TavPrasad Singh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! The Royal Lancaster Hotel now has a recorded message about the protest. Therefore we must continue to use the email contacts we have. Its important to stress to Royal Lans that Maharaj cannot be keep overnight in the hotel. Also the religious advise they received from Suraj is wrong and as a result he has lost his job on Vectone TV. Royal Lancs have no right to agree to keep Maharaj overnight, they are not a Sikh religious institution allowed to make these decisions. I sent this email to Royal Lancs: To: 'car@royallancaster.com'; 'security@royallancaster.com' Subject: Your decision to house Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji overnight. Importance: High Dear Craig Robertson & Chris Spalding I have been informed by a reliable source that is related to the Bride’s family that your hotel will house Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji overnight (from evening of 22nd October till the end of the wedding on 23rd October). This is madness and I implore you not to be part of this blasphemy. The hotel does not have the facilities or the environment suitable for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the living Guru of Sikhs. Sikh respect Guruji by offering food 3 times a day. Also Guruji is put to rest in the evenings on a bed always on the highest point in the Temple. Guruji must be opened early morning & prayers recited. The Royal Lancaster might be good at the services it provides but they cannot think they can recreate a Sikh Temple & its environment. Your hotel complex will continue to stock alcohol, meat & tobacco and the bars will remain open. You will be making a terrible decision to partake in this and the Royal Lancaster Hotel will send a message out to the Sikh Community that will never be rectified. The Religious advisor to the family & who might have advised yourselves aswell (H Suraj) has been classified as a corrupt priest by the Sikh Community. Yesterday he lost his TV presenting role on Vectone Punjabi TV once the news got out that he will be part of this abuse to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. You can contact Bikramjit Singh of Vectone TV to verify this (0207 517 4322 press 0 after the message for reception or email info@vectone.tv). I cannot stress this enough please do not be part of this plan to keep Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji overnight at your premises regardless to what others may have said. It is against Sikh Religious code of conduct and will cause great distress to the Sikh Community. Your organisation or the Police do not have the right to make decisions on Sikh Religious issues; I feel you are being misadvised. I hope am hoping to a positive response to my guidance. Regards We need to keep the pressure on!

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Received this response from Craig Robertson: we are recording and passing on concerns raised by the various methods of correspondence to the family holding the event. As Chris mentioned we can only guide our clients who have hired our facilities unless they are in breach of the law. As no statues are to be broken at the Hotel, all we can do is raise your concerns with the wedding party. I don't doubt the upset this causes within the Sikh. Craig Their hands are not tied, that means thishotel bows down to wedding arrangers like Curry Special? If Lakeside in Camberly, Woburn Abbey & Baylis House have agreed not to allow Maharaj on their premises then whats stopping Royal Lancaster? Time to ring Curry Special, especially Paul's mobile.

Bhenji, ring Suraj directly on 01634 576100 :TH:

GurFateh! Received the same response from Royal Lancaster. Keep the pressure on!! They need to know the seriousness of the situation

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! We all must talk to the Hotel especially. UK organisations are sensitive to the concerns of Ethnic Communities. Can all ring & inform them of the importance Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji has for Sikhs. The hotel environment is not somewhere to do prakash of Guruji. Look towards informing them why Guruji cannot be taken to hotels. With Guruji's kirpa Royal Lancaster will understand & co-operate.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! Sangat Ji, I was just surfing the net and noticed that there are a load of websites where Namdharis are promoting their brand of “Sikhi”. Is there any site that has translations of the letters written by Baba Ram Singh from Rangoon condemning those who called him the Guru? The “history” Namdharis promote is weak and floored. Their “history” contradicts the thinking of Baba Ram Singh Kooka. We should get our resources together and set up a site that hosts all these letters and show the other side of the story - the truth! Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

"Harmander Singh, of the Sikhs in England organisation, said the issue was simply a matter of respect for the Sikh holy book, which was used in the ceremony and some members of the faith believed it was disrespectful for the book to be used in an inappropriate room." Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! This is the normal roll over and accept attitute of UK Sikh Organisations. The Respect for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Campaign is standing for a Panthic Issue, something that some UK Organisations cannot even contemplate or understand. From my experience I have hear White people refer to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as "Guruji", while representatives of the UK Sikh Community continue to call their Guru a book! I always thought UK Sikh Organisations were in place to educate others about our beliefs? Its great to see that UK Sikh Representatives think that the whole issue of Beadbi to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji can be resolved by finding "appropriate rooms in hotels". Why didnt Sri Akal Takht Sahib think of that, it just shows that we are more educated :TH:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! Does that include the Sikh community of Bedford and Woburn Abbey's board of directors?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!! http://www.panthic.org/news/124/ARTICLE/17...ef536ac46ce0736 Sikh Community Prevents Disrespect to Sikh Beliefs Sunday 18th September, 2005 Fauja Singh - Panthic Weekly Staff Bedfordshire, UK (KP) – This week a couple had to move their wedding to a different venue after the Sikh Community voiced their objections at original venue of the wedding. The wedding plan which was for it to take place in Woburn Abbey in Bedfordshire was abandoned and reallocated after members of Sikh community said they would hold a peaceful protest to prevent disrespect to Sikh religion and beliefs. The Sikh community objected to Guru Granth Sahib Ji being taken to a building which was exposed to alcohol and tobacco which are forbidden in Sikh religion. Anton Gazizov, 26, from Cambridge, and his bride-to-be Ranjit Virk, 28, from St Ives, have had to change their plans for Sunday's ceremony and hold the wedding at Ranjit's family home in St Ives before going on to a civil function at Woburn. Anton said they had been told that 400 members of the community were prepared to hold a peaceful protest on the day to prevent this act of sacrilege of Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Anton grew up in Cambridge and went to Trinity College and now works in London. Both Anton and Ranjit were rightly concerned that information about the wedding plans, which had been made given to members of Sikh community by the community of Oxford, as it subsequently correctly voiced was against the beliefs of Sikhism. Sri Akal Takath Sahib, the supreme authority of Sikhs worldwide, issued regulations in 1996 with regards to taking Guru Granth Sahib Ji to such places. Harmander Singh, of the Sikhs in England organisation, said the issue was simply a matter of respect for the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji., (mistakenly often refered to as a “holy Book”), to avoid bringing the Guru to such places that engage in practices that are incompatible with Sikh beliefs. Fauja Singh can be reached at fauja.singh@panthic.org

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! I have been following a discussion on www.barficulture.com It makes me feel that a few users of this forum find it really hard to believe in "GURU MANEO GRANTH" Your comments please http://barficulture.com/community/current/.../265/index.html

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! Picture from inside the Gurdwara!

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! True, but if the conspiracy is what it has been made out to be you would expect the Police to at least monitor Miri Piri Gurdwara. Shootings are still rare in UK, the Police would have acted immediately.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! Lets analyse this situation. Thekhdar was shot at 6.30pm, 6 times! By 10pm Punjab Radio news announced he was in "chardi kala" The Radio announce him as "Panth da Sevadar" The person who shot him was in "pura Sikhi saroop" No Police presence in Southall especially at Miri Piri Gurdwara No other Radio Station announced the news Interesting!!!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! I'm glad we have found our saviour in the form of sureal69. The lone ranger!! The problem is that Sureal69 thinks that Sikhi is the problem and is attacking its basic principles. My friend its good to know you is "chatting" with Guruji. The 2nd Generation of UK Sikhs who are "fanatics" havent even done 0.0001% of what Puratan Sikhs have done for the world, I wonder what you think of them? Get real, use your "chatting" abilities with Guruji and find out why you where your turban!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! There is also a hukamnama where Langar means vegetarian food only (no jhatka or eggs) issued by Akal Takht. Where there is Sadh Sangat, there will be Pangat aswell. The Pangat will partake in Langar which must be vegetarian. Food in the presence of Guruji is vegetarian, its simple not anti panthic.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! Please can all, especially around West London, spread the word about these corrupt Granthis. They have no right to be Guruji's wazirs, shame on them. I hear that Gurcharan is a free lance and can been found doing programmes at different gurdwaras in Southall. Please can the sangat talk to committees to get Gurcharan banned. Please can all around West London print out the pictures of Gurcharan and poster then on Gurdwara Notice boards saying "BANNED FROM THIS GURDWARA BECAUSE HE IS A MASSAND" Also can all contact Akash Radio, corrupt Kulvinder cannot be allowed to do parchar to the sangat, he's a fraud. Akash Radio cannot turn a blind eye to this: Akash Radio Unit 14, Arches Business Centre Merrick Road Southall Middx UB2 4AU United Kingdom T: 020 8843 0999 F: 020 8843 0088 E: info@akashradio.com W: www.akashradio.com Kulvinder is Granthi at Miri Piri Gurdwara. This Gurdwara is headed by pakhandi Thekedar who organises protests outside the Indian High Commision, but sells Guruji every weekend. The speed in which he was able to provide a Guru Maharaj saroop alongwith a corrupt granthi defies belief! Miri Piri Gurdwara has created a lastminutegranthi.com business and we need to break it! GURDWARA MIRI PIRI SAHIB 253/263 THE BROADWAY SOUTHALL Middlesex UBI 1NF Phone: 020-85713926 FAX: 020-85713926 E-mail: rathour_chardikala@hotmail.co.uk These people are running a BUSINESS not PARCHAR. It is time we closed their shops. We have to make these people rethink their careers! Guruji is not a commodity! Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the divine light of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Sikhs gave their wealth, families & lives up for the Guru Sahibs, why is there a difference when it comes to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Sikhi does not provide wedding services! Guru Maharaj is not a wedding machine! The information is in front of all. Lets then attempt to stop this corruption. The Sangat has to stand against beadbi towards Guruji, its the duty of a Sikh. Why? Because a Sikh loves & respects his Guru and the blessings he always showers upon his disciples. Ring the above numbers, send emails, write letters, personally visit, do what you can! GurFateh!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji KI Fateh!! The Campaign has the backing of 80 Gurdwaras in the UK who have declared that they will never partake in taking Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji to hotels, clubs, banqueting halls & other place serving alcohol & meat etc. Also they declare their alliance to the Akal Takht hukamnama that has banned this bad practice. Awareness & support is already there. The National Council of Gurdwaras have passed a resolution in this effect aswell. GurFateh!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! The fundemental point is being missed here. The basic fact is that there are corrupt Granthis out there who are selling Guruji & Sikhi Maryada for their personal gains. This was proved by the fact that 2 saroops of Guru Maharaj were recovered by the Sikh Community. We have a rot within our community. These granthis are a cancer spreading pandit like advise and rituals. Families are either naive or faithless, in both cases the corrupt granthi makes his money playing on this! The Granthi who came up & performed the pathetic wedding on Sunday with a Gutka reflects how much respect is out there for Guruji. The respect given to Gurbani has bee established by Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji & folloing Guru Sahibs aswell as Gursikhs. Gurbani is our Guru, thats why we refer to the "pages" as angs (limbs). Guru Gobind Singh's horse refused to take Guruji through a field of tabacco, however todays "gursikhs" wish to take Guruji anywhere justifying this with weak arguments. Please look at reality. Its a farce, its abusing Sikh Maryada. Today weddings are not about parchar, its a ritual that must be done. We have move so far away from the truth we are willing to take Guruji with us. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Now I dont think anyone in their right mind would want to take Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji to a Banqueting Hall. You would feel ashamed to even ask Guruji to go there. Think twice! Just because a Granthi says its okay it might not be! Distributing Gurbani with Hotels & to wider communities is far off. Look closer to home first within our community, strengthen our roots with respect, reading & practice of Gurbani. Wouldnt you respect Gurbani without which there is no Sikhi? We have to stop these bad practices. We are called Sikhs, which means disciple, follower of the faith. Sikhs are now the Guru & Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the Sikh - Kaljug! I worry when people compare their homes to hotels, banqueting halls and clubs. Do the same things happen in your homes? Do people vomit in your toilets? are drugs sold by security guards? Do prositutes use your home? Do all the lies and immoral acts happening in these places happen in your home? There is a difference in the homes of Sikhs & hotels. There is a chance to do parchar in someone's house, for them to get love for Gurbani. When Guruji is brought into someone's house than family have a wish, say a illness to be cured, peace between family members, a thanksgiving. When Guruji is taken to hotels etc by Corrupt Granthis funded by So called Sikh Families the only wish here is to do a ritual in front of the world and party on! If that wasnt the case then why is Guruji taken from the site immediately once the "ritual" is complete? We are a pathetic community, why can we not be like White people.If they dont believe in thier religion they dont even attempt to practice it. Many members of the Punjabi community dont believe in Sikhi but feel they have to practice it, with their egos the want to put their own spin on Sikhi, lets have the Anand Karaj at Hilton Hotel!! The filth that is generated over years within these hotels would make a real gursikh ashamed to even ask a Gurdwara or Granthi that they wish to have a wedding in a place openly serving & consuming alcohol, cigarettes & meat. Within these hotel weddings people put up cloths to cover the bars. Are we so naive to think that white cloths have specials powers that block Guruji from knowing? Akal Takht has issued a hukamnama that Langar has to be vegetarian. Now if there is an Anand Karaj which is Guruji's maryada then the food distributed on the day is langar, it must be vegetarian! What gives us the right to differenciate? GurFateh!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! These committee Massands had already organised the "Cultural Programme" in advance. Either it show their stupidity that they are so thick that the dont understand what belly dancing is or their blatant ignorance that they are Gurdwara & Community representatives. They do not know the responsibility that comes with the role. But most likely it shows these committee members are filth and their thinking is disgusting. They needed and excuse to make half naked women dance, what better reason than a programme that commemorates the Shaheedi of Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji. These people are not capable of being community heads. They should be made to stand at the doorway of the Gurdwara and each member of the Sangat should slap them when entering or leaving. The committee is made up of 21 daughter sellers.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! This is the lowest I have seen a committee stoop. Even the most harden person will not make kajjarias dance to remember Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji’s Shaheedi. It’s Massa Ranga reborn in the form of Lembar Su & gang. They blatantly lie to the Sangat than meat will not be served on the day. However a massive tent was set up by caterers. This has to have been organised a couple of weeks in advance. People were walking free with cans of beers & cigarettes. The Massands lied saying they will enforce a ban on booze. Thirdly belly dancers do not just turn up on the day. Someone organised them. That committee member has no shame, probably would have made him mother, wife & daughters dance on the day if the belly dancers backed out. Massands cannot run Gurdwaras! This committee is full of 21 Massands, lying, cheating and selling Sikhi. Lembar Su said to the Sangat that he will always support anything that promotes Sikhi! The resignation of him & his gang of daughter sellers will help Sikhi in East London.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! “Guru Arjan Dev Ji Shaheedi” Cultural & Sports Tournament. Currently this tournament has been advertised as “Guru Arjan Dev Ji Shaheedi” in the Punjabi Press. Flyers distributed by the Organisers locally have the tournament’s name as “Shaheedi”. Yesterday the committee of Sri Guru Singh Sabha London East met with the Local Sangat regarding “Guru Arjan Dev Ji Shaheedi” Cultural & Sports Tournament. The committee promised to adhere to the following points: 1) The name of the tournament will be changed for next year & following years, this includes removing the term Shaheedi. 2) There will be a complete alcohol ban this year within the grounds. Police will enforce this and drunkenness will not be tolerated. This will be mirrored & improved on in following years. 3) No serving of meat this year and in future years. The committee has promised the above in the presence of the Local Sangat. The proof will be on the day.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! I have noticed that one Divan will be at Chapel Town Gurdwara Leeds I hope that the Sangat inform Babaji about what goes at this Gurdwara. The Gurdwara hire out their associated hall, next door to the Gurdwara, for parties allowing meat & alcohol on the premises. The music from the hall can be heard in the darbar sahib. In fact the divan will be so packed that the Sangat should demand that the committee stop this beadbi!! These massand commitee members need to answer and act on the demands of the Sangat.... GurFateh!!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! East London Sangat will be peacefully protesting about “Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji Shaheedi” Cultural & Sports Tournament outside Sri Guru Singh Sabha London East, Seven Kings, Ilford, Essex IG3 8ST. This will coincide with the Naujawan Kirtan Darbar and Sri Akhand Paath being held in memory of the shaheeds of 1984. The memory of our shaheeds is being abused by the committee of Sri Guru Singh Sabha London East. They have reduced the sacrifices by our Shaheeds to an annual drink up in a park by organising this tournament. June is a month where we remember those who lived and died for the honour of the Sikh Panth, 12 June 2005 is a day where the honour of our shaheeds will be abused. We are willing to walk around London in memory of ’84 Shaheeds. Are we will to stand up and stop this committee abusing the name, memory and principles of our Shaheeds? The Sangat is appealing for your presence - 4th June 05 from 7pm onwards.