Jump to content

Amrit Sanchaar (20 Apr 08)- Birmngham


JarnailS
 Share

Recommended Posts

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Occasion: Amrit Sanchaar

Place: Guru Nanak Nishkaam Sevak Jatha (GNNSJ)

Hall No: 4

Date: 20-April-2008

Time: 09:00am-13:00pm

City: Birmingham

After Amrit Sanchaar, Chula of the Amrit will be given to the sangat present in the hall.

Good Luck and those who have already made their mind, Congratulations and those who were blessed with Amrit di Daat on Vaisakhi day- Welcome to the Sikh Family.

Please spread this message to other forums and make more people aware of this Amrit Sanchaar.

Thank you Ji

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

post-10693-1208515542.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

wjkk wjkf

after the amrit sanchaar... the amrit that is left in the bata, is given to sangat in the form of CHULA (sip).

in other words, you can say is extra top up that you may need some times to keep your self strong and keep reminding you the awesome time you have had when you took amrit....lol

wjkk wjkf

what is chula jio? will they give 2 everyone in the main hall?
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Maaf karna, but this is not Gurmat.

Amrit is received from Guru Sahib after giving one's head. It's not so cheap that it's distributed openly. Punj Pyaaray received amrit after giving their head and to this day to receive amrit you must agree to give your head. Without this commitment amrit is not and cannot be given.

Also, there is no "half amrit" like choola. Choola can be given to someone who is already amritdhari after that person appears before the punj pyaaray, but non-amritdharis do not qualify at all.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Peacemaker,

can you give some quotes from Akal Takhat that suggest there is something like a 'half-amrit' which is called choola? Have you read about it any puratan maryada?

Amrit is not administered in half-measures. Either you are amritdhari or you aren't. You can't be "part amritdhari". You either have given your head to the Guru and in return received amrit and naam or you have not. You can't give part of your head and then get part amrit.

If someone says that giving choola is just a blessing, then this is also not sensible. If someone wants blessings from Guru Sahib, Karah Parshaad is given to everyone. Amrit is not karah parshaad. It is very valuable and should not be given out freely.

At any rate, please see below for what the Maryada says about how amrit is administered. I can't see anything about giving part-amrit or choola:

>>>>>>>>>>>

n. After the Ardas as per clause (I) above, thinking of our Father, the Tenth Master, the wearer of the aigrette, every person seeking to be baptised should sit in Bir Posture putting his/her right hand cupped on the left cupped hand and be made to drink the ambrosial mix five times, as the beloved one who pours the mix into his cupped hand exclaims : say, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh! (The Khalsa is of the Wondrous Destroyer of darkness; victory, too, is His!) The person being baptised should after imbibing the ambrosia, repeat : Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh. Then five handfuls of the ambrosial mix should he sprinkled into the eyes of the person being baptised and another five into his hair. Each such sprinkling should be accompanied by the beloved one administering baptism saying, "Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh", and the person being baptised repeating the chant. Whatever ambrosial mix is left over after the administration of the ambrosial Baptism to all individual seekers, should be sipped by all (men and women) baptised together.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest peacemaker
Peacemaker,

can you give some quotes from Akal Takhat that suggest there is something like a 'half-amrit' which is called choola? Have you read about it any puratan maryada?

Well, I don't know of any. That's why I asked you because you seemed very confident. Anyways, based on what you have shown me, I still don't see any problem with giving "choola" to individuals who are to be blessed with amrit in the future. Of course, I support the idea that those receiving choola, be on their way to keeping some form of rehat and not giving amrit to any "Joe" off the street as if it were some kind of "beverage" to have your fill with.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • was researching this and came back to this thread. Also found an older thread:    
    • Net pay after taxes. If you don't agree, think about this: If you were a trader and started off in China with silk that cost 100 rupees and came to India, and you had to pay total 800 rupees taxes at every small kingdom along the way, and then sold your goods for 1000 rupees, you'd have 100 rupees left, right? If your daswandh is on the gross, that's 100 rupees, meaning you have nothing left. Obviously, you owe only 10% of 100, not 10% of 1000. No, it's 10% before bills and other expenses. These expenses are not your expenses to earn money. They are consumption. If you are a business owner, you take out all expenses, including rent, shop electricity, cost of goods sold, advertising, and government taxes. Whatever is left is your profit and you owe 10% of that.  If you are an employee, you are also entitled to deduct the cost of earning money. That would be government taxes. Everything else is consumption.    
    • No, bro, it's simply not true that no one talks about Simran. Where did you hear that? Swingdon? The entire Sikh world talks about doing Simran, whether it's Maskeen ji, Giani Pinderpal Singh, Giani Kulwant Singh Jawaddi, or Sants. So what are you talking about? Agreed. Agreed. Well, if every bani were exactly the same, then why would Guru ji even write anything after writing Japji Sahib? We should all enjoy all the banis. No, Gurbani tells you to do Simran, but it's not just "the manual". Gurbani itself also has cleansing powers. I'm not saying not to do Simran. Do it. But Gurbani is not merely "the manual". Reading and singing Gurbani is spiritually helpful: ਪ੍ਰਭ ਬਾਣੀ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁਭਾਖਿਆ ॥  ਗਾਵਹੁ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਪੜਹੁ ਨਿਤ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੈ ਤੂ ਰਾਖਿਆ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ The Lord's Bani and the words are the best utterances. Ever sing hear and recite them, O brother and the Perfect Guru shall save thee. Pause. p611 Here Guru ji shows the importance of both Bani and Naam: ਆਇਓ ਸੁਨਨ ਪੜਨ ਕਉ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿ ਲਗਹਿ ਅਨ ਲਾਲਚਿ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਪਰਾਣੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ The mortal has come to hear and utter Bani. Forgetting the Name thou attached thyself to other desires. Vain is thy life, O mortal. Pause. p1219 Are there any house manuals that say to read and sing the house manual?
    • All of these are suppositions, bro. Linguists know that, generally, all the social classes of a physical area speak the same language, though some classes may use more advanced vocabulary. I'm talking about the syntax. That is, unless the King is an invader, which Porus was not. When you say Punjabi wasn't very evolved, what do you mean? The syntax must have been roughly the same. As for vocabulary, do you really think Punjabis at the time did nothing more than grunt to express their thoughts? That they had no shades of meaning? Such as hot/cold, red/yellow/blue, angry/sweet/loving/sad, etc? Why must we always have an inferiority complex?
    • I still think about that incident now and then, just haven't heard any developments regarding what happened, just like so many other things that have happened in Panjab!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use