Gems In Sggs

[harjit nanua]

wjkk wjkf,

Please do help me out in understanding the word of God. I have some

questions (in Gurbani, if you a question, and the journey to find the

answer brings 10 questions more,..which is amazing how much gems the

SGGS has).

In order to pick the gems, I need your help.

My questions:

1.

ਹਿਰਚੰਦਉਰੀ ਬਨ ਹਰ ਪਾਤ ਰੇ ਇਹੈ ਤੁਹਾਰੋ ਬੀਤ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

harichand-uree ban har paat ray ihai tuhaaro beet. ||1|| rahaa-o.

like the enchanted city of Hari-chandauree, or the green leaves of the

forest - such is

your way of life. ||1||Pause||

- page 673

What is the city of Hari-chaundree?

2. What happens at the moment of death? I know there is something

about messanger of death. But why does he beat you? Like said in

Kirtan Sohila. ?

3. What is Jivan Mukta?

4. ਨਾਨਕ ਵੇਪਰਵਾਹ ੁ ਸੋ ਿਕਰਤੁ ਨ ਿਮਟਈ ਰਾਮ ॥੨੬॥

naanak vayparvaahu so kirat na mit-ee raam. ||26||

O Nanak, the actions of the Self-existent Lord cannot be erased. ||26||

ਲਾਹੌਰ ਸਹਰ ੁ ਜਹਰ ੁ ਕਹਰ ੁ ਸਵਾ ਪਹਰ ੁ ॥੨੭॥

laahour sahar jahar kahar savaa pahar. ||27||

The city of Lahore suffered terrible destruction for four hours. ||27||

-SGGS 1412

Question : What happened to Lahore?

5. What are Dharam Khand, Gyan Khand, Saram Khand, Karam Khand, Sach Khand?

PLease do help.... Thank you thank you ..thank you....

[harjit nanua]

wjkk wjkf,

Please do help me out in understanding the word of God. I have some

questions (in Gurbani, if you a question, and the journey to find the

answer brings 10 questions more,..which is amazing how much gems the

SGGS has).

In order to pick the gems, I need your help.

My questions:

1.

ਹਿਰਚੰਦਉਰੀ ਬਨ ਹਰ ਪਾਤ ਰੇ ਇਹੈ ਤੁਹਾਰੋ ਬੀਤ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

harichand-uree ban har paat ray ihai tuhaaro beet. ||1|| rahaa-o.

like the enchanted city of Hari-chandauree, or the green leaves of the

forest - such is

your way of life. ||1||Pause||

- page 673

What is the city of Hari-chaundree?

2. What happens at the moment of death? I know there is something

about messanger of death. But why does he beat you? Like said in

Kirtan Sohila. ?

3. What is Jivan Mukta?

4. ਨਾਨਕ ਵੇਪਰਵਾਹ ੁ ਸੋ ਿਕਰਤੁ ਨ ਿਮਟਈ ਰਾਮ ॥੨੬॥

naanak vayparvaahu so kirat na mit-ee raam. ||26||

O Nanak, the actions of the Self-existent Lord cannot be erased. ||26||

ਲਾਹੌਰ ਸਹਰ ੁ ਜਹਰ ੁ ਕਹਰ ੁ ਸਵਾ ਪਹਰ ੁ ॥੨੭॥

laahour sahar jahar kahar savaa pahar. ||27||

The city of Lahore suffered terrible destruction for four hours. ||27||

-SGGS 1412

Question : What happened to Lahore?

5. What are Dharam Khand, Gyan Khand, Saram Khand, Karam Khand, Sach Khand?

PLease do help.... Thank you thank you ..thank you....

Below are answers given by a learnt man...

1. ਹਿਰਚੰਦਉਰੀ ਬਨ ਹਰ ਪਾਤ ਰੇ ਇਹੈ ਤੁਹਾਰੋ ਬੀਤ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

harichand-uree ban har paat ray ihai tuhaaro beet. ||1|| rahaa-o.

like the enchanted city of Hari-chandauree, or the green leaves of the

forest - such is

your way of life. ||1||Pause||

- page 673

What is the city of Hari-chaundree?<<<<<<

The 'enchanted city' is the CASTLE IN THE AIR. In other words it is an imaginary city. Due to your attachment to Maya, you are attracted to love other things. This makes you nothing more than the imaginary castles that you build in the air due to your attachment to maya, and you become as insignificant as the millions of green leaves in the jungle.

>>>>>2. What happens at the moment of death? I know there is something

about messanger of death. But why does he beat you? Like said in

Kirtan Sohila. ?<<<<<<<

the quote you mean is "jam kaal sahih sir danda hey".

Dr Sant Singh Khalsa has translated 'jam kaal' as 'the messenger of death'. The correct translation as per gurbani grammar is 'spiritual death'. Thus the meaning becomes, those who continue to live in ego, and conduct all their dealings in ego, are suffering spiritual death constantly.

>>>>>3. What is Jivan Mukta?<<<<<<

The word 'mukta' or 'mukti' means liberation/ freedom from bondage. We live in constant bondage of lust, anger, greed, attachment and ego. All our actions are under the influence of these five. Gurbani has referred to them as the five thieves that rob us of our spiritual merits.

In other religions, liberation comes after death. They believe that the body is the bondage that has trapped the soul. Only on death does the soul escapes from the body and would get liberation depending on its karma (eastern religions), or believe in a saviour who will liberate the sould on judgement day (western religions).

Sikhi rejects both. It says that the body itself is not the bondage. The bondage is the submission to the influence of the five thieves. Spiritually evolved persons can transcend the influence of the five thieves, and hence can be liberated from bondage whilst still alive. They are the jivan muktas.

Khands,..the 5... all are as this web site...

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Category:Five_Khands

[Surinderjit]

"In other religions, liberation comes after death. They believe that the body is the bondage that has trapped the soul. Only on death does the soul escapes from the body and would get liberation depending on its karma (eastern religions), or believe in a saviour who will liberate the sould on judgement day (western religions)."

Not true at all, one can get liberated in this very lifetime according to those religions. That is why hindus sometimes become sadhus. however, in the jain faith, it is as you say.. but not for hindus or buddhists.

so 33% correct.

[Nehmat]

so 33% correct.

Just 33%?

Seems like a calculated answer. :happy: