All about Nanaksar

[jagjit_waheguru]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Pyare jio, If I have offended, then please accept apologies, that was not the intention.

I do not think we can compare Baba Jarnail Singh and Baba Amar Singh. Baba Jarnail singh was an amazing Gursikh. Baba Amar Singh is very unpopular in Yuba City, california, where he did molest a young bibi. And has cases from hardev Singh Shergill for embezzlement. veer ji, you mention him and Yogi are targeted, but no other spiritual person is. maybe it is just them two have done wrong things. Yes, Sikh school in hayes, was an achievement, but that had nothing really to do with him. It was done by all the rich business men in Slough/Southall. Like Bhullars, etc. It is just none of them had high jeevans, and people like Bhai Rama Singh, etc would not take credit for seva they had not done. He did so they just put him up front. We do support the schools. It was my father who when it started, got slough Gurdwara to pay for the daily coaches which takes all the kids from slough in the early days.

The questions I have asked about nanaksar, are from personal experience with them. Possibly it is my fault and just a case of different practices in different places.

My grandfather took amrit from nanaksar two decades ago, and they never told him the Gurmantar, and he has always done abyass on Mool Mantar. When I asked the baba why? he said he was illiterate. I said so what, it is easier to do Gurmanter than mool mantar. I found this unacceptable, that some one goes to take Amrit, and they do even give him naam. There is a Singh in slough, who sometimes does seva in the punj. He is illiterate, but he has has m

emorised his nitnem and many other banis and is very abyassi. Illiteracy has nothing to do with it.

Last time I was in India, we had an akand path at the farmhouse. Nanaksar insisted on doing seva, because they knew my grandfather. In the evening, in the same room as the path, they held a diwan and did katha/keertan. i found this very strange. how can the paati concentrate on the paat. And surely we should be listening to bani, not someone interpretation of it. They made alot of money from sangat. The second evening , when they tried to do that again, I stopped them and told them to listen to bani instead. They were very upset. So I asked them to leave. For them an akand paat seems to be a ritual, and keertan a money making exercise.

As you can see I was not impressed at all. There are definatley no virtues of baba Nand Singh in this. Possibly their practices wary from place to place and baba to baba. So apologies, if this is a one-off. By the way, none of them wore kirpans, which is surely a tankaiya situation. Since we have done all akhand paths ourselves, reading all the bani ourselves, the way it should be. Bani is not a business.

waheguru ji kekhalsa, waheguru ji ke fateh

[kam1825]

Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa Waheguru Jee Kee Fatah

Veerjee,

May the Guru always guide you. You have not offended myself personally i can only state what i know of. I am thankful for things that are truthful on here. I don't like people who chat nindya without backing it up. I am thankful for your views on the reply.

I however apologise regarding the gurmantar that your grandfather didnt recieve. I can however say that when i took amrit it was explained. There should be no excuse to why it was never explained or given. This is the most priceless gem and should have been give.

Accept my apologies if i have offended yourself.

Kamalpreet Singh Pardeshi

Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa Waheguru jee Kee Fatah