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  1. People who don't understand the avastha of a Dasam-Duaari Jyot Vigaasi Gurmukh write such nonsense about Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh. Bhai Sahib used to live in darshan of Vaheguru all the time. They had no pain or suffereing due to body. Bhai Sahib's last moments are captured very beautifully by Dr Trilochan Singh who had the fortune of being there when Bhai Sahib did Akal Chalana. Bhai Sahib for the last few months had been listening non-stop paaths of Siri Ramkali kee Vaar and when Bhai Sahib was about to leave, they said fateh to everyone and saying Vaheguru Vaheuguru left the body. Many Gursikhs who knew that Bhai Sahib was going to leave for Sachkhand, used to visit Bhai Sahib. It is possible that Sant Gurbachan Singh jee may have come to have darshan of Bhai Sahib but no Jatha source writes about them ever debating on Raagmala or even discussing it. Sant jee had deep shardha for Bhai Sahib as Bhai Sahib was his senior many years. Bhai Sahib was even senior to Sant Sunder Singh jee. Sant Gurbachan Singh jee wrote with great Shardha about Bhai Sahib. Later, Sant Kartar Singh jee spoke very highly about Bhai Sahib jee in one his katha. Bhai Atma Singh jee Panjokhra Sahib once narrated a very interesting incident about meeting of Bhai Sahib and Sant Gurbachan Singh jee. Sant jee was giving santhiya to students at Panjokhra Sahib that Bhai Sahib jee came along with Bhai Atma Singh jee. Bhai Sahib not wanting to disturb the santhiya, quietly did matha tek from outside and left. Sant jee saw Bhai Sahib and hurriedly stopped the santhiya and ran after Bhai Sahib. Bhai Sahib had walked quite distance by then. Sant jee had deep respect for Bhai Sahib and as he came close to Bhai Sahib, he attempted to catch Bhai Sahib's feet. Bhai Sahib sensed it and caught Sant jee in the middle. Then hurriedly Bhai Sahib told Sant jee to stop his students who were following Sant jee and doing the same to Bhai Sahib. At this Sant jee stopped his students and instructed them to say fateh. Such was pyaar between Bhai Sahib and Sant jee. Apne Karam kee Gatt main kya jaanoo|| Gurbani clearly says that we don't even know the gati of our own Karam. Then how would anyone know the Gati of Karam of someone like Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee? Who would know why they had pain or if they had any pain at all. Bhai Sahib was oblivious to the bodily pain. May Guru Sahib not let us indulge in disunity for petty reasons etc. There are far too many similarities than differences.
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  2. i feel very strongly about this. Horrific conditions.
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  3. There is so much truth in what was said above. I'm not unsympathetic to the plight of these people and my heart goes out to those who have to face this freezing weather outside, Sikh or nonSikh. That being said, we DO have to face some uncomfortable and even unpalatable truths about our people. One thing that has ALWAYS amazed me is how no one has opened up trade schools in Panjab, so freshies can learn bricklaying, carpentry, plastering etc. BEFORE they get here. The sad truth is that our people collectively are pretty dense in certain ways. How can we excuse the patent lack of foresight in terms of feedback reaching back home, that should lead to maneuvers over there that would significantly increase the employability of apnay over here? We all know damn well that the best bet for a semi-literate pendu in the UK is the construction trade, though even this is not as booming as it once was. I'm just baffled as to why apnay don't even seem to have the sense to manipulate such common knowledge to their benefit? Underlying a lot of crap is our own enormous haumai too. I know a fair few freshies now, and truth be told, NONE of them come from what we would call poor families back home. In fact the opposite is mostly the case and they've pulled strings and greased palms to get here. But whilst they shy away from learning a trade back home (and yes, rural caste pride plays its part in this 'shame'), they have no problem with coming here and all all manner of 'lowly' jobs. Sometimes I feel like a big aspect of all this mess is illusions of grandeur that too many apnay have and the complete mistrust we have of each other. You can tell freshies that it is proper crap out here (economy wise) and show them evidence of it, and they will STILL come charging over here like you were lying! I know a fair few intelligent, boen in UK Sikh graduates here who are now unemployed - so what of the chances of an unskilled villager from back home! Let's face it, the western economic bubble has burst with their warmongering and banking foolishness. This effects people already established here, let alone new comers. No one can afford to ignore this truth. Plus yes, I do think that Sikhs are avoiding going through the more difficult, laborious and challenging task of creating their own robust, self sufficient economy by fleeing Panjab and looking westwards for an easier option. And we have some serious unintellectual streak running through our quom. What excuse has Panjab itself got for failing to take advantage of the huge pool of resources and goodwill from diasporic Sikhs to bolster the economy over there? I tell you, all this relying on agriculture backhome is the road to our ruin. People need to get creative over there because for all we know, in time, the west might go belly up and in future we ourselves might have to look eastwards for our own security. Stranger things have happened. We need philanthropists and big thinkers to sort our problems out. In the meanwhile we have to do what we can to ease the lives of the unfortunates caught up in the mess. But we shouldn't ignore harsh truths whilst doing this - if only to prevent more people getting into this position.
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  4. Here's your answer The Final Moments of Bhai Sahib's Earthly Life By Bhai Trilochan Singh in Sankhaep Jeevan Bh. Sb. Randhir Singh Translated by Admin www.tapoban.org In 1960 Bhai Sahib's leg veins became weak due to having spent so much time in the dark dungeons, though the rest of his body was healthy. He only had trouble walking about. On April 13, 1961, all the Jatha came to see Bhai Sahib for Vaisakhi. On April 14th he wished good bye to everyone and sent them off. On April 16th, in the morning, he prepared to leave for Gurpuri. It was a Sunday. On Saturday night, his entire bed had moved and his body seemed very restless as though the time had arrived for that great soul to leave his body. From Amrit Vela, Veer Balbir Singh [bh. Sb.'s son], Veer Sajan Singh, Bibi Dalaer Kaur, I and my Singhnee along with some others sat beside Bhai Sahib. At 7 am, I rose to have some words with Bhai Balbir Singh who was in the yard when Bhai Sahib raised both his arms, motioning for me to remain seated. I sat near him. He lovingly called Bibi Dalaer Kaur and he tightly clasped my right arm. I took his other hand and put it to my chest. A very strong current passed through my body. Everyone began to feel that the moment was drawing near. Everyone wanted to say some words to him or at least hear some final words but that holy soul who had spent his final days in peace, happiness and Sehaj avashtaa, also made his final moments miraculous. With the power of his breaths, he said "Vahi" and raised the swaas from his naabh kanval and with "Guru" he took his breaths to teh Gagan Mandal of Dasam Duaar. Again for the second time and then the third time he said "Vahiguru" he put his swaas in Dasam Duaar and then took his place in Gurpuri. This happened at 7.30am on April 16, 1961. His saskaar (cremation) happened at the pond between Gujjarwal and Narangwal.
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  5. When I watch such trailers all I sing to myself is 'Je Milna Kalgian Wale Noo, Khande Da Amrit Piloo'
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