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Thanks for the reality check Veerjeo i couldnt sleep properly last night after having made the above comments.. perhaps because they are stinking of haumai, or that i had no business commenting on something i know very little about, perhaps it is both, or something thats even darker.. in any case, i can only pray to Maharaj and Sangat to do some kirpa on this moorakh jeo otherwise this dirtbag is going to keep spreading gandh like this.. A sincere maafi in Sangats feet once again :waheguru:

I completely agree. True story: Years ago I asked a younger Sikh why he wasn't paying attention to his studies and spending so much time watching excessive amounts of TV or just bumming about (N.B. He was a chardhi-kala young Singh and as far as I knew, he wasn't a "bad" person). His exact words were "What's the point, man? When Khalsa Raaj comes on earth innit, we gonna run tings. I ain't wasting my time reading a book and studying". The problem was that he wasn't averse solely to western education, but the poor fella didn't even know much about Sikh history. Like you said above, most of what he knew was to do with the 1984 situation, etc. He looked the part for sure but apart from that, there wasn't much going on upstairs. Some of our youngsters are using Sikhi as an excuse not to do anything. I don't know where this thinking has originated from.

I think that it is a myth that some races are more martial than others. I believe that all humans have two arms and legs and that anyone can learn how to fight. I feel that one problem that some Sikhs suffer from is that they think that all they need to be good fighters is anakh, warrior spirit, or aggression. Sometimes this is reflected in their language, when they specify that they want to 'die for the panth' or sacrifice themselves or become shaheed. Clearly this kind of mentality exhibits a great deal of bravery and commitment to a cause, however, this is not the mentality with which battles/fights are won. In fact, many races, that do not share the Sikhs' enthusiasm for shaheedi and warrior spirit, do much better in street fights than many Sikhs do. We as a community should not be under any illusion about our vulnerablilties. In fact, we are more likely to survive, if we recognise ourselves as vulnerable and weak and organise our strategies around that concept. I think that we put too much pressure on ourselves and try to act like we should be able to fight sava lakh, despite doing no training. .. then we get all surprised and shocked that not only can we not fight sava lakh, but we cant even fight one-on-one. Why not just accept that we are no different to anyone else and have to put just as much time and effort into self protection as any other race/community. Regarding martial arts training, you need to be specific about your goal. Take my example, I train mixed martial arts, for the purpose of fighting in the cage and fight other guys one-on-one who have been training for the same purpose. In fact, fighting in the cage has been the culmination of about 12 years of experience in martial arts. In my case, I train for sporting purposes, and this does not necessarily translate that well to other areas such as street fighting, modern day battlefield etc. So, if you want to train for sport than recognise that you are doing that. If you want to train for the street, then the focus needs to be street martial arts. I recommend Krav Maga or other combative systems such as Urban Combatives by Lee Morrison or FAST defence. These are small curricula that are easy to learn and dont require many many years of training. Lee Morrison often states that if he cant teach you technqiues that you could go out and use effectively on the street in ten minutes, then you need to find another instructor. These kind of small combative systems were taught to soldiers in WW2 when they only had a few days training to learn how to fight hand to hand combat. One such manual of hand to hand combat can be found here: It is called Get Tough by WE Fairbairn and shows the kind of unarmed techniques that soldiers were taught before being sent to war: http://www.tsroadmap.com/early/tough.pdf One thing I would suggest when finding a martial art is that there needs to be an element of pressure testing in the art that you choose to persue. If you dont get to try your techniques out against a resisting opponent trying their best to stop you, then how will you make your moves work in a street fight? In that respect, thats why many sport martial artists such as boxers and wrestlers do better in street fighter because they are used to employing their techniques under pressure and against a resisting opponent. As an anecdote, I have a friend who learns shastar vidya from Niddar Singh who got into a street fight on a bus with several white youths. Whilst he did ok, he didnt do brilliantly and didnt use any of the techniques that he had learnt in the classes. Why? Because he never had the opportunity to pressure test his skills under the influence of adrenaline and emotional anger that you feel in a street fight when you are in a proper fight. That is why FAST training where you get to employ your techniques under pressure against a fully padded opponent are so important: If you train in sports combat, the advantage you have is that you will be used to pressure, adrenaline, fear and competition, ie fighting someone who is also trying to beat you. If you train street combatives or other martial arts then you need scenario training and full contact drill to simulate what a real fight feels like. Alot of people knock gatka and say that it has lost his martial sting. However, I bet if you put on protective equipment and used foam covered gatka sticks and went full contact, you would quickly learn what works and what doesnt and, as a direct consequence become alot more 'martial'.

http://www.sikhsangeet.com/albumid207-Balwinder-Singh-Rangila-%28Chandigarh-Wale%29-Ram-Ram-Karta-Sab-Jag-Phire.html You can add Hypocrisy and Sanctimoniousness to the list of dislikes .

ye ur rite but we cant even hit and run we just seem to just stand there and take it and think this is my karm

SOPW commend the great work being done by Neverforget84 and the Sikh Youth Project for bringing awareness of the urgent medical needs for Bakshish Singh's daughter and for donating to the medical costs. This is a very serious situation, which will be be exacerbated by the delay of medical attention. SOPW has provided legal aid to Bakshish Singh and his co-defendants, and sangat willing will continue to do so. We have opened a fund to help towards medical costs, all donations published (names can be anonymous), and will be given to the family: http://www.justgiving.com/SOPW-UK (to donate) SOPW will also pledge £500 to the amount raised. The Sikh Organisation for Prisoners Welfare is a Registered Charity (UK)working to achieve justice for the thousands of Sikhs, who have been illegallyimprisoned and tortured in India. www.prisonerwelfare.com Email: info@prisonerwelfare.com Registered Charity No. 1125370

REPORT THIS DUSHT!!...HE IS A MEMBER OF THE RAVIDASIA DHARAM...THESE DUSHTS CONTINUE TO INSULT SIKHISM..THEY NEED TO BE DEALT WITH NOW!! http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Hate-Gobind-Rai/183216771724717

SOPW commend the great work being done by Neverforget84 and the Sikh Youth Project for bringing awareness of the urgent medical needs for Bakshish Singh's daughter and for donating to the medical costs. This is a very serious situation, which will be be exacerbated by the delay of medical attention. SOPW has provided legal aid to Bakshish Singh and his co-defendants, and sangat willing will continue to do so. We have opened a fund to help towards medical costs, all donations published (names can be anonymous), and will be given to the family: http://www.justgiving.com/SOPW-UK (to donate) SOPW will also pledge £500 to the amount raised. The Sikh Organisation for Prisoners Welfare is a Registered Charity (UK)working to achieve justice for the thousands of Sikhs, who have been illegallyimprisoned and tortured in India. www.prisonerwelfare.com Email: info@prisonerwelfare.com Registered Charity No. 1125370

If u havent notcied this is REPORT BEADBI section....if i dont advertise it how can we report it..unlike you im not willing to bury my head in the sand and ignore it..i will stand up against those who insult my father...soo please everyone report this facebook page and get this fool banned

Please dont tell me your defending naamdhari beliefs??...tha same belief which states that our father sri guru gobind singh ji maharaj ran and hid away in a jungle like a coward..while his khalsa was making the soils of northern india run red with their own blood...i hope your not suggesting sri guru gobind singh ji is a coward?

Firstly you have ignored my comments about the black cats of the movement...maybe you unaware of who they were and what they did...KPS Gill said if it wasnt for these black cats..then khalistan would of been formed...secondly about the example you provided above...it would be righteous to kill the evil policemen...i cant name one jathebandi who would of supported killing of innocent family members..maybe you should read up on the jeevan of the numerous kharkoo jathedars...the babbar khalsa jathebandi even went as far as saying...if a babbar kills a innocent..then he should be executed!...you cant put the crime of individuals on to the whole organisation...one bad apple within the movement does not represent the majority of freedom fighters....for example an american soldier kills an innocent family in afghanistan....the individual will be at fault not the organisation(united states army).....But what you also got remember is its a WAR!!..innocent people die...you cannot name one war in history where innocent people have not died...even during the khalsa - mughal wars....i provide with a recent example..singhs of the KLF tried to ambush Gobind Rams police jeep (this dusht raped many bibia, killed many gursikhs in his custody, <Edited> in a bowl and told gursikhs to drink his new amrit instead of sri guru gobind singh jis)...Gobind Ram was wounded in this attack, but his son (who was innocent) was killed in the crossfire... If he killed innocents he cannot be khalsa fullstop...NO KHARKOO JATHEBANDI HAS SUPPORTED THESE ACTIONS Its funny you would mention banda singh bahadur...babaji razed sirhind to the ground...massacred much of the population who in his eyes were not innocent because they allowed the execution of the chote sahibzade to take place..anyway back to the topic...all those you mentioned were shaheeds..however you forgot to mention shaheed bhai avtar singh bhrama, shaheed bhai gurjant isngh ji bhudsinghwala, shaheed sukhdev singh babbar, shaheed gurbachan singh ji manochal, shaheed bhai anokh singh babbar..and countless other legitimate shaheeds of the khalistan movement... When did i claim shaheedi was black and white... Arent we all.... lol

killing an innocent person is bad...but the elimination of a cruel tyrannical man is righteous..no doubt about that...

I think the bad apples your refering to are the black cats the punjab police used to destroy the movement from within....there is no such thing as a pakhandi shaheed lol...its easy to be a pakhandi sant...its extremely difficult to be a pakhandi and become shaheed...no fakester wants to die at the end of the day...no one is perfect..even the shaheeds who we glorify were not perfect..but they are on another level from us because they gave their blood for the kaum..and any singh or kaur who gave their life for the kaum..regardless of what you think of their actions..should be respected..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Yblhsr1O4IQ#at=132

Brother thats all you got and your already complaining...lol...i have a afro on my face..my dhari is extremely curly, extremely bushy and extremely large...be grateful you actually got a dhari..i know some singhs who are in their late twenties and still got very little facial hair

The amount of naam simran they do is between them and waheguru...the amount of beadbi of sikhi they do is between us and them...we have no problem with the amount of naam simran they do...but they should know this if they challenge sikhi and attempt to distort it..then we have a major problem..theyre near enough being kept alive by massive handouts from the central government...once the khalsa raj comes their false organistaion will fall away into the history books like every other fake gurudom which came..they are no different from them!!

It is the uniform of the khalsa fauj..dontt the police wear their uniforms daily..dont the army wear their uniforms daily..the khalsa fauj is no different

The world is really going to listen..like they care about the sikh people...you want help from the same people who stood by while sikhs in india were getting murdered in cold blood...in history from the times of baba banda siingh bahadur upto our golden era during khalsa raj in the 1800s..all that was achieved through shahadat..singhs and singhnia willing to give their lives for the panth...our ancestors who laughed at maut...the same warriors who during the anlgo sikh wars when stabbed through their chest would pull the bayonet in further..pulling the englishmen close enough for them to pull out their talwar and chop off his head..this was recorded by british officers...todays reaction from a bayonet wound would be a cry of pain..and i would be the first one to cry lol...like i said the greatest weapon is man willing to die for his cause..soo lets sort out our jeevans like you said and prepare ourselves for jung..spiritually, politically and millitarily

I agree!!!...If we want azaadi we need to be prepared to give blood for it...no amountt of jakare or selling t-shirts can equal even one drop of blood given in sacrifice to the panth..shaheedi is the most powerful weapon...their is no defencce against a man willing to die for his cause...but sadly the panth today is full of giddarhs including me..who have become attached to their cosy lives...weve become scared of sacrificing...WEVE BECOME SCARED OF DEATH...may waheguru give us kirpa and allow us to give blood for the panth...

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I dont support gurmaits beliefs however excommunicating him is taking it rather far isnt it?? ...seeing as the excommunicating batton is being passed around may i suggest kicking out all non khalistani sikhs from the kaum...

Turban campaign and EDL are both full of idiots

Personally i think these new freshies that have just arrived are vermin..they lack complete morals..they have no honour ..they are heavily involved with class A drugs and prostitutes...in my opinion they need a few hard beats and sent home..you cannot compare the old school punjabi immigrants to these new bunch..they are miles apart in terms of quality

Its very sad but the truth...there are amritdharis out their who still pay their allegiances to india...they were not from the youth...they were older singhs ...but the fools should know better

I was on broadway on the night of the celebrations...even though our 'Khalistan Zindabad' and 'Hindustan Murdabad' jakare were being drowned out by music and car horns...we made a big enough effect for monkey indians to stop what tthey were doing and look....a few of us also snatched off indian flags from full keshdhari/amritdhari sikhs..i think if india wins the world cup every khalistani sikh needs to come out and show them we are alive and kicking...the fear i saw in their eyes yesterday when a couple of singhs with big dharia...large dhumalle and army combat jackets on...made them piss themselves LOL And Yes there was a large group of pakistanis outside the mosque waving their flags and shouting anti indian slogans..they were surrounded by the police...

Instead of directly asking her, be more mellow and phrase it as a question. Start talking about the 5 Kakkar and how society is changing and how they still serve a purpose but its in the grey area. Don`t point fingers and say some are not keeping this kakkar or that kakkar, just dance around it and eventually, she will give her opinion on the kakkar she feels really strongly for and not touch on those that she does not keep because this may lead to her having to disclose if she keeps it or not. But thats when u ask more specific questions like what do you think about kirpan? Move slow and don't rush into discussion one kakkar too fast than the other ones. I say save keeping hair uncut as last kakkar discussed because the more you wait the more she will get anxious and feel uncomfortable or do something drastic to end the convo if she doesn't keep her hair uncut. Just so no one get me wrong. All Kakkar are important and none of them are in the grey area.

Look around a Gurdwara and all you see is grown men and woman or youth that are on the path of Sikhi. I think the Gurdwaras should hold a open question period targeted toward youth. If the question period is done at the Gurdwara, majority of the youth won't come because they are scared to come in and ask. They have guilt for some of the mistakes they have made and feel ashamed when they present themselves before Guru Sahib. So to avoid this discomforting feeling, it should be done not in Darbar Sahib. When there questions are being answered in a open space, where they can ask for clarification on answers if they don't understand the first time. Questions like: What does it mean to be a Sikh? How to practice Sikhi? You can say honest living, selfless service and meditate, but all these have different meaning for everyone, so a clarification on these would go along way to fixing problems the youth have. How to incorporate Sikhi into your life? I think this one is huge. If the youth can get a exact answer to this question, then they can let go of many faults and focus on Gurmat. More questions like these answered the more every youth will benefit.

One word: Lust The world has surrendered to lust.

Hold up im cite on this site that caveman is not a Niddar supporter. Now does that make this citation true? Reliability is a huge factor, when it comes to determining credible sources. Here is another example: I say the world is flat because a caveman in thousands of years ago said it is and he read it from another caveman who is a hindu. So it must be true the world is flat. Niddar needs to move past his hate against the Khalsa Panth and get off the payroll of the Indian Government.

He surely has proved his worth. Niddar motoo is to lie, cheat and steal. Caveman is a true Niddar follower and he even tried to lie about that.

You don't see whats wrong with spitting out lies about Mai Bhago ji? You are a niddar lover and you have no problem lying about it, like your perverted master niddar does lie throughout his book. You don't find this at all offensive: typical Niddar lover response. Can't answer for their questions, but just run away. It took him 15 years to think of a way to insult Jathedar Kulwant Singh ji and rest of the Khalsa Panth. No wonder this fool has been kicked out by every Nihang Dal. They kicked his a** to the curve and sent him on his way. And how can you provide evidence for things that never took place? Ever heard of a court room where the person who makes the claim has to prove that it existed.

twisting things? The only time niddar supporters come on here is when a thread about him is put up. And why does it matter if it has been discussed before on this site. If people want to discuss the book then let them.

I don't think its appropriate to call someone else darling.

if it's directed at me...the post you wrote, pm me and i'll try to put it up with my reply.

I'm not a fan of cliches, but respect is earned, not prostituted.

No one is talking about your beliefs here. You wrote clearly when you didn't ask for the reference for Mai Bhago Kaurs ji's slander from the member who wrote that Niddar slandered Satguru Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib ji Maharaj and the Sahibzade in his book. The fact you didn't ask for that slander means, that slander is in the book, on Mai Bhago ji. I know if i was going to ask for the references on the slander then i would ask for all four of them. So would anyone that respects Mai Bhago ji. And im waiting for you to answer my question, since your part of the Niddar crew.

The so called Sikhs that were against Sant ji in 1980 were splitting up the Panth. Sant ji calls these congress lovers out and shames them in his speeches. Don't you think Sant ji didn't know the Panth was being split then? Was that his name or someone else name? I think it's pathetic, that you don't know the facts behind this whole discussion and wanted to get a post in, to look cool at Sikh sangat......look at me. Did Sant ji sit with the congress lovers and fight side by side with them? No. Dal Khalsa and BSSF are no different than those so called Sikh groups that still support Congress and did in the late 70s to early 80s. This clearly shows you don't know what your talking about. This thread is showing the dubious role that Dal Khalsa and BSSF are playing in the Khalsa Panth, who love Darshan Laal, who is a gurnidak and is on a mission to break naive Sikhs from Gurmat. What does this have to do with this thread. But the fact your throwing this around like its a small, issues shows your committment to the unity of the Khalsa Panth. You just got into Sikhi, so your making final statements already. I'm be the naive Sikh now and ask you a question. What happened to being a Sikh that always learns......thats what Sikh means...... a learner. Consider this post slander againt you, but next time keep the pathetic part to yourself or the samething will happen. Next time put your thinking cap on a little tighter before you step into topics you don't know much about.

Singh you spoke to soon, you should have waited till this weekend passes. Now Dal Khalsa and BSSF are going to make an emergency meeting and set up a Akhand paat for tomorrow. And now they are going to cover up the mistake with a surprise Akhand Paat.

Socks can get dirty on the way to Maharaj. And wearing socks in Maharaj's presence is nothing wrong. But, let's put what your saying into perspective. The queen wearing socks equals to Manmohan the Hindu going to a mandir and worshipping a stone idol, which Maharaj told us not to do. Tell us where Maharaj says not to wear socks? Also wearing socks in not worship Hindu Gods, bowing to them in a Hindu prayer is worshipping Hindu Gods. I hope you don't bring up another off topic example. That is a Christain problem because he is a Christian. If the Christians want to label him as a traitor according to the Bible then they have every right. Manmohan the Hindu claims to be a Sikh of Maharaj. If he is a Sikh of Maharaj then, he cannot worship stone idols. Tell us where Maharaj said, taking part in a Akhand Paat is wrong? Also taking part in a Akhand Paat does not make you a Sikh and if it is against your religion, then you can't do it. Maharaj say those that worship stone idols are blind and mute and will go to hell. Gurmat forbids it. Maharaj (Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj) Bani is above all. Jassa, if you want to discuss, then discuss without being manipulative (plus they are not working). First you equate socks in Harmindar Sahib to Manmohan the Hindu worshipping stone idols and now to Hindu Gods photos. I could ask for your source on this one, regarding Akali Phul Singh ji, but I'm not going to because having Hindu Gods photos and then worshipping stone idols are two completely different practices. Where does Maharaj say you can't have Hindu Gods photos up? Maharaj strictly forbids stone idols worship and Bhagat Naamdev ji Maharaj smashes the stone idol in his Bani. We are talking about stone idol worship, which Maharaj said don't do and Manmohan the Hindu did it. Satguru Sri Guru Gobind SIngh Sahib ji Maharaj meant he is a stone idol breaker because he taught Sikhs that it is wrong to worship stone idols. In this way he breaks idols. Bhagat Naamdev ji Maharaj also broke stone idols with his Bani. Read the swaiya, it directly say not to accept them as the path to Sri Waheguru ji. This is a more complex question, which if you want to discuss it, then start a new thread where the core of this topic does not get drowned in.

Go on to Niddar Sanatan site, under the Nirmalas section at the bottom of the page, they have a quoted what they believe in, which was uttered by Nirmala Harbhajan Hari. This man that Niddar agrees with, first takes Gurbani out of context and then finishes off by saying the following: So this question is for the Niddar supporters. Where in Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj does it say what is quoted above? If your going to rip Gurbani out of context and spit on it like Nirmala Harbhajan Hari has done, then don't bother answering the question.

No one will be offended if Obama came to Harmandir Sahib and did not bow to Maharaj. Obama coming would have been a political gain, where no disrespect is done to his faith or his integrity. I asked this before and you probably missed it, so tell us who was hold a knife to Manmohan's neck? Do you see a post on here saying Manmohan visited a Mandir and now hes not a Sikh. The fact he did the worship of a stone idol, is why hes being called a Hindu. So whats your point? This has nothing to do with what Manmohan the Hindu did. Maharaja Ranjit Singh treated people equally and if Ranjit Singh bowed to idols then also hes a Hindu. Hence no favoritism toward everyone. Didn't Akali Phula Singh ji punish Maharaja Ranji Singh ji for going against Gurmat? Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj is a leader and did he worship stone idols? NO! Letting a religion practices what they want without oppressing others is called treating them equally. So Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj in Sri Chaupai Sahib ji, was thinking small when he said i don't accept the vedas, puraanas or any other religious scripture and only through you Sri Waheguru ji, i attained you?

Why do people always say Guru ji said all paths are to the One Lord when its not true. How can a muslim accept Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj as Guru, when they bow toward Mecca? The Anand Karaj is only for Sikhs and not for any other people. The whole point of Anand Karaj is to join the couple with Guru Sahib and how can that happen when one person does not accept Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj as Guru? ISW, didn't you ever wonder why the Koran is not placed next to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj on the throne of Akal Purakh?

Niddar does worship devis and he does drink alcohol. His training in his made up art of combat is used as a tool to suck in gullible youth and then brainwash them with his hindu views. His Bana and dastar is just a costume. It is Halloween everyday for him.

Should we blame the victims of 1984 for Manmohan's actions. What does this got to do with worshipping hindu Gods? So what if he gets called? Did he have to worship the stone in the middle? Singhs get invited to Hindu weddings at the Mandir, they go and sit there watch the thing happen and don't participate. Who was holding a knife to Hindu Manmohan's neck? The guy that supports politics and hindu stone worship over Sikhi teachings is telling others they are hallow. Is the world also flat? you got one thing right in the above post. Hindu Manmohan is a puppet of the Hindus. I can go to the local gas station, put in 25 cents in the ring machine and get a better jewel.

Every Nihang Dal has kicked Niddar out. And why don't you tell us about his stance on the devi, instead of trying to trap others into going to his twisted classes. All his follower, say why don't u ask him.........if you guys want to worship devis and drink alcohol then go ahead, don't bring that stuff onto Sikhi.

please hurry......... hahahahaa All you have too do is talk to the Sant and he will respect your wishes. Sants don't force advice down your throat, they give advice and its ur choice whether you want to accept it or not. It would be different if you asked him for advice and then you rejected it, but you didn't ask so there is no problem here. Talk to the Sant and let him talk to your parents about how you feel and what you want. The so called love marraiges have a higher failure rate than arranged marriages. One person i went to highschool with married a person of his choice last year and they divorced before their first anniversary. But they were together for five years before they got married. There are more cases i can rant about just that i know of, but i think you get the point. It's the type of person you marry, not the way you meet. There are girls out there that play goody good, but when you get to know them, they are down right rotten to the core. If you meet a girl for the first time then your taking a gamble whether she is putting on a front or actually genuine. And the probability of a girl being genuine is 1 to a 100 (not female hating, but universities are a good place for the perverts of both genders). Arranged marraiges can weed out the fakes from the down to earth girls that have morals and stick to them. If you can trust your networks and find a girl that is genuine then take that root, but most likely someone is sticking up for another person because they owe them for a different favor or they are just unsure about the whole thing. Your punjabi speaking problem is not a big issue because girls from india also can speak english with an accent, but not all. I think you don't want to get married in india because your wife would have grown up in a different culture. In my opinion india culture is 1000 times better than this one we live in; Canada and US. Put it another way, would you want your sister (i don't know if you have a sister, its just and example) getting married to a guy from Canada or US, who she met on her own? Most likely hes hiding in 600 closets and he is not coming out. This culture is messed up all around. The deeper you dig the more dirt you find. But if you can find that one genuine girl, then your a lucky man. Focus on your studies, if you stress about this marriage issue too much, your studies are going to suffer.

Southall youth, your comment is being deleted because you are spreading lies on here. Darshan Laal video of insulting Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj has not been edited. I'm post a link to all of the slander he, Darshan Laal, has done and you tell us, specifically where the distortion was done, the exact time. The tape goes on continously without any stop. Darshan Laal goes into other cities and say the Punj Banis (three from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji) are not Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj. This link has all the slander Darshan Laal has done of Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj and of Dhan Dhan Dhan Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj. http://patshahi10.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=315:prof-darshan-singh-ragi-is-corrupt&catid=34:english&Itemid=63 Darshan Laal is a crook. Here is a video of him, sitting and at the bed side of Inder Singh Ghagga after he was allegedly attacked. Inder Singh Ghagga insulted Satguru Sri Guru Arjan Dev ji Maharaj by saying Guru Sahib fainted on the hot plate. Two Gurnidaks forward the video to 1:20 Or are you going to say some how they planted Darhsn Laal in the Inder Ghagga video and he grow like a tree in there. You fake Sikhs are only good at one thing and thats lying and cheating the Sikh sangat.

This is the same Mammohan Singh that greeting gurnidak Darshan Laal (Prof Darshan Singh) at the airport. He greeted and accepted Darshan Laal, who insulted Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj at a Gurdwara in New York. He greeted and accepted this gurnidak after Sri Akal Takht Sahib ordered Sikhs not to eat or sit with this gurnidak. So today Mammohan Singh wants to do a speech on the life of Sant Baba Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa? Sant ji was against any man who disrespected Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj and his Bani, Dhan Dhan Dhan Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj. And Mammohan Singh greet a gurnidak with open arms. So how is Mammohan Singh or Dal Khalsa respecting Santji? Mammohan Singh and Dal Khalsa have no respect for Sant ji or the Khalsa Panth. There is a photo of Mammohan Singh greeting gurnidak Darshan Laal at the airport and there is a video of Dal Khalsa eating and sitting with Darshan Laal the gurnidak. Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa would have never greeted a gurnidak. He would have cut this gurnidaks head off, like he says to do with every gurnidak in his speeches. How can Dal Khalsa ever hold their head up high after disrespecting Santji, the Khalsa Panth, and Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj? Open the link if people doubt what i said http://www.panthic.org/articles/5228/

There is another photo that shows Bhagat ji in a Dastar, but still uses Bhagat and not Guru.

Perwinder Singh, are you from the EDL?