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Waheguru Ji the concept of time and space is all relative. What might seem like an hour to a neech like me might be a sec or so for high avastha Gumukhs. And those who are videh mukht are actually beyound this whole concept of space and time anyway cos they have merged in the Akaal and Agamm. For sceptics who need a worldly explanation for everything I suggest you read Einstein's theory of relativity, a few things will become clear to us.

Vaheguroojeekakhalsa vaheguroojeekeefateh! sangat jeeo.... the previous comitee of our gurudwara ordered 1000 gutke sahibs to be printed, these gutke sahibs are now here, but there are wayy too many obv....how and why reasons aside, daas needs help to take these gutke to places where they are needed, and can be kept with proper satkaar (in boxes at the moment) there are nitnem banian and sukhmani sahib gutke sahibs, with the rehit maryada printed at the back please suggest places where they can be taken, daas can take them there personally, just need to know where to go benti for this not to turn into a swearing at the comitee post, relli need help in finding places to take potheeyan sahibs dhanvaad and khima jee! vaheguroojeekakhalsa vaheguroojeekeefateh!

We are not here to emmulate, compete or compare. The point i was making if it works for you then it's all good. Just cause our veer takes 7 mins does not mean he is not doing it correctly. If anyone wants a DVD on how to Bani Shud then message me and I will try and get it to you. WGJKWGJKF

WGJKWGJKF 7 mins is quick. To put this is perspective Baba Deep Singh did 101 Jap Ji Sahibs a day @ 25 mins 25 * 101 / 60 = 42hrs @7 Mins 7mins * 101 / 60 = 11.7 hrs So Baba Deep Singh must be going at some to to 101 JapJi Sahibs per day Sant Jarnail Singh some said used loads as well. Doing Japji Sahib quick in my opinion is not a problem as long as you take something from it.

I find at this early stage, varying speed is beneficial. So I do have times when I go through at a relatively leisurely pace, especially with Rehras as one can chill a bit more in the evenings and other times I do use a more faster approach. The fast approach to recital is useful to test one's state of memorisation. Also I do find that as one does bani more and more, and remembers more of it, the speed of recital naturally seems to increase. Personally I find this can sometimes compromise the level of semantic analysis that takes place compared to a more relaxed reading. But then sometimes I focus on arth and sometimes my focus is more on the actual sounds rather than meaning. I don't know if it is down to pure laziness but I find myself trying to concentrate more and more on the sound these days?

Who manages to do JapJi Sahib in 7 minutes???!?? That's mental. I can barely get it done under 25 minutes. I try to pronounce each word clearly as possible. 7 minutes is just disrespectful isn't it? Or is that the norm? Yup - that's another question regarding Gurbani I was thinking about last night. Also, what are the meanings of "Raag Aasa Mahala [insert number]", and also "Raag Gujree Mahala [insert number]"? There's so many other examples that I can't remember right now. Does the number represent which Guru Ji composed that particular quatrain or am I wrong?

Sant Baba Ajit Singh Ji (Hansali Wale) For More information listen to Giani Thakur Singh Ji's Katha they talk about them quite a bit. They are a pooran Gurmukh Braham Giani from what I heard

What do you mean by 'bani shud'?

Giani Thakur Singh's fastish reading takes 16/17 mins.

I got a long way to go with my pronunciation.

I totally agree. For some reason, I find when doing Rehraas Sahib I actually open my mouth a lot more (sounds weird), i.e. I really try to get the pronounciation of every 'tipee', 'adhik', etc., properly spot-on. It also seems to just flow so beautifully that you can't help but become almost lyrical when reciting Rehraas Sahib Ji. Yes, your point about having more time during the evening is very pertinent, as well as some days one REALLY tries to thoroughly comprehend the meaning of Gurbani by dwelling on each Gurmukhi word that little bit longer. When I first started doing paath, I knew there were a couple of pronounciations I wasn't doing correctly - they just didn't sound right to my ears. So I got a CD of Professor Satnam Singh and listened to his pronounciations, and thankfully I've began to improve quite quickly. Luckily I don't have that quirk of some Western youngsters who try to speak Panjabi / Gurmukhi and the harsh sounds of a word are softened into weird, amusing sounds. For example, a car is pronounced "gaddi" but sometimes the youngsters say "gadhi". :D