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Reading gurbani doing Paath is not enough. This is not my own opinion. Gurbani clearly tells us:

ਪੜਿਐ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਉਤਰੈ ਪੂਛਹੁ ਗਿਆਨੀਆ ਜਾਇ।।੧।।

ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਥਾਕੇ ਸਾਂਤਿ ਨ ਆਈ।।

 

And we can see this in many aspects. So many many people pray every day but still carry worries ,hate and anger in their minds. Why have I seen here many posts about amritdhaaris who are unhappy, have anxiety? 

No one!!! talks about Simran.  Yes gurbani is wonderful and powerful.

But if one only reads it, and only takes that giaan but doesn't do abhyaas kmai, simran it's just more ego

There's a big difference between reading gurbani and doing naam Simran meditation. There is a difference between reading an japji Sahib and doing Simran. 

Gurbani tells us to do naam Simran.

And it is manmukhta,it's foolish to say that for example sukhmani Sahib is more powerful than japji Sahib. That's so wrong. Every bani is equal powerful and great! I've seen enough people making differences between baania. That's just wrong.

 

Gurbani is the holy highest purest most truthful wisdom of our gurus and gurmukhs who met Vaheguru. They wrote it so that we can also meet Vaheguru. Because that's the goal of a Sikh. The goal of a Sikh is to meet,hear see Vaheguru before death. 

So the difference between doing Paath and doing Simran is:

Doing Paath /reading gurbani= reading spiritual wisdom, learning that giaan. (But one must think, reflect, follow what gurbani says) and you don't even gain that giaan if you don't focus/concentrate while doing Paath. One should listen to the own voice while doing Paath, this helps.

Doing Simran = washing the mind, removing vichaar/phurne (thoughts) , washing the ego haumai and sins off the mind , Simran is actually following gurbani.  While doing Simran one also must listen to the own voice while speaking out the Gurmantar Vaheguru. Otherwise the andar Di mail will not get washed off. That's why many people say I can't focus when I do Simran. It's because you don't focus on the Gurmantar,on your voice . And it's also because Maya and vikaar start to run more because they want to stop you to do Simran,but you must not focus on the Vikaar and thoughts, you must focus on the Gurmantar and your voice. Nothing else.

 

Reading gurbani but not doing Simran is like

reading the manual to build a protective house from a storm .  The manual says to meditate. Reader does not meditate but only stays reading the manual, the reader thinks that reading the manual is the meditation. But it's not . In the end, when the storm is there, the reader has no protection from the storm and suffers.

 

So when we read bani, we should concentrate and try to figure out what gurbani says. Then follow it and do Simran !!!

Vaheguru. 

I ask for maafi for mistakes. 

Vaheguru

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On 8/22/2023 at 9:45 AM, Guest goabove !!! said:

Reading gurbani doing Paath is not enough. This is not my own opinion. Gurbani clearly tells us:

ਪੜਿਐ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਉਤਰੈ ਪੂਛਹੁ ਗਿਆਨੀਆ ਜਾਇ।।੧।।

ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਥਾਕੇ ਸਾਂਤਿ ਨ ਆਈ।।

 

And we can see this in many aspects. So many many people pray every day but still carry worries ,hate and anger in their minds. Why have I seen here many posts about amritdhaaris who are unhappy, have anxiety? 

No one!!! talks about Simran.  Yes gurbani is wonderful and powerful.

But if one only reads it, and only takes that giaan but doesn't do abhyaas kmai, simran it's just more ego

There's a big difference between reading gurbani and doing naam Simran meditation. There is a difference between reading an japji Sahib and doing Simran. 

Gurbani tells us to do naam Simran.

And it is manmukhta,it's foolish to say that for example sukhmani Sahib is more powerful than japji Sahib. That's so wrong. Every bani is equal powerful and great! I've seen enough people making differences between baania. That's just wrong.

 

Gurbani is the holy highest purest most truthful wisdom of our gurus and gurmukhs who met Vaheguru. They wrote it so that we can also meet Vaheguru. Because that's the goal of a Sikh. The goal of a Sikh is to meet,hear see Vaheguru before death. 

So the difference between doing Paath and doing Simran is:

Doing Paath /reading gurbani= reading spiritual wisdom, learning that giaan. (But one must think, reflect, follow what gurbani says) and you don't even gain that giaan if you don't focus/concentrate while doing Paath. One should listen to the own voice while doing Paath, this helps.

Doing Simran = washing the mind, removing vichaar/phurne (thoughts) , washing the ego haumai and sins off the mind , Simran is actually following gurbani.  While doing Simran one also must listen to the own voice while speaking out the Gurmantar Vaheguru. Otherwise the andar Di mail will not get washed off. That's why many people say I can't focus when I do Simran. It's because you don't focus on the Gurmantar,on your voice . And it's also because Maya and vikaar start to run more because they want to stop you to do Simran,but you must not focus on the Vikaar and thoughts, you must focus on the Gurmantar and your voice. Nothing else.

 

Reading gurbani but not doing Simran is like

reading the manual to build a protective house from a storm .  The manual says to meditate. Reader does not meditate but only stays reading the manual, the reader thinks that reading the manual is the meditation. But it's not . In the end, when the storm is there, the reader has no protection from the storm and suffers.

 

So when we read bani, we should concentrate and try to figure out what gurbani says. Then follow it and do Simran !!!

Vaheguru. 

I ask for maafi for mistakes. 

Vaheguru

ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਸੁਣਿ ਮੈਲੁ ਗਵਾਏ ॥
gurbaanee sun mail gavaae ||
Listening to the Word of Gurbani, filth is washed off,

ਸਹਜੇ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਮੰਨਿ ਵਸਾਏ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
sahaje har naam ma(n)n vasaae ||1|| rahaau ||
and they naturally enshrine the Lord's Name in their minds. ||1||Pause||

 

True and maharaj agrees with u.

The more we read Gurbani the easier it becomes to do simran, so they work hand in hand, not just one or the other.

 

only question i have is when u hear great mahpurakhs nitnem of like 50+ japji sahibs etc like how do they do it 

 

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this pangtee doesnt seem reference to gurbani which is from nirankar directly but other texts, worldly books etc...reading gurbani alone will start simran inside but one should do with focus and strive to understand as much as they can

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On 8/22/2023 at 1:45 AM, Guest goabove !!! said:

No one!!! talks about Simran

No, bro, it's simply not true that no one talks about Simran. Where did you hear that? Swingdon?

The entire Sikh world talks about doing Simran, whether it's Maskeen ji, Giani Pinderpal Singh, Giani Kulwant Singh Jawaddi, or Sants.
So what are you talking about?

On 8/22/2023 at 1:45 AM, Guest goabove !!! said:

Gurbani tells us to do naam Simran.

Agreed.

On 8/22/2023 at 1:45 AM, Guest goabove !!! said:

Every bani is equal powerful and great!

Agreed.

On 8/22/2023 at 1:45 AM, Guest goabove !!! said:

I've seen enough people making differences between baania.

Well, if every bani were exactly the same, then why would Guru ji even write anything after writing Japji Sahib? We should all enjoy all the banis.

On 8/22/2023 at 1:45 AM, Guest goabove !!! said:

Reading gurbani but not doing Simran is like

reading the manual to build a protective house from a storm .  The manual says to meditate. Reader does not meditate but only stays reading the manual,

No, Gurbani tells you to do Simran, but it's not just "the manual". Gurbani itself also has cleansing powers. I'm not saying not to do Simran. Do it.

But Gurbani is not merely "the manual". Reading and singing Gurbani is spiritually helpful:
ਪ੍ਰਭ ਬਾਣੀ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁਭਾਖਿਆ ॥ 
ਗਾਵਹੁ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਪੜਹੁ ਨਿਤ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੈ ਤੂ ਰਾਖਿਆ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
The Lord's Bani and the words are the best utterances. Ever sing hear and recite them, O brother and the Perfect Guru shall save thee. Pause. p611

Here Guru ji shows the importance of both Bani and Naam:

ਆਇਓ ਸੁਨਨ ਪੜਨ ਕਉ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿ ਲਗਹਿ ਅਨ ਲਾਲਚਿ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਪਰਾਣੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
The mortal has come to hear and utter Bani. Forgetting the Name thou attached thyself to other desires. Vain is thy life, O mortal. Pause. p1219

Are there any house manuals that say to read and sing the house manual?

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