The Five Have Combined To Plunder The World

[OhTwadi]

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[no_0ne]

Maya is everything in this world since she is the shaddow of God but it only becomes Maya to us when we get attached, attracted by her, so this can be in the form of pleasure.

[OhTwadi]

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[Demonic Warrior]

'infact everything came from maya'

Maya comes on earth in the form of pleasure. Thats all Maya is, pleasure. This pleasure has to be worldly pleasure, not the pleasure derived from Naam. This is why siddhas, buddhas and naths left society and lived as hermits in the forest/jungles/mountains; they did this to leave maya. But Guru nanak dev ji wants us to be inside sannyasas, not outside sannyasas like bhagat dhroo, but instead like Raja Janak.

with all due respect, if it were that easy to leave maya behind, everyone would leave for the jungles. Guru sahib didn't say don't leave for jungles, he said, you left your houses, stayed in jungles and even then you coudln't escape from maya. so its pointless to leave your house n stay in jungles. in guru nanak's house, both sanyasi and gristhi are parvaan, although bhai sahib gurdaas jee has give more praise to a gristhi life. the point is we have to get our minds away from maya, if we can do that, then no matter where we live, in a jungle or as a gristhi, its parvaan.

when i said "everything came from maya", i was talking about the creation, i.e. all shapes. only waheguru is without maya, ANEEL. and ofcourse waheguru has no shape, no akaaar

to answer no one's question:

How is Maya one of the five?

Maya isn't one of the 5, it actually creates the 5, maya is above these 5

living a gristhi life is nothing without being a sanyasi. bhai sahib randhir singh ji describes the two types of sikhs in his books, the highest sikh is the one with a divine destiny who has a gristhi life but lives as a renunciate in that life - a hermit:

ਹਰਿ ਕੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਰਤੇ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ਚੂਕੇ ਮੋਹ ਪਿਆਸਾ ॥

The renunciates remain absorbed in devotional worship to the Lord; they are rid of emotional attachment and desire.

By being a renunciate one is being detached from attachment and desire. Guru Ji's Sikhs are inside sanyasis, meaning girsti jeevan sanyasis, the outside sanyasis are buddhas, siddhas etc. There is no difference between gristhi jeevan and sanyasi, you can't really seperate them, otherwise if you do the life of a gristhi jeevan is useless, as the life is led in Maya.

[OhTwadi]

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