How Muslims Perceive Us

[Singh, Mahan]

By a Singh from Leeds

How Muslims Perceive Us

I had decided a while ago that I should write this e-mail, but other things always came first. Today i read something very shocking on an e-group, about bibian going out with muslim boys. What was most shocking was that people on the group just seemed to accept this. But can I ask why do we accept this?

In the last few years, I have become quite involved with some of these situations, not intentionally, but by accident. As some of you may know I now live in Leeds, which is right next to Bradford (Mini-Pakistan). Over the last year, when I went to some of the local Gurdwaras ( there are many), I would occasionally get distraught parents come up to me telling me to talk to their children. The reason they asked me, because I can speak english, british-born sikh, who attempts to practice. It started off with one girl who said she madly wants to marry a muslim boy, her parents will not agree, so they brought her to talk to me. Naturally I was a bit shocked, but I spoke to her at the gurdwara. She told me how much they loved each other, she was going to convert and they were going to marry. I asked her if he really did love her. She said yes. I said, "You are going to convert for him, out of love. I do not ask him to take Amrit, but will he, out of love for you, just come to the gurdwara, and just bow in front of Sahib Siri Guru Granth sahib ji. Surely if you can convert for him, he can do this much for you?"

To cut the story short, he would not. She stuck by him, two weeks later ran off with him. They were not seen for six weeks, until she came home, after he had dumped her for another girl. Two other cases came to me, different in structure, but similar storyline. Eventually, I thought enough is enough. I went on the gurdwara stage and spoke about muslims, panjabi girls, fundamental muslim groups, etc. Guru Maharaj de kirpa, the sangat responded, an ever-expanding youth group has been set-up, we did the shabad-Guru samagam,which included a youth camp,in which this subject was particularly discussed. Now the youth are getting ready to create mass education on Sikhi in this area, as this was seen as a starting point.

I KNOW THIS IS A LONG E-MAIL, BUT IMPORTANT. PLEASE READ ON.

Since the smamgam, because of the camp I have had another 4 cases. I know maharaj will help all those who need it. But I have noticed a pattern which i what I want to share. Every situation is different, different ages, environment, etc. But one fundamental pattern.

There are two types of muslim boys;

FUNDAMENTAL MUSLIM - these usually belong to particular groups. They do not care for the individuals, they look at who she is. They target sikh,hindu,christain and jewish girls. Romancing, flattery, games, etc, to get these in girls in their circle, leading towards conversion. Shocking as it may seem these boys truely believe if they convert a non-muslim into Islam, then they will be Mukt. (Liberated)

NON-RELIGIOUS MUSLIMS - they care little about religion, for them it is a social thing. If they go out with pakistani girls and get them pregnent, their community forces them to get married. They do not want to get married, but just go with girls. So they INTENTIONALLY pick sikh/hindu/white girls, because they can do what they want, there is no comeback. If the girls get pregnent, their community does not care, these are just cheap girls for their boys to use as they grow up. They are not pakistani muslim girls, who are pure. hence the pakistani community a major superiority complex over the others.

PUNJABI GIRLS - Notice i call them punjabi, because they have little knowledge on Sikhi, and no practice. The pattern I have found in the girls is what i call the "Bollywood Concept". These girls wholeheartedly believe love will conquer all. As in films, there is a social divide, their parents are against it, their community is against, but no matter love will always win. However these poor girls get a reality check, when the boy`s sisters, mother and other family do not want this "cheap" girl" in their family. Or the boy has had his fun and wants to move on to the next girl, or get maried to a respectable girl. Love suddenly disappears, and she is left humilliated in front of her friends, family and community FOR LIFE, because people do not forget.

I am not racist. I know punjabi boys are just as bad. But we as a community have got to look at how muslims percieve us. They do target punjabi girls, because they are considered easy. Many years ago, A hindu brahmin journalist wrote in a national newspaper, "The Daily Telegraph" that sikh girls are the most uninhibited, ie.(cheap), in the asian community. Fundamental muslim do target sikh girls, they are desparate for a dastaar wale girl just to humiliate sikhs. How are we as a community reacting. Why do we accept this? Why are our girls so niave that they think everything is so innocent. Why do they play games?

the muslim community here, has a major problem of pakistani girls running away with non-muslims, due to seeing the hypocrisy and attitudes of muslims boys. However the are trying to tackle the situation, hence have a £5million pound grant for a school for muslim girls.

We as sikhs look at Sarbat da bhalla (consideration for all mankind). But we also have realise not everyone else is like that. We as a community cannot tolerate our community to be precieved in this way. We are not cheap or asain trash. The sikh community should be the most moral, upstanding, hardworking, civilised and sophisticated society as created by our Guru`s. THAT IS OUR STANDARD.

A benti to everyone, have some self-respect! Especially to all the Bibian, do not let girls who are your friends behave like this. Say something. Educate them. It is not innocently going to the cinema with some boys, who happen to be muslims. The deeper they go the more they get burned.

I know alot of people may not like this e-mail, or will disagree with it. Some people may say there is not a problem. If you go to any college, uni, etc, you will see there is a problem. DO YOUR COMMUNITY A FAVOUR, DO NOT ACCEPT IT!!!!!

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Source: http://www.whyichosesikhism.com/?p=know&s=perceive

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[Guest militant singh]

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v235662e4SSDqkr

[amankaur]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I read all your email and you know what your spot on i totally agree, ok some people get baught up in like a way where they aint educated in sikhi therefore thats when problems occur so we as a community, Khalsa Panth do as much as we can do get these youngsters girls and boys into sikhi educate them in ways what ever way whether it serious or fun but aslong as the message gets thru then yh go for it they need to know what sikhi is and why we need to be 100% aware of these muslim extremists cus lately its just becoming a joke i swear!!!

on my behalf if i know or see a sikh kuri or guy with a muslim or anyone else for that matter like going out or what ever i too right will say something and i don't care if they get offended or not. we shall NOT let sikhi go down the toilet cus a few girls or guys want fun and act dumb I don't think so my pyari sikhi will not get tained like this we need to make a stand and do something about it.

BOLE SOHNIHAL SATSRIAKAL

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

[amankaur]

i just watched that video u posted militant singh..............

islam is peaceful bla bla and when you see these terrorists they shouting out allah huakbar how eva u spell it so they trying to say these people aint into islamic lolz ediots americans are so dumb and so is tony blair as he is bush's posh.

[Singh, Mahan]

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v235662e4SSDqkr

What was this video about?

It was 5 minutes of -

Bush saying that Islam is peaceful

Blair saying that Islam is peaceful

Clinton saying Islam is peaceful

Did not we know that already?

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[Guest militant singh]

i just watched that video u posted militant singh..............

islam is peaceful bla bla and when you see these terrorists they shouting out allah huakbar how eva u spell it so they trying to say these people aint into islamic lolz ediots americans are so dumb and so is tony blair as he is bush's posh.

Watch this video in its entirety da whole video -dwnld it-is an eye opener - of hw dey deceive, convert, kill and hw 'peace' in Islam means peace only 4 a certain amnt of time until they gather numberz 2 attack kill and convert-dis video is bcked up 4rm quotes 4rm da quran ex muslims and scholorz

[Guest militant singh]

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v235662e4SSDqkr

What was this video about?

It was 5 minutes of -

Bush saying that Islam is peaceful

Blair saying that Islam is peaceful

Clinton saying Islam is peaceful

Did not we know that already?

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U watched da preview dwnld it- das start shws what da world finks, as an intro,but as u go on it shws u da truth

[Guest militant singh]

DA FULL VERSION ON GOOGLE VIDEO

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...m+what+the+west

[Singh, Mahan]

DA FULL VERSION ON GOOGLE VIDEO

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...m+what+the+west

Thanks. The full version of the video does explain some of their behaviour about which I always wondered.

That video is indeed worth seeing. Thanks again

[gupt_kaur]

hmmm very interesting video