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  1. Guest

    I've made a mistake

    I've made a mistake, I am 17 years old and I cut my beard for the first time, I'm instantly regretting it and I am now questioning what made me do it. I don't want to do it again but am afraid people will consider me a fool for cutting then keeping again straight away. Many relatives and friends used to push me to cut and used to say one day I they think I will cut. I have made my mind up that I will keep it again and never again dishonor my kesh. How do I do so without looking foolish.
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    Beard care from the past

    Taking a look at some old pictures, and was wondering what was the beard care from the Singh’s that used to live during those times?, would love for some more information
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    Beard curling

    Please have a look at the attached picture. After curling, the guy's beard looks cleaner and less messy without having to cut it. I think this is a better alternative to Sikhs who end up cutting their beards in the pursuit to "look good"/"presentable" or even a better alternative for trying the beard, although it does require you to go the same salon where kes are murdered everyday. Your thoughts?
  4. Not that long ago, having a "Sikh" CM who wasn't a full keshdhari Sikh would have been a shocking development. Nowadays, it's not even worth mentioning. Tomorrow, the CM will be a mona with some stubble who wears a pagh in public The day after, the CM will be a mona without a pagh Next week, SGPC members will be allowed to trim Meanwhile, clowns like Deep Sidhu are held up as panthic heros This is a community in freefall that doesn't have any standards. Degenerate behavior has become so normalized that nobody even notices anymore.
  5. https://www.cbc.ca/radio/docproject/raising-hair-1.4796906/after-struggling-for-an-ideal-sikh-beard-he-s-easing-up-on-his-face-but-not-his-faith-1.4797667 After struggling for an ideal Sikh beard, he's easing up on his face - but not his faith "Is 'struggle beard' a term?" asked Tej Swatch when asked to describe decades-long battle with his beard Tanara McLean · Posted: Oct 05, 2018 4:43 PM ET | Last Updated: October 29, 2021 Tej Swatch spent years perfecting his beard-beautifying regime — until one day when it all became too much. (Submitted by Tej Swatch) This story was first published in October 2018. It turns out the saying "beauty is pain" applies to beards, too. For nearly 20 years, Tej Swatch struggled with the same painful, daily beard-grooming routine. At peak beard, Swatch spent at least 30 minutes a day tugging, blow-drying, pasting, hair-spraying and bunning his seven-inch beard. Most days, it didn't even turn out the way he wanted. I don't like having a painful face anymore.- Tej Swatch on the stakes of ultimate beard upkeep "It was a struggle," he said, "Is 'struggle beard' a term?" "If it didn't work out that means you had to spend a bit more time doing that whole procedure again, up to the point where you actually have to wash out all your product and start all over again," he said, stroking his face. Tej's beard at its longest, 2002. (Submitted by Tej Swatch) Perfecting the technique Swatch started growing a beard at 14, but by the time he reached his late teens he was getting teased by other Sikh men about his untidy turban and beard. So Swatch, now 42, set out to become a master beard-sculpter, something he says comes with the territory for Sikh men. He spent years curating his beard-beautifying arsenal, including the perfect hair-dryer, shampoo, gel and brush. "It just needed to be pasted down. It needs to be straight," Swatch says. To achieve that beard straightness, Swatch used a Thathi — a cloth commonly used by Sikh men to groom their beards. "You tie it on the top of your head, and you look like an old cartoon character with a toothache," he says, laughing, although it was no laughing matter taking the Thathi off when his beard was set. "You would carefully peel it off and take some hairspray, then you'd dry that so you have a final finish." To achieve the beard style like seen in this photo, Tej Swatch said it took at least 30 minutes, using multiple products, a specific brush and a hair-dryer. (Submitted by Tej Swatch) The Five Ks Keeping a perfectly manicured beard isn't just ego or vanity. Impeccable grooming and hygiene are important elements of Sikh culture. Sikhs can be initiated into a community called the Khalsa, who live by a collective of symbols known as the Five Ks: Kesh: Uncut hair Kanga: A wooden comb Kara: An iron bangle worn around the wrist Kachera: Wearing clean undergarments Kirpan: A dagger or sword Kesh, pronounced kay-ess, is all about not cutting your hair, on your head or your face. "The reason these factors exist is that they came about around the time when Sikhs were being persecuted in India," said Swatch. "The point of it was these five symbols should signify who they are." Tej says his father's beard, pictured here, was always the one he modeled his own after. (Submitted by Tej Swatch) The father of all beards When Swatch started growing a beard at 14, his Dad's beard was the ultimate example for him. "He was this splendid Sikh man who had this very nice turban and he had this nice fully groomed beard that didn't look cut, it was just something that was totally under control," said Swatch. "He had a way of brushing it out and then tying a little bun and putting it under his chin before he went off to work." The younger Swatch insists that despite his efforts, he never got his beard in peak condition like his father's. Eventually the 30-minute daily process was just too painful. The "after" photo: Tej's beard is now roughly two inches long, five inches shorter than he kept it in previous years. (Submitted by Tej Swatch) "Pasting it down, the hair would start to pull down … and some hair would inevitably get plucked out." After giving it some hard thought about three years ago, Swatch decided it was time to cut his beard. The pressure, the stress, the time investment — it all became too much. "I concluded that it's not how long you keep your beard, it's that you keep a beard. People still identify me as a Sikh," he said. "I don't like having a painful face anymore." Swatch still keeps a beard, but it's only about two inches long now. Tej and his son Arjun, whose beard hasn't quite started to come in yet. (Submitted by Tej Swatch) Although his parents still ask once in a while if he'll grow it back, Swatch's beauty-beard days are a thing of the past. "It's just not who I am," he says.
  6. Sat Sri Akaal. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh. This video depicts and portrays the complications and hardships I've witnessed and experienced throughout my life. Moreover, I'm oblivious and wary about how majority of the sangat beholded and contemplated these issues during their schooling years and in a nutshell in life. I'm not solely the only one who underwent these problems and even in a working environment it is these prevalent situations where institutional racism occurs due to 9/11 attack on Twin Towers in a western nation. Therefore, this is just the commencing of my YouTube ventures which I will be willing to share publicly without any fear since I am direct and blunt personality. I would sincerely appreciate it with all gratitude if I can gain more Subscribers, Comments and share it widely to all your family, allies and relatives. For your interpretation to enjoy and view the video content. More videos will come soon. Who wants me to upload a Turban tutorial? As I am tactful and skillful in tying my joora without using the mirror by taking it an advantage or relying upon the mirror. Check out the video below: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh. Sat Sri Akaal to all the sangat. Stay tuned. God Bless.
  7. How can one socialise in the United Kingdom while also being a true Singh? Im 16 and I almost always get looks and It feels like it's hard to make friends here. At one point I was thinking of trimming my beard and now that I look back at it, I realise how stupid I was. I don't want to loose my identity and all that the guru's taught us.
  8. "Why do Sikhs keep a traditional look by keeping Hair and Beard? Why are they not unto date with modern?" ----- This was a question asked to me by a Chinese 1 year ago and then a hindu replied "very good question". I have found the answer to this question finally, but first I want to hear what the SikhSangat.com forum has to reply if someone asks them the same question?
  9. What is the best beard oil brand you've come across?
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    beard hair

    when ever i try to comb my dara or bursh it i feel alot of kesh breakage which hurts, i try to apply oil everyday, when i comb and brush alot of kesh break ps my dara is very curly and im still 18, any helps from the older singhs on this forum on how to maintain a wild curly beard and limit the amount of breakage which feels awful.
  11. Hi, I have a few questions and opinions I would like to get off my chest, wondering whether anybody could offer some answers and opinions. Firstly, Is there a difference between tying up ur beard (with gel) and trimming? Is tying up your beard allowed as per rehat? Im a young kesh Dhari Singh and I have a crippling fear of regret, I have never cut my kesh and I know I will regret it if I trim, but I also feel like when I'm old I will regret it if I don't, I kinda just want to make the mistake and atleast experience what it feels like to be an average 20 year old for once, I was very immersed in sikhi when I was a young teen and i don't know why but I have slowly drifted away a little,( maybe because the regret of not doing anything normal as a teenanger got to me.).. I don't wanna let go of sikhi or dissapointed my parents. but at the same time I don't wanna be 60 years old and feel like I missed out on epic experiences during my youth all because I was too scared to dissapointed my parents, When I'm 60 I don't think anyone will care that I had a trimmed beard for a coupe years while was young right? And there have been people worse off who mahraj has forgiven, so why not me if I did it? Also, the more general question I have is, Is it better to be fully in sikhi or fully out? I feel like a bit of a fraud or a fake Sikh , sometimes when I practice sikhi, because I also do things which mahraj wouldn't be proud of ..I'm stuck in two worlds and sometimes I think it's pointless to do both at the same time but other times I think it's necessary to do the good while I'm doing the bad do I can balance out the bad karma with the good ?(it makes sense in my head anyway) and to keep the discipline, because I knwo some things I do are bad and by forcing myself to keep my kesh I feel like it reminds me that I'm Sinning and that I will need to stop doing Those bad things at some point in life, for example I do things like partying, having s*x, Hav bad sangat, but at the same time I also do good things like listen to Kirtan, do paat ( japji sahib and rehraas atleast) do naam, go to gurdwara , don't smoke or drink, and I also have good sangat who I hang out with too. (But my good sangat doesnt mix with my bad sangat, and I feel like 2 completely different people depending on the group I'm with) i already know that sikhi is the truth and i know that shaheed singhs would be turning in their graves seeing this (and me), right now, sikhi is the only thing that will matter to me in the end, and I promise myself I will be a devout guriskh in a few years (with mahrajs kirpa), but it's kinda like I wanna procrastinate a bit Yano ? Like you know the traditional sentiment of inspirational people telling you to "go out into the world and try different things until u find your passion"...well I feel like because I was already born with sikhi, finding the truth (sikhi)was way to easy... I kinda wanna try some other stuff so I can know for sure myself that sikhi is the truth, I kinda just wanna live my young years a little and then once I'm abit older and I've had my fun then get back ont sikhi 100%..what do you guys think? Im really sorry if I have offended anyone, I know some of you may be reading this in disgust right now but I would really like to hear what you guys think, and start a discussion here because surely I'm not the only one who thinks like this or has ever thought this? And if u don't understand my point of view and want to be angry, please express yourself as clearly and constructively as possible, because I know if I read this like 5 years ago I would be so p*ssed off or just think the op was dumb! But That just goes to show how much our thought process can change... Thanks for reading
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    desire to trim my beard

    Satsriakal everyone I am a sikh boy,20 years old and I am a proud gursikh who has lately had an urge to trim my beard. I have been doing a lot of research on this but have not come across a reasonable argument. Why is it that me making a personal life decision of trimming my beard might move me away from my sikhi in the eyes of others. The reason why I would want to trim my beard is because I would feel more comfortable and neat. I proudly wear a turban and will always carry on wearing it with pride and honour. Some of the reasons which I came across were that our Gurus kept their honour and many sikh men have given their lives to protect this honour. I completely agree with this and I understand we should never move away form the religion but slightly trimming the beard just to be more comfortable and make it look neat? is that not acceptable? other reason was that we should respect how god has created us and should live in the natural form but then should we not factor in the advancements and change accordingly? if we live naturally only then is it not also wrong to get medical treatment? and so many other things we do in our daily life for instance even cutting out nails? I am sorry if I have said something wrong but I would like to make it clear that sikhi is in my heart,trimming my beard will not change the sentiment one bit and I encourage you to counter what I have said as it will only help me take this decision. thanks a lot
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    Beard/mustache growing help

    Vjkk vjkf, If anyone can give some advice I'd appreciate it. Im having an issue where my mustache/dhari is growing/grown alot more on right hand side of face so it looks a bit odd. Im in mid 20's so dont think it is about waiting for it to grow out. I sometimes get thoughts of trimming etc which i really dont want to do so If anyone can give some tips please?
  14. Guest

    Combing beard?

    Sangat Ji, How do you comb your beard? When I use my kanga, too many beard hairs fall out. I want to know the proper method and proper kanga to use. Thanks
  15. Guest

    Tidy Beard

    Where can one purchase a net which some sardars use to tie and keep their beard in place
  16. WJKK WJKF, I am only 27 and my beard is becoming white. I have around 30% white hair in beard. Is there any way to cure this or did anyone experienced that before and fixed that. Is there any chnace to white becoming black naturally. I know is health problem . IN old age i can agree to become white but not at 27. Any ideas
  17. Hello everyone I'm growing a beard again, I have trimmed it before. Its quite long now but doesn't look good, my hair are very thin and wiry. So what can I do to make it look good? Don't say let it remain as it is. Give me ideas.
  18. vjkk vjkf, I'm 15 years old and I'm starting to grow a beard, I'm the only person in my family besides my younger brother who keeps his kesh and beard. My hair is only on the sides of my head and under my chin right now and is about an inch or two long. One of my friends gave me gel to keep it down, I don't know if I should use it though. Any feedback would be good. Thanks.
  19. Why are the youths of today cutting their beards and kesh ??? Please explain openly ! Really wanna hear your thoughts.
  20. satsriakal sab nu i am thinking of trimming my beard and i am not sure to do it or not.please anyone suggest why to do it or why not? dhanyavaad
  21. WJKK WJKF recently my family has been behind me - to tie my beard but recently a good singh went to hazur sahib and the 2nd acting jathedar ji (NOT kulwant singh ji ) had a talk with me on call and he explained that you can tie beard on work where you require sometimes but i explained him with these 2 tuks sabat surat sidha dara kat ka kanga keshi chada sabat surat dastar sira 2nd jathedars reply :- we shouldnt be so katar not sure what to think of this but never going to tie my beard.
  22. There are quite a few threads on this forum about the troubles of dating with a turban and beard. Most of these discussions deteriorate into guys taking their frustrations out by bashing Punjabi girls for not wanting to be with keshdari males. I came across a post on reddit that tackles this issue from a slightly different angle. I will post the relevant bit: "Hey guys and gals, I'm a Sikh guy, wear a turban and have a fully grown beard. I live in Canada and am 20 years old. I have quite a few friends who are also turban-wearing Sikhs, and the one thing I am accustomed to hearing on an almost daily basis is "girls won't go out with me because I am a keshdari". That is all I ever hear, not only from my own friends, but on every Sikh forum online, there are hoards of Sikh guys who complain about not being able to get a girlfriend because they wear a turban and sport a beard. This is for any guy on reddit who complains about this issue, and for anyone who knows a guy like that in real life, I say, you need to slap some sense into him by showing him this post. The turban and the beard are not the reason you can't get girls. It is your lowly perception of yourself. You have no self confidence, you freak out every time you talk to a female because you are worried she doesn't like your turban/beard and you are a social klutz. Most keshdari males in the west spend their time hanging out with other keshdari guys, or other Indian men in general. You have very little experience socializing with members of other races, and especially with members of the opposite sex. That is the problem. You got no game. How do you fix it? Become social, talk to people you normally wouldn't talk to, develop your social skills, and watch your life change for the better. Secondly, most turban + beard guys I know are not physically attractive. No, it is NOT the beard and turban that are responsible for it. Most of you don't work out, and quite a few (maybe even majority) have really let yourselves go, and have developed huge guts. Get your behind into the gym, lose weight if you're fat, build muscle if you're skinny. If I was a girl, I wouldn't want to date most of you either, because you don't take care of yourselves. Sikhi says to treat your body like your temple, how on earth have you allowed your temple to become so desecrated? Stop eating allu de parathai, samosai, gulab jaman, eat good, wholesome, nutritious food, get in the gym, lift, your testosterone will increase, your confidence will increase, and so will your success with the ladies. Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, STOP LIMITING YOURSELF TO PUNJABI GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!! For Pete's sake, most guys I know who complain about this are the ones who ONLY go for Punjabi kudis. The world is your oyster my friend, there's wonderful girls out there who will accept you for who you are and are not Indian-descent. In fact, from my own experiences and what I have heard from friends, non-Punjabi girls actually respect the turban and beard more than Punjabi girls do. If you are proud to be keshdari, then they will respect you for it. When I ask most guys why they are wearing a turban, they'll tell me "because my parents made me". When pressed further about why their parents made them, they say "because it is a part of the religion". But they don't know WHY Sikhs wear turbans. That is the problem. FFS man, learn your own history! It is legendary what our ancestors went through to protect our dharam. It is teeming with stories of epic battles, sacrifice and determination. No other religion has ever had to face even half the crap we did to survive and preserve our beliefs. It was keshdari Sikhs who destroyed Mughal rule in Punjab, 21 keshdari Sikhs who held off an army of 10,000 Afghans for over 7 hours until reinforcements arrived. Confidence comes from being sure of who you are. Understand why you wear a turban, and the thousands of brave men and women who wore it before you, and you won't give a damn about what any woman thinks. If some immature Punjabi girl has no respect for your turban, that's her loss. A lot of them have forgotten that when Punjabi women were getting kidnapped left, right and center by Persian forces, and being taken to Iran to be sold in the sex-trade industries, it was turbaned Sikh men who went after them, fought enemies umpteenth times larger than themselves, won, and brought the women back safe and sound to their families. Any girl that rejects you solely for your turban isn't worth the time, even if she's Punjabi. Most of them are going to be fat aunties in 20 years time anyways, then they'll be paying guys to give them the time of day. My girlfriend is white, my brother is married to a Chinese lady, who is absolutely wonderful, and has complete respect for Sikhi and the turban. If you respect your turban, others will too. I've got a handful of friends (all keshdari) dating white girls and Asian (Chinese mostly) girls. I've got family in the USA, a few of my cousins are with Latinas. All are socially confident, all work out, none limited themselves to just Punjabi girls. That's my rant. I'm tired of keshdari guys complaining about how girls don't give you the time of day, it makes us all look like insecure, needy, weak boys who do not deserve any woman in the first place. Cutting your hair isn't going to make you a success with the ladies if you are out of shape and socially demented. On the other hand, I have known the most athletic, outgoing keshdari brothers get rejected time and time again by girls just because they had the turban. And each time, the girl was Punjabi. Face it dude, there are girls out there who are not attracted to the look, and there's nothing you can do about it. But there are a lot more girls out there than you think who don't give a damn about how big your facial hair is or what you have on your head, and a lot, if not the majority of these girls, are not Punjabi. STOP LIMITING YOURSELF! I leave you with one last question: If Dwayne The Rock Johnson converted to Sikhi today, grew out his beard and stuck on a turban, would he have any less success with the ladies? I rest my case." Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/Sikh/comments/1ggy25/dating_with_turban_and_beard/ Most respondents agreed with what he said, the support was almost unanimous. My thoughts? I think he hit the nail on the head. I disagree with the bit about Punjabi girls all turning into fat aunties, I think that was uncalled for, but other than that, he makes very valid points (imo). Keshdaris stick with other keshdaris and/or Indian men, so have little experience interacting with people of other races, and because of Punjabi culture, are discouraged from talking to women. I've been to quite a few Gurdwaras in my time, the one thing I noticed over and over again was a lack of aesthetics amongst the more religious members of our community, doesn't matter if they were young or old. Now, this isn't always, the case, I workout, most of my friends (keshdari) workout, a lot of guys posting in the comments section of that post said they do as well, and I'm sure a lot of guys on here do too. But what I have noticed is that, while we are supposed to be saint-soldiers, most of us focus too much on the "saint" aspect and not enough on the "soldier" portion. I also agree with what he said about Punjabi (NOT SIKH) girls, the average Punjabi girl these days doesn't really care much for Sikhi, so dating out of the race is probably a good idea. Thoughts? Yay or nay?
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