in life and death. True love is LIVING Gurbani every day, not focusing your thoughts on your partner. I know there are examples of many Sikhs (or hardcores as you'd call them) who have left their family in order to pursue spiritual peace. But as you know, this is not necessary for a Gurmukh and is in some ways detrimental - it is almost easier to abandon Maya by running away, rather than living within it and controlling one's mind properly. Many people will be one-track minded, but this doesn't make them better than those who can learn to live within Maya. Another thing to bear in mind is that all the Sikh women whose sakhiaan you hear, have never abandoned their families or responsibilities to attain mukti. They are responsible for bringing up the Khalsas of the world and take this responsibility seriously. Their attitude should be that their children are not 'theirs' but Guru Ji's. Guru Ji may bless them with a child and Guru Ji may take the child away. Perhaps your definition of simran is limiting you. The physical act of sitting down and doing Simran is only one aspect of bhagti. Bhagti also involves admiring Guru Ji's creation and world and thanking Guru Ji for all He gives you. Seva is also equally as important in life - and raising a family is one of the biggest responsibilities that Sikh parents have. Working in an occupation which serves others also might play a role. You limit yourself by choosing only the life of a Sadhu and miss out on many opportunities that Guru Ji gave you to make the most of your jeevan. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
  7. lowest of the low singhni

    Singhs Who Treat Kaurs Like Anything But Princesses

    vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh Very apt topic which is increasingly relevant nowadays. I would say that although emphasis has been placed on physical disrespect, many other forms of disrespect are rife and because of their subtlety, often harder to combat. I would hope that my brother above would alter his derisive response if he knew he was speaking in the presence of any Kaur in one of the aforementioned situations. I would also say, that disrespect is not just a problem between Singhs and Kaurs, but between all brothers and sisters, as this forum too often shows us. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
  8. lowest of the low singhni

    True Living And Acting On Guru's Advice.

    Nice : ) with a very important message.
  9. lowest of the low singhni

    Bhenjia Do You Agree With The Arranged Wedding?

    I mostly agree with Singhni above. If your parents manage to find someone who is strong in their Sikhi principles and understanding of Gurbani then the rest will fall into place with a bit of luck (Guru Ji's blessing) and a bit of work (uddam).
  10. My humble opinion; as people have said above, and as Gurbani teaches us, money should never be the overriding factor in any of your decisions in life including a decision to marry someone. But if you want to raise Sikh children successfully in this world that Guru Ji has created it's helpful to have some element of financial security. It's sensible to consider how you will be able to clothe, feed and school your children and your family so that you can raise them to become Sikh leaders in the modern world. But you still have to remember that financial security can disappear in a flash, and at the end of the day, nothing is really dependent on it. It's a balance. Gurbani discourages us from living a hermit's life, but at the same time encourages us to avoid becoming obsessed with maya. How you choose to meet this balance is up to you and your understanding of the knowledge Guru Ji has shared with you.
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    Is Hair Removel With Band Aid A Kurehet

    Do you think Bhai Kanaiya had tensor bandages in his time? If Guru Ji takes off your limb in an accident do you go for Pesh? If Guru Ji themselves removed the plaster would you go for Pesh? What do you think Guru Ji would say if you asked them this question? Have you asked them? Would the time asking/answering these questions be better spent on doing a Sukhmani Sahib? Do you think Guru Ji will erase all your good deeds/Amrit for taking off a plaster? What is your intention when removing it? Hukamnama for this question: bYrwVI mhlw 4 ] hir jnu rwm nwm gun gwvY ] The Lord's humble servant sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord's Name. jy koeI inMd kry hir jn kI Apunw gunu n gvwvY ]1] rhwau ] Even if someone slanders the Lord's humble servant, he does not give up his own goodness. ||1||Pause|| jo ikCu kry su Awpy suAwmI hir Awpy kwr kmwvY ] Whatever the Lord and Master does, He does by Himself; the Lord Himself does the deeds. hir Awpy hI miq dyvY suAwmI hir Awpy boil bulwvY ]1] The Lord and Master Himself imparts understanding; the Lord Himself inspires us to speak. ||1|| hir Awpy pMc qqu ibsQwrw ivic DwqU pMc Awip pwvY ] The Lord Himself directs the evolution of the world of the five elements; He Himself infuses the five senses into it. jn nwnk siqguru myly Awpy hir Awpy Jgru cukwvY ]2]3] O servant Nanak, the Lord Himself unites us with the True Guru; He Himself resolves the conflicts. ||2||3|| *Read gurbani so you can understand the essence of what Guru Ji says. Understand it with the aid of steeks. Without Gurbani and Naam to guide you in life these questions will continue to harass your mind.*
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    Married Couples & Bank Accounts

    Agree with Kaljugi above, that there can be no rules for these issues. However I think as a general principle the two people should be honest and talk openly about money matters even if it is awkward at first - although it shouldn't be awkward - and if it is, then you have to ask, why is it awkward. The Answer is most likely haumai. Joint accounts are a good idea for openness and transparency between a couple, but care should be taken to have savings in different places/investments in case there is ever a problem with a particular account or bank. As to Guest & Singhni's tussle above, to Guest - you don't need to create your own rules for others. To Singhni - a truly humble Kaur who cares for her inlaws as her own parents would perhaps already have considered this as being a good idea.
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    How To Make Your Own Dhoof?

    vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh On Ang 525 Bhagat Ravidaas Ji tells us how to make dhoof and mentions how we can enlist the help of our Mother. gUjrI sRI rivdws jI ky pdy Gru 3 <> siqgur pRswid ] dUDu q bCrY Qnhu ibtwirE ] PUlu Bvir jlu mIin ibgwirE ]1] The calf has contaminated the milk in the teats. The bumblebee has contaminated the flower, and the fish has contaminated the water. mweI goibMd pUjw khw lY crwvau ] Avru n PUlu AnUpu n pwvau ]1] rhwau ] O mother, where shall I find any offering for the Lord's worship? I cannot find any flowers worthy of the incomparable Lord. mYlwgr byrHy hY BuieAMgw ] ibKu AMimRqu bsih iek sMgw ]2] The snakes encircle the sandalwood trees, poison and nectar dwell there together. DUp dIp neIbydih bwsw ] kYsy pUj krih qyrI dwsw ]3] Incense, lamps and offerings of food have become impure, so how are your servants to worship you? qnu mnu Arpau pUj crwvau ] gur prswid inrMjnu pwvau ]4] I dedicate and offer my mind and body to you. By Guru's Grace, I attain the immaculate Lord. pUjw Arcw Awih n qorI ] kih rivdws kvn giq morI ]5]1] Apart from this, I cannot offer any other worship. What will my fate be? Bhai Gurdas Ji expands on this here: http://www.sikhitoth...?ShabadID=5837. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
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    Explanation Needed Please

    vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh It makes more sense if you read it alongwith the preceding and following Saloks. The meanings on STTM are very literal and do not make much sense unless you try to delve deeper. The meanings below are based on the veechar in Gyani Harbans Singh's steeks and Gurbachan Singh Makin's translations. The Saloks stem from several experiences of Bhagat Ji. First was a conversation Bhagat Fareed Ji had with his mother, who was trying to encourage him to eat nicer foods because he was becoming thinner. As he progressed through his life, he tried all sorts of things to attain inner peace, including fasts and chewing a piece of wood which he had tied around his neck instead of eating food. He eventually realised that food and drink was necessary to stay alive and strong enough to do Bhagti. But at the same time, it was clear that becoming attached to certain tastes and indulging in rich foods did more harm to your spirituality and state of mind than it did good. For this reason, he discusses the various aspects of eating food versus eating Naam and how to achieve a balance. For those people who become Gurmukhs, simpler food (i.e. roti without butter) becomes more pleasing to them as they only compare their food with the taste of Naam. PrIdw skr KMfu invwq guVu mwiKEu mWJw duDu ] Fareed: Sugar, candy, milk and honey are all sweet to taste. sBy vsqU imTIAW rb n pujin quDu ]27] But none of these sweets compare to the sweetness of your worship. PrIdw rotI myrI kwT kI lwvxu myrI BuK ] Fareed: My food is simple and hard like wood, and I eat when my hunger tells me. ijnw KwDI copVI Gxy shingy duK ]28] Grief comes to those people who butter their roti (and indulge in the pleasures of the body by abandoning Guru Sahib's bhagti). ruKI suKI Kwie kY TMFw pwxI pIau ] Eat simple food and drink cold water. PrIdw dyiK prweI copVI nw qrswey jIau ]29] Fareed: Do not long for richer foods and save yourself the bother. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
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    Iphone Vs Ipad Vs Kindle?

    vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh I am considering advancing from the stone age into the Iphone age. I am looking for any of the above or other similar devices primarily for reading Gurbani & meanings for doing Sehaj Paath. Can anyone give me advice on what to buy and what software I'll need to load on said device to access Gurbani. I'm looking for reliability/durability/good battery life. Thanks vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
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    Bhenji, my mum is a gynaecologist. Although not in the London area you can pm me and I can give you her email address.
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    vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh Gender selection is illegal is most countries including the UK. Companies who offer this 'service' across the world are profiting from the confusion which has arisen due to parents not knowing where it is strictly legal or illegal. In the majority of cases it is illegal, dangerous and unregulated. According to Sikhi choosing the gender of your baby is against all our fundamental principles. Let Guru Sahib decide the gender of your child and be happy with it. Try to explain this to someone if they are putting pressure on you and stand your ground. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
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    vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh With all due respect to 'Against'. I agree with the fact that wearing a Baana is an honour which should be taken seriously and that not everybody can, in the same way that wearing Guru Ji's Dastaar is. However I know people who wear it every day, without switching to a 'Nok pagh, shirt and tie'. So not everybody is like that. Secondly only the person wearing the Baana knows if they're using it as a fashion statement or not. You're right, we should definitely think about Satkar and respect before wearing Baana and Chola. Bibian should wear a Baana which fits them correctly and preserves their modesty. If it's an issue of size then wear a bigger one so it isn't tight. It's not a complex concept. Whether our clothes are revealing or not is mainly dependant on how we choose to wear them. Also many women wear it with a chuni over the Dastaar. If they don't and it's a big issue for you then talk to them about it rather than issung a blanket ban on all Baanas for women, which by the way you have no authority to do. lol. Have you been to India lately? Punjabi suits are designed for the opposite effect, especially nowadays. On the other hand the Khalsa uniform was designed with only pure intentions. No. Because you just said you wanted Bibian to 'respect their female form'. So obviously they would wear a pajama. Otherwise there would be no pleasing you and we wouldn't want that now would we : ) Demure? I know what you're trying to say but if you mean modest and graceful then it's perfectly capable of being so whilst wearing a Baana. You think if I wear a Baana I lose my self respect and dignity? It's SELF-respect i.e. the respect I have for myself. You don't know how much respect I have for myself. Out of interest have you ever met a 'real Nihung' Singhni? (Real by your standards.) I'd like to hear you say such a thing to her. Next time you visit India how about it. We're really reaching into new depths to find things to argue about. If someone wants to wear a Baana and it gets them closer to Guru Ji then why should we judge them for it or say they shouldn't be allowed to wear it. Forgive me for any mistakes or offence caused. Perhaps someone could help the sister asking the original question? vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh
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    Howto Digitise Gurbani Books

    http://scantailor.sourceforge.net/ Found this link online for a free download of the software you mentioned. Just wanted to check if it's the right one? Btw thanks so much!
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    Happy Birthday S1nghnee Bhenji

    Happy Birthday! Although I don't know if you'll read this. Mehtab, maybe this year he will buy her an extra house to keep all the animals in? S1ngh, you need to tie her to the computer so she keeps in touch : (
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    Can't Find Gursikh Wife.

    Shera could you please pm me.
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    Akj Uk Bradford Smagam

    Isingh, can you update us with the locations of the various workshops from Thursday - Saturday? Are they at the same Gurdware where the later kirtan will be held?
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    A Dating Situation...

    vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh You're right, this isn't the best place to post about dating advice but now that you're here let's see how it goes. Firstly a quote from a friend " :rolleyes: The guy is clearly possessive and she is clearly obssessed." You don't need help it's pretty straightforward. He's being an <banned word filter activated>, leave him straight away. Now onto the chastisement! Just kidding : ) You should ask yourself why you haven't already left him. Try and figure out why you want to date someone. Try and find out what you want from life and whether doing this will help in any way, shape or form. A lot of people say they'd like to become Amritdhari when their Sikhi is stronger but in order to make that happen WE need to take action and make it stronger! If you're serious about that then explore it further. You can always ask people here and at the Gurdwara Sahib more about Sikhi, and there's plenty of information on the internet too. It'll be much more satisfying and fruitful than pursuing guys like that. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

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