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vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! I found it... its waar 34... thanks... but this shabad is worth reading This Shabad is by Bhai Gurdaas Ji in Vaars Bhai Gurdaas on Pannaa 34 mW gBix jIA jwxdI puqu spuqu hovY suKdweI] maa(n) gabhan jeea jaanadhee puth saputh hovai sukhadhaaee|| kupuqhuN DI cMgyrVI pr Gr jwie vswie n AweI] kuputhahu(n) dhhee cha(n)gaerarree par ghar jaae vasaae n aaee|| DIAhuN sp skwrQw jwau jxyNdI jix jix KweI] dhheeahu(n) sap sakaarathhaa jaao janae(n)adhee jan jan khaaee|| mW fwiex DMnu DMnu hY kptI puqY Kwie AGweI] maa(n) ddaaein dhha(n)n dhha(n)n hai kapattee puthai khaae aghaaee|| bwmHx gweI Kwie spu PiV gur mMqR pvwie ipVweI] baamhan gaaee khaae sap farr gur ma(n)thr pavaae pirraaee|| ingury quil n horu ko isrjxhwrY isriT aupweI] nigurae thul n hor ko sirajanehaarai sirat(h) oupaaee|| mwqw ipqw n guru srxweI ]òô] maathaa pithaa n gur saranaaee ||aa|| Bhai Gurdas ji clearly said there is no one worse than nigura... even the snake who bites a holy person or cow(holy animal as per hindus) can be controlled by gurmantar(mantar done by serpants) but a nigura is worse than that snake as guru's teaching has no affect on him... Bhai Gurdas ji said... man i can't explain the complete meaning of this shabad... i felt so touched on reading its meanings... [font=GurbaniWebThick ]vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!![/font][/font]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Where I can find bhai gurdas ji's waars... On sikhitothemax its there but not as per pauri number... I am looking for waar 37 pauri 27(i think) which is **nigure tul na hor ko** vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! I strongly agree to Japnaam Singh veerjee's and hold the similar view... A partner can be found by parents or gursikh sangat... well i have seen some cases where a new singh of marriagable age from a non gursikh family who don't know much of gursikh sangat looks for a partner by himself but then he is not talking to a girl directly... he is going through her parents. So i believe that looking for a singhnee by yourself will led to kaam... which won't allow you to concentrate on naam abhyaas... well i know that if we pray, guru sahib helps us... Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! Agreed to MKhalsa... banaksha is far better than any tea or coffee... Yeah soft drinks are also harmful not only coz they have caffeene but also coz they are acidic which weakens the bones and make us weak from inside... so a gursikh generally tries to avoid these things... This is not only as per sikhi but as sikhi is pure logical and science has also proved how harmful soft drinks can be. I myself used to drink 3-4 cups of tea daily... left about an year ago and can feel the difference... if you don't believe you can try that... Well there is another option in tea which is called saavi cha... it is pure leaves and is generally prepared without milk... good for health also Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! Long time back a very chardi kala gursikh(i know personally) asked me whether it is ok to say Raja Ranjit Singh as Maharaja Ranjit Singh as for gursikhs Maharaj is only guru sahib. I didn't knew what to answer as he is a real chardi kala gursikh so must have thought something before asking and I personally always called Raja Ranjit Singh... what are sangat views on that? Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Waheguroo ji ka Khalsa Waheguroo ji ki Fateh !! Well here I doubt coz most of puratan singhs I have met believe that it was said by Guru Gobind Singh ji and noted down by Bhai Desa Singh ji... but i may be wrong but this is what i heard from puratan singhs... And yes for gursikhs every tuk in Guru Granth Sahib ji is a HUKAM and hence rehat. But it comes with HIS kirpa and continous commitment that stage is achieved but yea we have to try to follow as much we can from guru granth sahib ji coz it is our rehat Waheguroo ji ka Khalsa Waheguroo ji ki Fateh !!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Japman veerjee whats need to asking him a question... its simple while taking Amrit 5 told us naam is waheguroo and we have to recite 24/7... so no point arguing on this... mebbe that guy isn't amritdhari so don't know... there can be many reasons... just keep imbued in seva and simran and forget what other said coz everyone say according to their limited knowledge... just listen to guru sahib and what 5 told us coz 5 are guru saroop... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Ask that bhai ji in your gurudwara sahib that when he got Amrit, wasn't he told about the gurmantar by guru saroop 5 pyaare?? And if he was not then tell him that guru sahib HUKAM on ang 1356 of Guru Granth Sahib ji maharaaj is gur mMqR hIxs´ jo pRwxI iDRgMq jnm BRstxh ] gur munthr heenusu jo praanee dhrigunth junum bhrusuttuneh That mortal who lacks the Guru's Mantra - cursed and contaminated is his life. kUkrh sUkrh grDBh kwkh srpnh quil Klh ]33] kookureh sookureh gurudhubheh kaakeh surupuneh thul khuleh That blockhead is just a dog, a pig, a jackass, a crow, a snake. ||33|| But I am not sure what is right and what is wrong... but gurumantar is waheguroo only... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! veerjee... daas is working for last 4 years and we have parties every month or so, i understand your situation... but i try to avoid as much as possible... and my manager understand me and so do colleagues... but sometimes there is a situation that we have to go... like there is a launch or any other event where you have to do presentation, and then mebbe have to stay for dinner also or sometimes we have meetings as lunch or dinner meeting ... i think its ok but try to do simran all the time you are there then nothing can affect you... chaugird hamaare ram kaar dukh lagge na bhai There will be kaar of simran along us so nothing will affect us... but yeah if you go then come back early so that you dun end up doing Amritwela in the party coz these parties goes till 3-4 Am in the morning ... but try to come back after having dinner or a while later [font=GurbaniWebThick span stylefont-size14ptline-height100]vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!![/font][/font]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! I agree with veerjee... good explaination... its explained in more detail in Gurmat Bibek by bhai sahib randhir singh... well eating junk effect the concentration... though it doesn't affect us right now coz we don't concentrate on naam abhyaas that much but to naam abhyaasi gursikhs even little change in concentration affects a lot... so they prefer to keep bibek on lot of things like food, dressing, talking, listening everything... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! This is true in case of gurudwara sahibs but local sangat do celebrate any gurupurab... not only b'days but like bandi choor divas of guru hargobind sahib ji, parkaash of dhan shri guru granth sahib ji or any other gurupurab we come to know... yeah we do miss sometimes coz we aren't aware of any particular gurupurab... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! We must try to understand karam philosophy to answer most of our and other people queries... Though many naam abhyaasi singhs who have understood karam philosophy with HIS kirpa by naam abhyaas don't share much but some singhs have written some things which can be too complex but if we try to understand... it will help. P.S. - only read a book written by some naam abhyaasi or rehat obeying gursikh coz lot of other people wrote weird things also... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! I am sorry noonespecial veerjee, actually the topic was such that i never visited this section earlier... Yeah i agree that i use this tuk a lot **Rehat pyaari mujh ko sikh pyaara nahin** and it is from rehatnama bhai desa singh ji and this rehatnama was written at time of guru gobind singh ji and it is panthic parvaan I hope it should solve your query vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Names of Sehajdhari Sikhs to be removed Voter lists for SGPC elections Sarbjit Dhaliwal Tribune News Service Chandigarh, October 20 The Union Government has decided to remove the names of all Sehajdhari Sikhs from the voter lists for general elections of the SGPC. Informed sources said today that as the Union Government had decided to deny the right to vote to the Sehajdhari Sikhs in the SGPC elections, hence the decision to remove their names from the voter lists. The SGPC elections were due to be held in October 1999. But these have not been held yet for unknown reasons. The sources said while preparing fresh voter lists, around 8 lakh Sehajdhari Sikhs were enlisted as voters in Punjab. The total number of voters enlisted for the SGPC elections in Punjab was around 58 lakh. In Haryana, of the 31.5 lakh voters enlisted for the SGPC elections, around 55,000 were Sehajdhari Sikhs, and in Himachal Pradesh, around 9,000 were Sehajdhari Sikhs of the 25,000 voters. The decision to remove the names from the voter lists had been taken by making a necessary change in the Section 49-A of the Sikh Gurdwara Act of 1925. Besides the SGPC, a number of other organisations had opposed the inclusion of the names of the Sehajdhari Sikhs in the voter lists. The draft of the voter lists were ready. These would be published by the end of the December after carrying out necessary corrections on the basis of objections raised by persons concerned. The decision of the Union Government had come at a right time. Otherwise, after the final publication of the voter lists, it would have been very difficult to remove the names of Sehajdhari Sikhs from the lists, sources said. Interestingly, the Punjab Government had supported the voting right to Sehajdhari Sikhs in the SGPC elections. In fact, this issue has been hanging fire for the past four years. In 1999, the Union Government wrote to the then Punjab Chief Minister, Mr Parkash Singh Badal, that whether his government supported or not the voting right to Sehajdhari Sikhs. Mr Badal had kept the file pending till he was voted out from the power in the state. However, a few hours before formally submitting his resignation to the Governor, he tried to convey to the Centre that voting right should not be given to Sehajdhari Sikhs, but he was unable to do so as the officer concerned, who was asked to write to the Centre in this connection, refused to do so taking the plea that the Badal government had already lost the elections. Later, the file was put up to the Chief Minister, Capt Amarinder Singh, who supported the voting right to the Sehajdhari Sikhs. The sources said before the final publication of the voter lists, all such names would have to be removed from the lists. Otherwise, if these names were not removed, a lot of confusion would be caused during the elections. Even Sehajdhari Sikhs will not be able to vote in the elections of the local committees of the gurdwaras managed indirectly by the SGPC. Under Section 92 of the Act, there are gurdwaras having monthly income over Rs 1,00,000, which are managed by the elected local committees. Three members of such committees are elected at local level and one is nominated by the SGPC. And the “ patit Sikhs” (with shorn hair on head and clipped beards) will also be having no right to vote. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Happy B'day Jeeo May Guru Sahib bless with more naam abhyaas, Gurbani, Amritwela, Rehat and Sangat Stay chardi kala vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! I think you should change it with the right word which is aaki and also mail a person not to write wrong when it comes to anything related to bani... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Now this is too much... comeon... our guru sahib was and is and will be most practical... Please i dun wanna see more comments for guru sahib... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Veer khalistani jee... sangat might get confused jee with your comments... I am 100% sure that none of our guru sahib had more than one wifes... you can read history books by bhai sahib randhir singh or asht gur chamatkaar or khalgidhar chamatkaar by bhai veer singh ji for further details... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! **Koi nindak hove satguru ka fir saran gur aave Pichle guneh satgur baksh laye satsangat naal ralaave** This is vadiaayi of true guru... can anyone else even think of this? Thats why **DHAN GURU DHAN GURU PYAARE** vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Amritwela is not at all an easy thing... only come by HIS kirpa so we have to do ardaasa everyday that guru sahib bless us with Amritwela... and try to do sangat of real chardi kala gursikhs... it helps improving on jeevni and Amritwela... I was most laziest till 3-4 years back then some gursikh chardi kala ppl helped me improve on... now also laziness attacks but i had to remember **farida pichal raat na jaagyoye, jeevandro mouyohe** and have to do ardaasa, then i can fight laziness... TV at all is not good... eating junk food at night doesn't allow to get up at Amritwela... Being online till late night also disturbs... should get to bed by 9:00 PM... well yeah once Amritwela becomes regular then no matter what time you goto bed... its just guru sahib kirpa but we have to put our effort and this is what we can do... Bhul Chuk di Khima Daas vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Guru Sahib's HUKAM... **Dhrig tina ka jeeviya je likh likh veechey naao kheti jin ki ujre khalware kya thaao sache surume bahare agge lahe na daad Akal eh na aakhiye akal gavaayiye baad Akli sahib seviye akli paayiye maan Akli padd ke boojhiye akli keechey daan Nanak aakhe rah ehu hor galan saitaan** This HUKAM concludes everything... First tuks clear that Cursed is their life who just write books on naam or gursikhi without their own jeevni upto the mark. Then guru sahib said that it is not wisdom which leads to arguements... why are we doing arguements? It is not wisdom... its stupidity... if someone don't agree with the truth... guru sahibs hukam is **moorkhe naal na lujhiye** Then next tuk tells us use our wisdom leads us to serve lord and we should just pray to guru sahib to give us that knowledge that we can understand what is right and what is wrong... then next tuk tells us... Use ur wisdom to understand what someone writes... only guru sahib wrote truth in dhan shri guru granth sahib ji... rest everyone writes according to the limited knowledge they have... understand gurbani and follow... we can take help of veechaar by real chardi kala gurmukhs but not just anyone or everyone... Nanak says only this is the right path... rest everything is evil. So i request my dear veerjee and bhenjis to not to argue on things... understand gurbani... and follow it... this is the only rehat for gursikhs... well ofcourse the rehat told by 5 and rehat written in books is the minimum rehat wi thout which we are not sikhs at all but for improving jeevni every tuk in guru granth sahib ji maharaaj is a rehat... don't argue... just keep imbued in seva and simran... if someone has any doubt... just try to clear it with what knowledge guru sahib gave us but when it start going to arguement don't continue it and back out... no point arguing with moorakh... those who eat meat won't stop eating until guru sahib do kirpa and ofcourse they won't be able to concentrate on naam abhyaas... rehat is the most complicated topic and should never be argued upon... just follow pratham rehat eh jaan khande ki pahul chake and then the basic rehat told by 5 to follow... rest follow guru granth sahib ji maharaaj and improve the jeevni Bhul Chuk di Khima Daas vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Guru Sahib's HUKAM... **Dhrig tina ka jeeviya je likh likh veechey naao kheti jin ki ujre khalware kya thaao sache surume bahare agge lahe na daad Akal eh na aakhiye akal gavaayiye baad Akli sahib seviye akli paayiye maan Akli padd ke boojhiye akli keechey daan Nanak aakhe rah ehu hor galan saitaan** This HUKAM concludes everything... First tuks clear that Cursed is their life who just write books on naam or gursikhi without their own jeevni upto the mark. Then guru sahib said that it is not wisdom which leads to arguements... why are we doing arguements? It is not wisdom... its stupidity... if someone don't agree with the truth... guru sahibs hukam is **moorkhe naal na lujhiye** Then next tuk tells us use our wisdom leads us to serve lord and we should just pray to guru sahib to give us that knowledge that we can understand what is right and what is wrong... then next tuk tells us... Use ur wisdom to understand what someone writes... only guru sahib wrote truth in dhan shri guru granth sahib ji... rest everyone writes according to the limited knowledge they have... understand gurbani and follow... we can take help of veechaar by real chardi kala gurmukhs but not just anyone or everyone... Nanak says only this is the right path... rest everything is evil. So i request my dear veerjee and bhenjis to not to argue on things... understand gurbani... and follow it... this is the only rehat for gursikhs... well ofcourse the rehat told by 5 and rehat written in books is the minimum rehat wi thout which we are not sikhs at all but for improving jeevni every tuk in guru granth sahib ji maharaaj is a rehat... don't argue... just keep imbued in seva and simran... if someone has any doubt... just try to clear it with what knowledge guru sahib gave us but when it start going to arguement don't continue it and back out... no point arguing with moorakh... those who eat meat won't stop eating until guru sahib do kirpa and ofcourse they won't be able to concentrate on naam abhyaas... rehat is the most complicated topic and should never be argued upon... just follow pratham rehat eh jaan khande ki pahul chake and then the basic rehat told by 5 to follow... rest follow guru granth sahib ji maharaaj and improve the jeevni Bhul Chuk di Khima Daas vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! If the leaders eat meat they won't change... but if gursikhs are incharge it will change... its all politics... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Well every tuk in dhan shri guru granth sahib ji maharaaj is a rehat for gursikhs... the more we follow the better we are able to concentrate on naam achyaas and the more we are able to concentrate the more we are away from vekaars... well science say that eating meat creates kaam vikaar... then why we eat? Anyways going to pubs and doing sangat of saakat is not against the code of conduct... why we don't do that? think carefully... we obey rehat to improve our jeevni and not to fulfill any requirement of SGPC or something... every tuk in guru granth sahib ji is rehat and slowly we shall try to obey every HUKAM... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! We sometimes argue taking Guruji’s tuk **Mas mas kar moorakh jhagdee gyaan dhyaan nahin jaane, kaun maas kaun saak kahaave kin mein paap samaane** This is the biggest problem with us. We don’t study the whole shabad and see what is the actual meaning of Gurbani but instead we pick one phrase and starts argue. If we study this shabad completely Guru Nanak Dev ji wants to say in this shabad that the pandits (brahmins) who used to be away from meat and who used to argue for not eating meat. Their own jeevani was not upto the level that they can understand what is right or what is paap. In day time they used to argue for Maas but then they used to kill rino (gainda) to impress the gods/goddesses. At night they used to make plans how they can suck blood(cheat) other humans next day. So this shabad was written in that context and we just take one tuk and starts argue. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!