Harmeet Singh

This is an equally biased an uninformed remark which may have subtle racism against caucasian people. Not all gorey are bad I have been much respected by them than Indians. That seems like a really bogus claim as myself and including hundreds of other sikhs can claim not only the mechanized humiliation of many indians againsts sikhs but even the uncivilized poking of jokes in the media. Again you are comparing RSS with civilized people and implying probablyCo RSS( a repressive outfit of India's sangh parivar) is better. Compare rightly

Dear Mr Singh Thank you for your e-mail which I have only recently received in regard to the BBC documentary: 'Indira Gandhi - The Killing of Mother India'. My apologies I have been unable to reply before now. I very much regret that our programme has caused you distress, and of course, that was not our intention at all. We went to great lengths to ensure the documentary was not biased or inaccurate, and feel we succeeded. Among several allegations you make about the programme's 'bias', you claim that 'the program was completely one sided without giving any regard to the genocide that happened on June 6 1984. You overlook the fact that roughly 3 of the first 5 minutes of the film were dedicated to a reconstruction and analysis of the anti-Sikh riots in 1984. Thereafter the film's commentary clearly states the 'incalculable damage caused in the hearts and minds of Sikhs around the world', in the wake of Operation Bluestar, and the 'violation of their holiest shrine'. Sant Jarnail Singh Bindrinwale has been repeatedly described for many years as 'extremist and fundamentalist' by a wide variety of Sikh and non-Sikh politicians and journalists, as well as eyewitnesses to the events that occurred in the Punjab between 1980 and 1984. We spoke to several of them - many more than appeared in the film. Thereafter we went to great lengths to invite contributions from interviewees who reflected a wide variety of opinion. Many were highly critical of Indira Gandhi, and at least one was a passionate supporter of Bindrinwale. I hope you will understand that our programme never set out to be about the tragedy of Operation Bluestar or the grievances of the Sikh community during Indira Gandhi's term in office. While a highly significant episode in India's history, you will understand we were covering a period of over 50 years. If you felt our analysis was overly simplified, this explains why. While I regret the offence you individually have taken to our programme, I am afraid I feel the film is a fair and accurate account and cannot agree with your opinions. Thank you for taking the trouble of contacting me. Yours sincerely, NICK READ Producer - 'Indira Gandhi - The Killing of Mother India'

http://www.petitiononline.com/baba420/petition.html Please do sign this petition To: Jathedar Sri Akal Takhat Sahib Singh Sahib Jathedar Sri Akal Takht Sahib Ji, Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh We the Sikh Sangats from various Gurudwaras in the USA, Canada and Europe are highly disturbed and extremely saddened by the immoral activities of Baba? Daljit Singh of Chicago. There is irrefutable evidence against Baba? Daljit Singh. This documented evidence proves that he has been involved in extramarital relationships and other immoral activities. The documentary evidence to support these claims includes: 1. Baba? Daljit Singh was caught on the night of November 17-18, 2005 in a Wauconda Motel with a woman other than his wife. There were eyewitnesses to his presence in room number 5. They eyewitnesses have signed a sworn and notarized affidavit. 2. Amritsar Times, a very popular newspaper published from California, investigated the entire incident and printed a thorough report. This report includes police reports and other interviews that confirm the immoral activities of Baba? Daljit Singh. 3. There are police reports and records confirming Baba? Daljit Singh’s presence at the Motel and his being in room number 5 with a woman. Also, a law firm has conducted independent interviews with the police officers and confirmed that all the information relating to the Baba? And his hotel night is in fact true. 4. Baba? Daljit Singh has also collected money in the name of being a Sikh Parcharak and has misused the funds collected in this manner. Because Baba? Daljit Singh claimed to be righteous and upstanding Sikh. However, this was just a mask to cover-up his true intentions of misleading innocent Sikh Sangats. We appeal to you to take strong action against a man who pretends to be upholding Sikh values and ideals. We expect that this Baba? Daljit Singh will not be given any opportunity to ever speak or use any Panthic outlets to address any congregations as a Sikh leader. He has used his power and influence as a Sikh Preacher to amass personal wealth and has abused and defamed the honorable role of Sikh Preachers. The Akal Takht Sahib should ban Baba? Daljit Singh from representing the Sikh people and the Sikh faith. The Akal Takht Sahib should excommunicate Baba? Daljit Singh from the Sikh Panth. Also, all of Baba? Daljit Singh’s wealth, personal and from his various Deras, should be distributed among those less fortunate. These funds should be particularly distributed to the victims of 1984 both those in Punjab and those who suffered in the Delhi pogroms. We humbly put this information before you in hopes of your favorable response. We thank you for your efforts and time. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Sincerely, ADMINISTRATOR NOTE : Topic has been discussed before and has ended in topic getting out of hand therefore, this topic is closed. Whether you want to join in the petition or not, let it be at your own discretion. For more information, please e-mail contact@sikhsangat.com

what is the source of the pic , is this edited in photoshop or not?

hey "namstang" where did you get this pic from?

some of the 3HO people I have come across are just innocent and are following things without knowing anything others seem rude. POsted by Dhan Singh: http://forums.delphiforums.com/KamallaRose...ages/?msg=840.1 This is a critique of a ‘testimony’ at the sikhnet website (i.e. 3HO). The title is “Kundalini yoga & sikh dharma”. Please understand this was written by a 3HO (cult) member promoting the use of kundalini yoga as being congruent with the practices of the Sikh religion. Mainstream Sikhs don’t practice yoga. 1.” It is the shabad guru which unites us to the infinite, through meditation on the Siri Guru Granth Sahib. Kundalini yoga prepares us to hear that shabad.” “Kundalini yoga prepares us to hear that shabad”. What a blanket statement. What is this statement based on. The author doesn’t use any citations to support this statement. Surely the sggs doesn’t mention that kundalini yoga prepares one to hear that shabad. What does the author base this statement on. Because the author makes the statement does that make it a fact. 2. “it is a historical fact that almost all people who chose to become Sikhs were inspired to do so through the practice of kundalini yoga” again, what does the author base this statement on. Just because the author made the statement does not make it true or factual. Where’s the citations? The ONLY ‘almost all people” that do this are, again, 3HO members, the cult members. 3.” I believe that by the grace of guru ram das, the teachings of kundalini yoga were brought out of India to the west …” why would one of the sikh ten guru want to spread the teachings of kundalini yoga…..something the sikh mainstream sikh panth does not practice. 4.”kundalini yoga is the householders yoga”. Again another blanket statement, with nothing to support. I’ve researched the sankrit tantric literature extensively, and nowhere did I see anything to support this contention. .“guru nanak admonished the yogis of his time that they were on the wrong path ...this is true. He did teach that yoga itself is bad and in anyway incongruent with the life of a sikh.” “yogis…on the wrong path”. Yes, that is why there is approximately 25 million Sikhs in the world. And the only ones doing yoga are the 1,500 hardcore members of the 3HO cult. 6. “how else can we explain the miracle of so many westerners coming to the feet of sggs through the practice of kundalini yoga” “the miracle of so many”, yea there’s about 1,500 3HO cult members. man is that a “so many”….i better take my shoes off so I can use my toes to count them. Yes truly a miracle.

no pics were taken becasue it was forbidden by police to picture the private property. for complete info go to www.amritsartimes.com according to sheriff he was found with a woman in the motel. no report was made because under the law adultry is not illegal but police incidence report was made.

As far as I know Bhai Jinda and Bhai Sukha got their hari cut to kill the criminal vaidya. Cynthia Mahmood also mentions this in her book

PLR is fake , the TV channel was probabaly doing it for business reasons The "past life' is the creation of the hypnotist and random subconsious mind which is in control of the hypnotist and so he can do what ever he wants. --create a past life etc

Oh really then shouldn’t we change the name of amritsar, anadpur sahib, goidwal, Hargbind pur etc which were all occupied lands by Gurus in defence against the Mughals..They were all free lands..Khalistan is a word, the idea is freedom you want khalsa raaj fine (whats the difference between it and concept of khalistan) ..in order to fight against mughals singhs always had free lands to fight from. GO and read ur history mate stop twisting history

randip veerji I have been talking about that article, it is biased and absolutly misleading. Gurbani has deeper meanings and it doesn't needs scholars for explanation. Please read recent reasearchs on how eating flesh gives gums and teeth a bad shape. I know vegan people can become deficient in iron and Vit b12 but if they drink milk and green vegetables it would be all fine...

I have been thru that article it doesn't discusses the deeper meaning. it is taking gurbani as a law code which is completly twisting the meaning. You cannnot traslate the guru granth sahib into english and get its meaning. Understand in the language it is written in. take for example one shabd traslated as "What can be achieved by eating and what by dressing, so long as that True Lord abides not in the man's mind? What is fruit, what clarified butter and sweet molasses, what fine flour and what meat? WRONG!! Guru sahib is saying what is use of fruit, butter, meat etc when God doesn't adibe in heart, the traslated version says something else. same goes for others. the article says plants feel the pain and are same as animals that is unconceivable. lets take an example. Everytime in gurbani it is written we eat what we sow. We eat our harvest, we eat the plant out of it... Very good analogy to explain the fact of life. aap beej aapay hee khaavay. Now if we eat meat is it our harvest? why is eating meat not used as analogy to something really good? Guru sahib says Having our life and what we acheive is analogous to sowing seeds and eating plants. So eating plants is the natural traslation of law of karm for our understanding. It really matters if we want to or not.

ang 1103 jee-a baDhahu so Dharam kar thaapahu aDhram kahhu kat bhaa-ee You kill living beings, and call it a righteous action. Tell me, brother, what would you call an unrighteous action? aapas ka-o munivar kar thaapahu kaa ka-o kahhu kasaa-ee. ||2|| tussi apne app nu wade rishi muni akhvande ho te dasso fer ksai kina to kehne ho? although we cant understand gurbani by taking it as a prose. We need to understand it by heart. According to me kabir sahib is exposing the hypocrisy of brahmins and also saying that if killing Jiaa(beings with heart/emotions or feeling not plants) for God is righteous then what is unreighteous? So I think killing such beings for eating is not righteous

Another of yogi bhajan's crack pot science just a different trick used here inthe west than by the babas of punjab. people are just so innocent to follow him blindly without looking at what Guru says.

http://www.khalistan-affairs.org/home/khal...november02.aspx India's 'appointed' Prime minister Manmohan Singh insults the memory of the thousands of innocent Sikh victims of the state-supervised November 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms by placing a wreath on mass murderer HKL Bhagat's deathbed The three synchronized bomb blasts in Delhi last Saturday which went off simultaniously have the fingerprints & footprints of Indian Intelligence agencies Washington, D.C., Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - While the twenty five million strong Sikh nation is remembering, with sadness and deep anguish, the thousands of innocent Sikh men, women and children who were murdered between October 31 and and November 04, 1984, (during the state-sponsored and state-supervised India-wide mass killings which took place exactly twenty one years ago) India's appointed Prime minister Manmohan Singh (who wears a Sikh turban and claims he is a Sikh) publicly insulted the memory of those thousands of innocent Sikh victim's last Sunday - on October 30, 2005 - during a public funeral of a mass murderer in Delhi, India. Lest we forget; an excellent, very moving and spine-chilling eye witness audio account of that week-long November 1984 state-sponsored pogrom, covering the bloody happenings in India's capital city Delhi, in which thousands of Sikhs were murdered by Hindu mobs rampaging under Police supervision, (narrated by a Punjabi writer, Ms. Ajeet Kaur, recorded under the auspices of the South Asia Literature programme of the U.S. Library of Congress, headlined 'November 1984',) can be heard by clicking at the following link: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/mbrs/master/salrp/07202.mp3) Or one can go down to the Gurdwara Shaheedan in Delhi where Sikh widows, of November 1984 carnage, walk down the narrow steps to a gurdwara basement gallery where walls are crammed with pictures of their loved ones lynched by mobs 21 years ago. At Gurdwara Shahidan in Delhi, the Sikh widows pray not just for the lost ones, or for justice, or rehabilitation, but for thousands of the unemployed, emotionally disturbed, second-generation survivors driven to drugs and crime who wander outside in clusters like zombies with glassy looks. For details read the very sad story of the forgotten Sikh victims of the November 1984 pogram, in todays Tribune newspaper, headlined, "After ’84 riots they are now fighting drugs". (www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20051103/punjab1.htm#9) Last Sunday, on October 30, 2005, 'poster-boy' Indian Prime minister Manmohan Singh bared his 'Quisling' soul, (and disgusted and angered every self-respecting Sikh) by personally going and placing a floral wreath on the death-bed of one of the main organizers of that November 1984 pogrom, the late H. K. L. Bhagat, the mass murderer who was among the few indicted by the wishy washy Nanavati Commission for allegedly instigating the anti-Sikh mass killings of November 1984 in Delhi. The English language has an expression for just this kind of wicked, 'in your eye', calculated rudeness which has been directed at every Sikh by PM Manmohan Singhs' evil action. It is called a 'studied insult'. Mr. Manmohan Singh has insulted the 25 million strong Sikh nation by honoring a thug whose hands are covered with the blood of thousands of innocent Sikh men women and children who were murdered in the November 1984 state-supervised pogrom in Delhi. A photograph of shameless Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh paying homage with flowers at the death-bed of that mass murderer of Sikhs, H. K. L. Bhagat, (who was a confidant of Rajiv Gandhi and his widow, Sonia Gandhi) has been published in the Jalandhar-based independent Punjabi newspaper Ajit, Indian occupied Punjab, on October 31, 2005, and can be seen by clicking at: www.ajitjalandhar.com/20051031/general.htm Last Sunday's wicked behavior of 'Prime minister' Manmohan Singh - he did not feel any pangs of shame or guilt - when he honoured that mass murderer of the Sikhs HKL Bhagat reminds one of a line, written in 1711, by that great English satirist, and man of letters, Jonathan Swift (1667-1745) in one of his many books, 'Thoughts on various subjects'. It reads, "I never wonder to see men wicked, but I often wonder to see them not ashamed." Incidently, Jonathan Swift is renowned in South Asia for his 1726 masterpiece, 'Gullivers Travels'. No wonder Mrs. Sonia Maino Gandhi, (the Italian widow of that mass murderer who ordered the November 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms Prime minister Rajiv Gandhi) appointed the submissive, cringing, crawling, poster-boy Manmohan Singh as Prime minister in May 2004 to ensure the continuity of the Nehru dynasty which has ruled squalidly India for over forty years since the British Colonials left the Indo/Pak/ Bangladesh subcontinent in 1947. Mr. Manmohan Singh, 71, a shameless glorified 'Babu' is supposed to secure the Indian Prime Minister's 'throne' till Sonia's polyglot unread son, the effiminiate 37 years old bachelor, Rahul Gandhi matures in politics. The boy, as every political observor is predicting, is going to eventually claim - 'democratically' - the Prime minister's chair from the corrupt mental midgets politicians who pass as India's ruling elite. Readers will recollect that, over a year ago there were some misgivings and questions when, the Khalistan Calling of June 09, 2004, was headlined, "Sikhon` ko Dr. Manmohan Singh kay prime minister bunnay say kyaamila?" --- "What did the Sikhs gain from Mrs Sonia Gandhi's appointment of a Sikh, as Prime minister of India?"(www.khalistan-affairs.org/khalistancalling/2004/june09.aspx) Events are slowly proving the correctness of the year-old observation that Mr. Manmohan Singh is no Sikh-friendly 'Sikh' and is only a lackey of the Nehru dynasty. We believe the vital interests of the Sikh Homeland of Punjab (like its river waters, SYL canal, future of Chandigarh, agricultural economy, Punjab's industrial development and issues like the import of natural Gas from Pakistan in exchange for river water et al.,) are in grave danger of being ignored during the tenure of a government led by a person like Manmohan Singh, in a country whose jingoistic Bania/Brahmin dominated ruling elite engages in economic exploitation and state sponsored terrorism as a matter of state policy to further its foreign policy goals. State terror is also employed to keep umpteen sub-nations like the Nagas, Sikhs, Kashmiris, Mizos et al., subservient. Arranging synchronized bomb blasts in neighboring countries (a la the over seven hundred synchronized bomb blasts in Bangladesh in one day in August 2005) or sending terrorists like Sarabjit Singh to blast bombs among civillians in Pakistan or orchestrating communal massacres, like the 2002 Gujarat massacres of Muslims, are routine matters for morally repugnant Indian intelligence operatives. Remember the Chithisinghpura massacre of innocent Kashmiri Sikhs villagers orchestrated by Indian Intelligence Agencies to synchronize with President Clinton's state visit to India or the phony December 2001 attack on the Indian parliament, a copy cat of the September 11, 2001 New York terrorist attacks on the World Trade towers or the recent sham armed attack on the destroyed Babri mosque site in U.P. to rake up the Ram Mandir communal issue again? The timing and modus operandi of last Saturdays three synchronized bomb blasts in Delhi, which were tailored to India's current policies on Kashmir, point a finger at Indian Intelligence. The blasts were a typical handicraft of Indian operatives because they pass the famous 'Duck test.' When it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and looks like a duck, it is a duck! Whenever India has engaged in 'dramas' like this in the past (like when Indian agencies murdered dozens of Kashmiri Sikhs in Chattisinghpura, in Indian-held Kashmir, during President Clinton's state visit to India) it does a number of things - force of habit. First among them is that an appeal for calm is issued, directed at the unread Indian masses, by the head of the government and it is always in English to impress the international community. This appeal is usually followed by an ugly incident involving Pakistani diplomats in Delhi. (www.rediff.com/news/2005/nov/03staff.htm) That is followed by a street protest, outside the Pakistan High Commission in Delhi, led by that notorious Rent-A-Sikh Manjinderpal Singh Bitta, (www.ajitjalandhar.com/20051031/general.htm) President of the so-called All India Anti-Terrorist Front. This is followed by a telephoned claim by some unknown Kashmiri organization claiming responsibility for the ghastly event. (http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/nov/03dblast4.htm) All the above actions/reactions were repeated this week in India. According to our sources in India, the rulers in Delhi are having second thoughts on the Indo/Pak agreement reached under International (Read U.S.) pressure, on General Musharraf's daring suggestion, to open five points along the Kashmir Ceasefire Line ostensibly to provide better access for relief workers to earthquake victims on both sides. This open border at five points, between Indian & Pakistani held parts of disputed Kashmir, is a public relations trump card played by the Pakistani President which does not suite India at all. The rulers in Delhi know that the openings will encourage aspirations for an independent multi-ethnic Kashmir for which a strong lobby is steadily gaining ground in Pakistan as well as India. That is why Indian officials were quick to claim that there is evidence (all of them from Indian Prime minister Manmohan Singh downwards speak ONLY in English when their operatives have arranged a synchronized terrorist event or bomb blast) that 'foreign militants were involved in Saturday's three synchronized bomb attacks in Delhi', in which at least 62 people are reported to have died. There is no evidence of any kind that this is so! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/south_asia/4393532.stm) It is quite possible that tomorrow, just before the SAARC regional meeting (which is being held in Dacca, Bangladesh, in a few days) India may uncover evidence of a Bangladeshi hand in the three Delhi bomb blasts to put that country on the defensive. Day after tomorrow Delhi might claim, if it suits them at that point in time, that a Sikh group was responsible for the bomb blasts which seem to be synchronized with the twenty first anniversary of the November 1984 anti/Sikh Delhi pogrom. (www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20051103/main2.htm#2) All these options are in-house advantages for a country like India, which sponsors state terrorism (including the murder of its own citizens) inside the country as well outside

That was a general statement. I said depending upon the reservoir, read carefully. Bhakhra runs 24/7 along with all other BBMB dams. There has been only one time when Bhakra was cut during peak off hours. The thing is even in driest months of winter Bhakhra is made to throttle turbines on overload to feed power hungry delhi and haryana. All turbines are provided by different penstocks/tunnels. Incase of Bhkhra there are two plants. So they keep rotating one tunnel after the other. The riparian region has the first right of electricity not non riparian region of Delhi or Harayana. If so they must pay to Punjab.

thats a wrong information Hydro-electric is the fastest to respond to increasing power demands, reaching full power in about two to three minutes. These plants can provide both base load and peak load demands for power, at a relatively low cost but are limited by the amount of water available. In case of Punjab being the riparian state it is not even given the its rightful demand of electricity. The electricity produced by BBMB is illegaly sent to Harayana and Delhi. Not only that the BSNL tunnel made from Pandoh to Sundernagar in Himachal Pradesh is illegal and defines all the riparian laws.( A useful tactic by india to dump the beas into sutlej for bhakra) It depends in case of punjab the POng, Bhakra , and Dehar are the 24 /7 working plants. Wrong information ie in case you have one turbine. Bhakra has two power plants (more than 10 turbines) both produce huge energy. Dehar and Pong also produce a lot without any huge interruption. The rest of the info becomes unreliable

While Discussing Op Bluestar one must remain mindful about the role of SGPC and Tohra in Op Bluestar. Both SGPC and Tohra are under legal jurisdictions of Indian Government. SGPC and its presidents and all the workers have to remain under the boundaries given by GOI. The funds of SGPC remain under the scrutiny of GOI including its elections. One wonders why GOI never allowed elections for the 25 years when Tohra remianed President. 1st Part President rule was declared on Punjab on OCt 7, 1983. According to this all the powers of state get transffered to center and that includes SGPC and that of Mr Tohra too. Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale was not in the Akal Takht at this time. 2nd Part (After the President's rule) Tohra told Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale that lets do ardas at the akaal takht and protest from there to get Ananadpur sahib resolution passed. Sant Bhindrawale and Tohra agreed as it was good idea. Tohra allowed the Morcha to protest from Akal takht in december,1983 with a prayer. Now how did Sant Bhindrawale entered Akal Takht without the permission of Indian Government. when SGPC was under GOI? He obviously didn't take it over. 3rd Part Tohra knew army would come in as Sant Bhindrawale won't deter from the Prayer he would make at the Akal takht. The army would come and show that Sant Bhindrawale has "taken over" Akal Takht. So President rule was laid on punjab full six months before the GOI unleashed terror at the Darbar Sahib. Weapons at Darbar Sahib: Punjab Police IG Mr Bhinder caught Army trucks and SGPC car sewa trucks smuggling arms into the Darbar Sahib. WOW that too under President's rule? Well they were aloowed to go on the orders from above. Hey Bush also said there are weapons of Mass destruction in Iraq? No person worth a pich of truth in him can believe what GOI says it found at the Darbar Sahib as it was done under compelte information black out. why was blackout done? That even raises more question os type of lies and fabricated stories circulated after the aftermath of operation. Questions: 1 Why did GOI allow a person whom it called a "terrorist" to enter a place which under close scrutiny of GOI and that too during the President's rule? 2. If SGPC President is sovereign than his decision to allow Sant Bhindrawale into Akal Takht can't be challenged. 3. If Sant Bhindrawale was a terrorist was why person who allowed him to do prayer akal takht not arrested..Tohra?

So you do believe that indian army is a hitler. than thats my point..your grievience only for one and not for others because others are muslims is nothing short of selfishness.

Mehtab If I offened you in any way , I am sorry and if your comments are directed towards me Directly or indirectly, Let me tell you that it takes guts and spine to get the truth, if we all really care about who has been bombing dfelhi in recent days why is it so hard then to get to him? Truth is sharper than sword. If you think I have a stone heart that being a sikh because non sikhs have died I don't care then you are 100% wrong my veer. Your assumptions that we hate non sikhs is far from reality just becasue I say that the saintly GOI is itself first a terrorist. can't we see the both pictures. even if pakistani have bombed Delhi why do people run away from mourning when GOI's army extrajudically kills thousands in the valley. For them Army is performing there duties but sometime mistakes happen. What more of a inhumane attitude is this. Have we mourned on them?

it is funny how india always wants the land taken by pakistan but why it doesn't want the land taken by mighty china? <<Since I was a direct witness to the 84' riots, I had a dislike for the congress and I never pinned responsibility for that on 'hindus'. Though in 88 I had to change my opinion about the opposing party called BJP/RSS when they destroyed the 'Babri masjid' because I was seeing for the second time a lawless bunch run amock, the country looked truly like a banana republic. My class @ that time had a few muslim girls as students as well and I was pretty shocked when I saw some hindus give 'high-fives' on destruction of babri masjid etc. I mean these are people who rarely talked anything about religion at all, I continued to be shocked when general people were supporting 'small-minded' policies of hindu parties like BJP/RSS.>> Have you ever analyzed why people still elect such parties. Sikhs were butchered in india and still people elected congress in january 85. <<Then much later in my life I investigated more deeply on the reasons behind hindu behaviour, it seems that hindus have a deep complex about a lot of things which they maintain to this day. Kashmir was basically a hindu and buddhist area before the Islamists came and converted the local through the threat of sword. Hindus were continually oppressed till the Dogras and Sikhs took control of kashmir. I have had the opportunity to interact with a lot of kashmiri hindus in my life and the one thing that comes across shortly is their lack of self-confidence and spiritlessness. They seem very vulnerable.>> And how many budhists did shankrchrya killed? <<Then there are Kashmiri Shias who are as patriotic Indians as anybody, especially because they have examples to the north of their border in Gilgit and Baltistan who are continually being repressed everyday (don't believe me, just google for it & u'll know what I am talkin about). These people do not want anything else than be part of India and people in Gilgit and Baltistan curse the day when the sunni islamic entity called pakistan became the purveyors of their lives.>> Raju you say you are christain, Do you know how many Naga christains has your beloved india killed? They want their own land and certainy dont feel any indian in them. <<So Kashmiri Hindus (who are 30%), Shias, buddhists do not want to be part of anything else but India except for a few sunni muslim perpetually unsatisfied jokers then they got to be dreaming to think that India is going to give up even an inch of territory for their dream of another Islamic state in the subcontinent. India is committed not to let another Islamic entity take root in its neighbourhood whatsoever be the cost.>> For a few sunni population? check your facts they form 96% in the valley and 46% in ladakh. The problem with indian community are in these assumption 1. ANybody who attacks indian army is a terrorist. 2. Everywhere in India who want freedom are terrorists. 3. All movements are supported by Pakistan 4. All movements are parrallel to each other. 5. India is an ancient country where there was a consensus between people of one religion and one land. Propaganda of India " when it comes to unity of country human rights take a back seat" indian police officer KPS Gill So a country where ideas that human rights take a back seat and opression takes a front seat are hailed is an indication of mindless slavery. How different is indian system thatn the terrorist system which it claims to be fighting against? Kashmir problem: Indian media promotes kashmir problem is parrallel to the punjab. Punjab problem was based on state rights and discrimation caused by the legal system of india especially labelling them as hindus. The the movement for khalistan was labelled as a terrorist movement. Kashmir was based because pakistan wanted to have regrandum in kashmir(UN resolution 1948) What so hard in it? It doesn't matter if they are sunni or shia there should be an open refrandum in kashmir based on ethnic line on who wants to stay with india or not.

There is no good in debating you Mr Raju. How can Indians decide what kashmiris want? do kashmiris decide what indians want? regarding the rape of a kashmiri women by terrorists. Do you even know how many rapes indian army has done in kashmir. Indian army uses rape as a technique to harrass islamic families as in islamic culture they ussually kill the women if she is raped. what a way by the indian army and indians to justify the unity of nation. what you are suggesting is the that the terrorist indian army should rape, kill and opress the majority if the so called utopian akhund bharat is threatened. this is the least level of animalistic behaviour shown by who sing kheer , paneer and kashmir. let kashmiris decide what they want. don't dictate them. By making the border states like punjab,kshmir and northeast the least industrilized ones and discriminating them on lawful grounds you are denying the the justice to them and promoting the terrorism of india. You went far from getting their voice heard thru refrandum, let them live and have a refrandum in kashmir. GOI knws kashmirs would never opt for india as they were never part of india.

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh khalsa ji I heard your speech once on BBC radio where you were saying that India should allow a refrandum in punjab on khalistan. Veer ji I think it is good idea but the timing for it (if we do it now) would be very dangerous. Sikhs are not a big majority in punjab as it was in 1992. Lots of votes have been given to non sikhs especially the illegal migrants. at the same time when sikhs in punjab are dnied to buy land in other parts of the country It is in the strategy of GOI to have a refrandum on khalistan 5-10 years later from today when they would be compeltly sure of the outcome.. thanks.

the most funny thing you wrote was ayodhaya getting attacked..It is so funny whenever hindu media mentions that..They make it feel like ayodhya city was attacked with tanks and mortar shelling as in a war. But in reality- a man rammed his jeep into the gate of a temple and fired some shots in the air. So in india hindu media takes it as ayodhaya was attacked ..WoW? so what did the indian newspapers wrote when darbar sahib was attacked.. later it was found out that guy was a pande a brahmin..lol.

Raju stop getting emotional about kashmir and smell your tea.. Emotions dont solve anything. You call human rights org as CIA agents then whom do you call human rights orgs? RAW, Third Agency, or Indian parliament?... That is a typical slave mentality of indians to smear others and to be used by the ones who are already smeared..For vast majority of indians just because it is GOI so it becomes word of God..lol Take a trip to kashmir and have you own independant analysis of what is going on there. Terrorism is on both sides Indian state and by Militants. kashmirs don't want to live with india, why hasn't india agreed to a refrandum in kashmir? Ultimate proof of brahministic hypocrisy.. Indian singing the puny slongans of kheer and Kashmir are not an indication of a rational mind but of a psychotic paraois that is enflaked by the hindu media.