Guru Nanak Dev Sahib - Born Mukth or Not?

[SheikhFareed]

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[Consciousness]

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[Raaj.Karega.Khalsa]

Satguru Guru Naanak Dev Ji Maharaaj were 'Paarbrahm Parmeshar' themselves.

The question of being 'mukt' should not arise because they weren't engulfed in anything...no vices, no Karam-chakkar...nothing.

They were born a perfect being.

The 'Mool Mantar' received later in life, was probably simply a matter of when it was supposed to happen. It does not indicate of Guru Ji's imperfection because they had the 'Guru-Jot' right from birth; i.e. they weren't given Gurgaddi as the other Guru Ji were.

They were the avtaar of Akaal Purakh Himself. Hence, they were/are perfect.

[Guest dasguruka]

The people always follow the world. They never follow anything if they can't relate to it. I think that's why Akaal Purakh comes into human form and maat lok so He could set an example for us to live righteously and practice dharma. Consider Ram who left for an exile. The 10th Guru Nanak sacrificed his whole family when the time came. All the avataars lead such life that it influenced people to follow their foosteps. Guru Nanak Dev Ji's life also shows glimpses on every moment on how to live righteously staying within the Hukam. I heard this Katha by Giani Sant Ji Maskeen that Mohammad Sahib and Guru Nanak Dev Ji fell ill at one point in their lives. The doctors said the same thing. That they have no fever and no illness yet they can't understand why the sickness is there. He later mentioned that Mohammad Sahib would go into a cave and chant Allah Hoo and Guru Nanak Dev Ji chanted WaheGuru. Doing simran, both of them killed their "ego". Giani Ji described that the sickness was the result of both of them chanting to the point where they reached the 4th stage of naam simran called para. When this happens, there is simran that originates from the navel. Basically the whole point is that even though these souls are enlightened and mukt, they still abide by His Hukam so we humans could do the same and have an example to live accordingly. In his Autobiography, Guru Gobind Singh Ji mentions that he is stunned by Akaal Purakh's doings but the thing that astonishes him even more is his own life.

Gurbani and Guru Granth Sahib Ji always mention Akaal Purakh as the alimighty. But its noteworthy that the tuk from Sukhmani Sahib 'Nanak brahmgyani aap parmeshwar' tells us that there is no difference between Akaal Purakh or The Gurus.

Personally when I was an atheist, I thought I could never relate to God because it seemed something so far away. But then I started listening to kathas and in this one katha Giani Thakur Singh Ji said that he knows where at night all the Gurmukhs are at night. I got so anxious and I wanted to know and he proceeded that at night all the Gurmukhs are at Sachkhand. It just hit me like woww. I thought I could never relate to God. Thats another beauty of Sikhism that it is such a practical religion.

bhul chuk maaf karni ji

[SheikhFareed]

The people always follow the world. They never follow anything if they can't relate to it. I think that's why Akaal Purakh comes into human form and maat lok so He could set an example for us to live righteously and practice dharma. Consider Ram who left for an exile. The 10th Guru Nanak sacrificed his whole family when the time came. All the avataars lead such life that it influenced people to follow their foosteps. Guru Nanak Dev Ji's life also shows glimpses on every moment on how to live righteously staying within the Hukam. I heard this Katha by Giani Sant Ji Maskeen that Mohammad Sahib and Guru Nanak Dev Ji fell ill at one point in their lives. The doctors said the same thing. That they have no fever and no illness yet they can't understand why the sickness is there. He later mentioned that Mohammad Sahib would go into a cave and chant Allah Hoo and Guru Nanak Dev Ji chanted WaheGuru. Doing simran, both of them killed their "ego". Giani Ji described that the sickness was the result of both of them chanting to the point where they reached the 4th stage of naam simran called para. When this happens, there is simran that originates from the navel. Basically the whole point is that even though these souls are enlightened and mukt, they still abide by His Hukam so we humans could do the same and have an example to live accordingly. In his Autobiography, Guru Gobind Singh Ji mentions that he is stunned by Akaal Purakh's doings but the thing that astonishes him even more is his own life.

Gurbani and Guru Granth Sahib Ji always mention Akaal Purakh as the alimighty. But its noteworthy that the tuk from Sukhmani Sahib 'Nanak brahmgyani aap parmeshwar' tells us that there is no difference between Akaal Purakh or The Gurus.

Personally when I was an atheist, I thought I could never relate to God because it seemed something so far away. But then I started listening to kathas and in this one katha Giani Thakur Singh Ji said that he knows where at night all the Gurmukhs are at night. I got so anxious and I wanted to know and he proceeded that at night all the Gurmukhs are at Sachkhand. It just hit me like woww. I thought I could never relate to God. Thats another beauty of Sikhism that it is such a practical religion.

bhul chuk maaf karni ji

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