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he played negative role in sikh politics tohra, chandumajra were his agents and SGPC money was used for fake leftist idology and raised teror groups like kartar singh sarabha brigade, indian lions to kill sikh youths and rape amritdhari sikh women so blood sucker and enemy of sikh thinking is no more.

Yes I DID BUY A sirohi kIRPAN FROM THE STALL of buddha dal it is a very rare SHASTAR and contains the stamp of the dal during hola mohalla but kind of SIROHI Isaw during JOR MELA was a great beauty which I regret missing.Tegha of BUDDHA DAL is very lethal and can cause more serious wounds than milatary rifle. JASSA VEER JI tell me about other shasters I already have damdami taksal tegha . I do not know GATAKA but I love GURU SHASTERS I have two good guns. Tell me about other Shasters but a Nihang singh SELLING kIRPANS NEAR dUKHNIVARAN SHAIB Patiala had lightest and beautiful but powerful Teghas.

Only passersby were bashed up by mumbai police. It is time sikhs should declare war on all anti-sikh deras and demolish it. We salute to Maharastra sikhs for showing the way andpanth should and must take puntive action againist sirsa dera, noormehaias, and banariawalas also radhasoamis. This is only solution otherwise reacting to antisikh activities will not help. Time has come for striking at anti sikh cults not wait for badals,manns or any other leader whether moderate or hardliners. As these socalled lberal minded has caused more damage to panth . Sikhs must learn martial arts and get milatary trainig to defend themselves.

yes u r right this massacre was carried on by intelligence agencies and their teror gangs as sikhi in jand k is very strong none of the local sikh visits vasino devi or ammar nath I feel proud that I spent my child hood there . very few sikhs knows that GURU NANAK DEV JI PROHIBITED SIKHS FROM VISITING AMARNATH AND WORSHIPPING SHIV LING AS IT IS WORSHIP OF SEX HOW IT ORGINATED I CANNOT WRITE AS IT IS RELIGIOUS SITE STORY BEHIND SHIVLING IS VERY VULGAR.

yes u r right jat is caste in haryana but in punjab it may be race further all castes whether they may be jat,khatri, ramgarhia were slaves during muslim rule before that other foreigns like sakas , kushans,huns also treated them badly rajputs r believed to be offfshoot of huns otherwise they r not mentioned in any source. Jats during medival times were most supressed they were given most undignified work iam mentioning about punjab jats . other members should refrain from using such terms such as churas ,chamars these r communal terms .

It is the same incident it happened in Nawabgang in West Bengal it created big headlines for 2 weeks how 6 kcf and kaf singhs fought for such a long time .One such encounter took place in1987 in Baroda in Gujarat and another in 1992 in DELHI where a Babbar khalsa Singh for 7 hours fought the 1000 cops and walked away like a winner but his relatives were hurt. Long gun battles were fought outside Punjab also some were reported some went unnoticed. Another gunbattle took place in Kanpur in 87 when Surjit singh penta repulshed a hundreds of cops .

hawk brother, could you please give me more details of this either in this topic or by pm... really curious ot know how the singhs got in west bengal? and some other details... thx These singhs were going in a fiat car sudenly some local people attacked them it was a routine during those days to hummilate the sikhs and one of the singhs was dragged to the police station but when SI incharge pulled the KESH OF Singh he snathed the revover from the officer and gunned down all 4 cops his other 5 singhs came and took him away then a hugh ppolice force backed by paramilatary forces came even local people with their weapons surrouded the singhs the singhs had 2 AK-47 besides weapons looted from slain cops soon 10,000 forces I am excluding 15-20,000 local mob also attacked the singhs .The singhs fought running and close gun battles for 7 days and nights official sources gave the figures of dead as 14 securitymen and 13 memes of local mob. 2 SINGHS BELONGED TO BATALA ,OTHERS TO U.P. THEIR MOTIVE REMAIN UNKNOWN WHY THEY WENT THERE.

In NAWABGANG IN 1991 JUST 6 SINGHS HELD 10,000 FORCES AND THEN DGP W.BENGAL WHO DEALT WITH NAXALS ADMITTED SINGHS HAVE NO MATCH EITHER THEY (SINGHS) MAY BE CRAZY OR UNDER SOME INFLUENCE OF DRUGS NO HUMAN CAN DO SUCH A FIGHTING FORGETTING SIKH HISTORY FULL OF SUCH HEROICS.IT WAS A FIGHT LIKE THE BOTA SINGH AND GARJA SINGH DID. SUCEESSES OF SIKH OPERATIONS R HIGHER NONE OF ANTI STATE GROUPS IN INDIA BE IT NAXALS EXECPT FOR MIZOS KILLING OF 15 IPS OFFICERS IN 1969 COULD MATCH . JUST 7 ATTACKED 5000 STRONG PAP COMPLEX IN1986 NOT TO MENTION THE PRIZE TARGET OF BEANTA IN HIGHEST SECURITY ZONE THEN SENDING INDRA TO HELL

No. I said that you write your posts as though you are uneducated. I have no idea whether you are or not. For the last time, Naxalite ideology is specifically involved in INDIA. What this means is that the Naxalites have never been to Russia, China, Australia or The Democratic Republic of Congo or any other random country that you are mentioning. I'm not propagating anything. I'm not even a Naxalite or a Socialist. I'm just trying to present a truthful picture of the movement. You are just trying my patience. Mao was not a Naxalite. Ceauşescu was not a Naxalite. I think you'll find that you are the one with the mirage, smoke and mirrors. Incoherent rambling. Are you talking about Stalin? That was called Stalinism, not Marxist-Leninism. I hate to break it to you, but the Soviet Union officially collapsed in 1991 so anything after is the work of your capitalist overlords. But don't worry, I won't go into a rant about how capitalism is evil and start shouting like you. Yeah, I mean with people like you at the helm, how can we fail! (Note: sarcasm). Grow up. Stop taking things so personally. Just because I rip your arguments to pieces, it doesn't mean I don't respect you or that I don't like you. You are my brother. Do not cotradict ur self u r throwing ur posts to pieces urself u say MAO WAS NOT THE NAXALITE I AM MENTIONING THE NAME OF BIGGEST NAXALITTE GROUP OF INDIA IT IS MAOIST COMMUNIST CENTRE SPREAD OVER CHATISGARH , BIHAR AND JHARKHAND AND ITS LEADER IS CHARU MAJUMDAR I PITY ON U ANOTHER BIG GROUP IS PEOPLE WAR GROUP THEY HAVE SEVERAL FACTIONS MOSTLY IN SOUTH INDIA AND PARTS OF BIHAR THEY FOLLOW LENIN MARX FAILED IDOLOGY .Nature of operation they operate in groups of 300- 1500 they r recriuting kids by force accoding to TIMES OF INDIA 3 MONTHS BACK. DO NOT DEMEAN THE SIKH FIGHTERS TELL ME IF THEY HAVE OPERATED IN LARGER GROUPS STILL THEY HOLD AND REPULSHED BIG FORCES IN GUN FIGHTING IN RATAUL IN1991, IN SANGUAR IN 1990, IN WEST BENGAL IN 14 DAY FIGHTING WHERE 6 KAF AND KCF SINGHS HOLD 10,OOO COPS AND PARA MILATARY FORCES TO THEIR KNEES. Each sikh is involved in SIKH MOVEMENT when WE PRAY RAJ KAREGA KHALSA AND SLOK OF HALIMI RAJ.And we read the verse of BEGUMPURA IN GRANTH SHAIB. U HAVE USER NAME OF MAJUMDAR BUT DO NOT KNOW IT IS NAME OF CHIEF OF NAXALLITE GROUP.BEGUMPURA IS OUR KHALSTAN OR SIKHSTAN U CAN NAME ANY THING. U R RIPING UR OWN ARGUEMENTS AS. WHAT ABOUT SOCILIST UNION OF NAGALAND THEY CALL NAXAL BIG FRAUDS .DURING THE ATTACK ON JEHANABAD NAXALLITE WERE 2000 IN NUMBER .DURING DEC ATTACK ON 1500 NAXALS SURROUNDED PARAMILATARY CAMP IN BIHAR JUST TWO SIKH SOLDIERS FOUGHT ONE DIED OTHER KILLED 17 NAXALS AS THEY WERE TRYING TO DO BEADBI OF KESH OF OTHER SOLDIER THEY TOOK TO THEIR HEELS. SOVIET UNION BROKE UP DUE TO FANATIC ACTIONS OF LENIN AND STALIN NOT DUE TO CAPILISTALISM.THE MOST OF THE NAXALS NOW CALL THEMSELVES MAOISTS MAO IS NOT NAXAL BUT NAXAL FOLLOW HIS IDELOGY.THIS WEBSITE IS FOR PROPAGATING SIKH IDEOLOGY NOT FOR PROPAGATING ANTI RELIGION IDOLOGY. SECONDLY I belong that clan who fought the enemies of sikhs since medival time.

MY friend MAZUMDHAR SHOULD GO INTO THE TRIAL OF1993 OF UNIVERSITY TEACHER OF RUSSIA FROM WHOSE REFERIGIATOR human heads were recovered secondly sikh movement is not dead it has assumed political shape very soon u will the see good results .My friend mazumdar do not have answers and call me an uneducated man yES Iam as a most humble singh who believes in GURU JI teaching not like MAZUMDAR WHO NEVER BELIEVE IN GOD.BUT I STILL REGARD HIM MY FRIEND AND HAVE NOTHING AGAINIST HIM I JUST SPOKE THE TRUTH IN MOST BEFITTING MANNER

The Naxalites, for the most part, were indifferent to the Khalistan movement. The simple fact of the matter is that most Sikhs are also anti-Khalistan for a whole host of reasons. Kaur khalistani Well this is part of the problem with the Sikh Nation; certain sections of it cannot, or are unwilling to, accept that there are numerous perceptions, beliefs and ways of looking at things and that all Sikhs are, in essence, individuals, with their own brains and have diverse opinions. So to say that ‘Sikhs believe in x y or z’, in the political sphere, is pointless because we all have different opinions. So, of all the research you did, you didn’t bother reading the link I gave you. My link clearly states in the first line that Naxalbari is a village in West Bengal. For the second time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite#History This is a meaningless question. It is like saying: ‘do Londoners support the congestion charge?’. Some do, some don’t, others don’t care. Like I have already said, the Naxalites are an INDIA-WIDE organisation, they are not concentrated in the Punjab and have had relatively little impact there compared with the rest of India. Please just read the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite Yes, they are fantasists. ‘They’ will get to restructure the country along Socialist lines: free health care, redistribution of wealth, education for all, the abolition of caste distinctions etc etc (in theory). Perhaps you should get your books out again. U called me a uneducated I accept u need source biggest proof is TINNAMMEN CHOWK MAASSARE IN 1989 OF CHINESE STUDENTS WILL U JUSTIFY IT YES,AND CHANGE OF L NAME OF LENINGRAD TO PETERBURG . DO NOT PROPAGATE ANTI RELIGION REJECTED IDELOGY .SEE THE CHENSE HISTORY OF CULTURAL REVOLUTION OF 70S WHEN RED GUARD CLASHED WITH CHENSE ARMY RESULT UR MAD MAO WAS PUT BEHIND BARS AND DIED IN DETENTION . SEE THE RECENT ASK ANY CHENSE ABOUT MAO THEY JUST BREAK THE HEAD OF FANS OF MAO.U NEED SOURCE WHAT HAPPENED IN RUMANIA IN1989 WAS SHOWN IN WORLD MEDIA WHERE A BLOOD THRISTY LEFTIST HEAD OF THE STATE WAS PUBLICLY EXECUTED. DO NOT SHOW MIRAGE TO YOUNG MINDS. WHY PRO NAXAL HINDI SPEAKING ARE KILLED BY LEFTIST ARMED GROUPS LIKE NSCN . IAM A HUMBLE SINGH NOT HAVE EGO AND NEVER SHOW MIRAGE LIKE U .NSCN AND ULFA R LEFTISTS GROUPS OF NORTH EAST.U NEED SOURCE U CAN GET THE DETAILS OF TRIAL OF SERIAL KILLER OF RUSSIA WHO USED TO EAT HUMAN FLESH HE disclosed that during forcible industrialisation of SOVIET UNION many farmers were turned in to factory workers and famine like situation was created and some farmers restored to eating human flesh that is the result of ur leftist rule. BIGGEST SOURCE IS FAMOUS SIBERIAN PRISON OF RUSSIA WHERE ONE MILLION ANTI COMMUNISTS WERE KEPT THIS WAS DISCLOSED BY GORVOCHOV THE FORMER SOVIET PRESIDENT SEE THE BIOGRAPHY OF HIM HE LOST HIS ENTIRE FAMILY TO COMMUNISTS.

But they follow maraxist lennist idology please go to punjab and find out how leftists joined the cats and killed and raped sikh fighters famly one such comrade was killed by BHAI SATNAM SINGH CHINNA IT IS KNOWN FACT U CAN CONFIRM FROM ANY SOURCE.

Unlike Punjab high security jails in eastrn states like bihar jharkhand and chatisgarh jail r guarded by guards armed with outdated rifles .in punjab there r big paramilatary bases and second biggest milatary base of asia now they have raised new corps in ferozepur sector on the plea of meeting pak threat. In AMIRTSAR, PATHANKOT GURDASPUR THERE IS HUGH MILATARY PRESENCE IN BUDDOWAL THERE IS ASIA BIGGEST ARMS AND AMMUNIATION RESERVE. THERE IS NOTHING OF THIS KIND IN NAXAL AFFECTED AREAS AND J AND K FURTHER THERE IS NATURAL DEFENCE OF FOREST IN THESE AREAS AS COMPAERED TO PUNJAB SIKH FIGHTERS WERE MORE SUCCESSFUL IN TERAI AREAas they got forest cover which is essential part of gurrila warfare.

Marxist -lennist is biggest failure u did not reply to KARTAR SINGH SARABHA BRIGADE.WHAT SOVIET UNION DID IN hUNGARY,POLAND .AFGHANISTAN and red guard did in China during cultral revolution during 70s. Go and see the genocide commited by soviet troops in Ukarinne ,baltic states and Russia what about Stalin who died like a pig even his own country men disowned him and his family was given shelter by india as he was responsible for 2 crore deaths. U have no knowdge about sikh movement it started in1955. Again u r wrong when u say sikh movement come and go and movement is still there, how u justify biharikaran of punjab it was again the left minded Baldev singh who betrayed TARA SINGH . WHY EVEN LEFTIST ARMED GROUPS OF NORTH EAST SUCH NSCN ,ULFA TARGET PRO NAXAL GROUPS BEACAUSE THEY R BIGGEST FRAUD. WHAT ABOUT THE GURSHARN SINGH WHO COTINUE TO DEMEAN THE SIKHS WILL U KILL HIM? I do not care what u think about me I speak truth which shows real face of comrades. why naxal took refuse in gurdwara during their movement in punjab? did not ur stident leader P.s Randhawa chief of PSU KILL INNOCENT SIKH STUDENTS IN 70S LATER HIMSELF WAS KILLED BY ONE OF THE VICTIMS RELATIVES was he not ur member what about ur members who as teacher ask sikh students to shed their kakars leftists idelogy is deserved to be throwen into the dust bin.

Just before the blasts at various places in India a bomb went off in RSS OFFICE in Nader Shaib and 3 RSS workers died while making bombs fake beards were recovered in hyderabad blasts eyewitnesses saw the one of the beggers wo planted the bombs had fake beard like muslims. RSS is the biggest teror groups of world.

Sunny, For every Sikh, like myself, who has the utmost respect for the Naxalites and their struggle, you will find another Sikh who hates them. I respect them because I know them, intimately. Members of my family were part of the Punjabi Naxalite movement in the 60s and 70s and believe me, they know their stuff and are very highly educated. This is why many Sikhs respect them: they are staunch Socialists (to be precise, they are Marxist-Leninists) and, as such, they believe in the equality of the human race, an equal distribution of wealth and the abolition of distinctions of caste, creed, gender, colour etc. Does that sound familiar? It should, because that is exaclty what Sikhs believe in. The reason that some Sikhs may dislike them is because they are, in the tradition of Marxism, atheists. I have no problem with this and neither do the majority of Sikhs out there. When children are dying because the State and society deems it fit to discriminate along the lines of caste, I do not care if a man or woman believes in God, shmod or the jolly green giant as long as something is done about it. And the Naxalites have been doing something about it for 40 odd years. May the Gurus bless the Naxalites for doing what the Sikhs should be doing. Apologies for the long rant. But NAxallites did not face Tanks and chemical weapons like our fighters faced sis I know many leftist leaders who wear kakars and smoke in private by making fun of sikh GURUS one such person is G.S GREWAL FORMER VC OF GNDU AMRITSAR .YES THEY NEVER MARRIED BUT THEY HAVE MISTRESSES. SOME of naxallites did join sikh movement beacause they found sikh movement to be true .During Master Tara singh time naxallites inflitrated sikh institution to change the sikh mentality but Master TARA SINGH ALSO inflitrated the leftists notabLe naxallites joined that period in sikh groups were GURCHARN SINGH TOHRA, SANT LONGOWAL,AND IN80S PREM SINGH CHANDUMAJRA,B.S BHUNDER, PROFF MOHINDER SINGH OF AKALI DAL AMRITSAR, THEY R BY HEART LEFTISTS Tand their motive is to DAMAGE THE SIKHS

Naxallites have failed poltical ideology and their track record in China ,RUSSIA is stained with blood of innocent people. One of top INDIAN Army official compares naxallites with sikh figters like this naxallites despite their numbers meekly runs away but sikh fighters fights like tigers and repulshes the superior forces. And leftists r anti religion if they dare attack the TAKHT PATNA SHAIAB. THERE WILL BE SEVERE RETAILIATION FROM HUGH SIKH UNITS SITUATED IN BIHAR as happened in1996 when a sikh army officer was abuducted and when sikh troops laid seige to their strongholds and 1500 naxallites surrendered and freed the officer. Rather sikhs have clear political idelogy and their track recod is clean even medival period. so dump leftist idology in garbage.

U r wrong my brother NAXALITES r as anti-sikh as RSS during sikh struggle in 80s their cadre joined cats and formed their own teror groups these were KARTAR SINGH SARABHA BRIGADE, INDIAN LIONS their leader sumit singh of PREETLARI was sent to to hell by singhs their leaders like balwinder singh still r allowed to carry and keep weapons like LMG ,AK 47S .they wear now panthic mask in 1993 in south they killed Punjab Police officers then did beadbi of their kesh as aresult their 8 villages were burned down by sikh policemen and 1000 socalled brave naxallites came and surrendered. We will be fooling ourself if we trust these bastards leftists H.S SURJEET WAS THE ONE OF THE FOUNDER OF NAXALITE MOVEMENT. Their other leaders r RAUANKI RAM profeessor of political science in Punjab university. Bhupinder brar both r the bigggest anti sikhs. They r trying to revive their movement in punjab through migration of bIHARI LABOURERS .These naxalites were involved in mass killings of sikh fighters famlies.

It realy pinches me personaly when someone raises objection to NITNEM BANIS.One should refrain from attacking rehat maryada and GREAT BANIS.Another foolish point of view is that enemy forces did not had artilery during Chamkaur shaib war but during the Kar seva canon balls and heavy artilery pieces has been found one can see these at garhi shaib and Katalgarh shaib.

Amitabh bacchan did incite the mob in filmi sytle saying sardaron ko jalla kar rakh do. Then he is also involed.he did in delhi.

I personaly feel controversy over DASAM GRANTH should be solved in cordial manner. The joginder singh and the editor of spokesman sometimes ago has even rejected the jaap shaib, chupai shiab and SWWIYAAS calling it brahmin vani which is like rejecting the whole ideology of sikhi. Their page on sikh history the author Harbhajan singh writes most foolish and useles comments which shows leftist leanings for example he made a comment on martydom of elder shaibzadas that they died while getting out of seize of mughals something the RSS also says . Another foolish comment is that about number of enemies troops in chamkaur shaib war by less it is fact mughal collected one million troops while regular were 2.5 lacs others came for greed of loot. Another foolish and deameaning comment was about that GURU GOBIND SINGH JIhe wrote he could not face wazir khan a simple fauzdar how could he shook the a big empire again he is uncorrect SIRHIND HAD THE SAME STATUS OF PRESENT DAY MUMBAI IT WAS NOT ONLY THE SECOND CAPITAL OF PUNJAB but bigggst commercial cetre of asia. Secondly lahore lost its importance to sirhind during GURU JI TIMES AND GOVORNER OF SIRHIND was among the 4 pillars of mughal empire others were delhi, bengal, and avadh hyderabad gained power after Aurangzeb.

Today in JAlandhar jail clash took place place between the jail staff and inmates due to beadbi of KESH OF A SIKH PRISONER fews days back although complaint was filed wiyh authorities no action was taken. As PUJAB IAS LOBBY under the DC jails comes is domonated by anti sikh officers .According to unofficial reports three inmates have died in police firing

This is the main problem that hindu minded akalis and pro leftist akalis are controlling HISTROIC GURDWARAS and OTHER GURDWARAS. True Panthic minded sikhs have thrown into background. Even in nonpolitical controlled gurdwaras pro rss r calling the shots. 3 months back in several newspapers an ad appeared about the mundan of sikh child near Chandigarh that family also distributed cards in this regard . Apart from this in some Gurdwaras hanuman chalisa is being recited. In celebrating VISHAVKARMA DAAY ragis sings shabads .In darbar shahib many times in morning katha is done in praise of RAMCHANDRA and in evening krishna IS SHOWN BHAGWAN KRISHANA in the katha . One can go and watch the chain of temples in and around each gurdwara including DARBAR SHAIB . IN the land of SGPC IN AMRITSAR INSIDE THE COMPLEX OF DURBAR SHIAB SRICHAND TEMPLE IS THERE. THESE MANMATS HAVE TO BE REMOVED

Biggest problem with sikhs is that a large section of sikhs have accecpted the religious and cultural slavery as the part of their life like the hindus did during the times of muslim rule.One can throw away the political slavery any time but cultural and religious slavery is difficult to throw away. I am citing few important examples based upon personal experiences once travelling in train a slave minded teacher of a university also a sikh strated discussing that GURU GOBIND SINGH JI made a mistake of seperating sikhs from hindus I was taken aback when he said it I bluntly told him the facts. Another example is of my own relatives who prefer to call themselves sikhs of GURU NANAK DEVJI and told me it is essential to survive in hindu society although I have more hindu friends but I follow the panthic ideology. Another example is of WELLKNOWN SIKH FAMILIES marrying off their daughters to fanatic minded hindus AS PM of INDIA also did it not to mention love marriages. there is need for singh sabha type movement there is very deep rooted conpricacy to wipe out sikhi. All hardliners akalis have in their groups addicts or selfseeker persons.

now it is true that some kind of materilism may be there but still sikhi is very strong there. Now I come to jammu part there r 4 regions where sikhs r very devoted these r Poonch , R.S Purra , JAMMU city ,gol gujral and simple camp. These sikhs r engaged in transport bussiness, Indian Armed forces service and gun makings.Some of best gun makers r sikhs there known for skills. One important facts unknown is that people of jammu r trained in gurrila warfare due insecurity from Pakistan but as compared to jammu hindus sikhs r not only better but the best commondoes.Even as compared to other regions of India even to black cat elites common sikhsof jammu r much ahead in merit in case commando or gurila warfare.When Punjab Police started punjab like repression in jammu a senior police officer and then a senior politician from J and warned the kps gill to stop otherwise they might loss whole punjab police to warth of local singhs as many youths r best shooters and very expert in explosives also specilises in destroying enemy weapons or using the same againist the enemy and knows each tactics of underground war fare.