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guruvah

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  1. When you are asked to PROVE based on Gurbani you call other as doing tutu mein mein. If you want to spread your DEVIANT views openly here on Sikhsangat, then expect to be refuted openly also. Having known your dodgy+peculiar theology for 12 years , I have no genuine interest to engage you on 'your suggested platforms'.
  2. when you cannot give straight answer,you tend to use the path of AMBIGUITY your dera and the 'mahapurkhs' you choose to keep unconditional devotion in, cannot and do not have the right to define Khalsa Rehit Maryada based on "mere opinions". Evidence from solid sources needs to be there, otherwise...call the opinion AS opinion. And dont preach deviancy on a public domain sangat like this site. For if you are wrong in misleading others, you WILL incur sins too. (having observed u for 12 years, its not that you care tho)
  3. genuinely confused, who have no understanding on Khalsa Rehit Maryada. how does one become a 'certified sehajdhari' ? Can you prove, the concept of a Sehajdhari as per Gurbani even? Khande ki Pahul is the only way one becomes a Sikh and adopts SGGS as SatGuru. Also, it is safe to say the decision taken by the panj in your 'alledged' story above are not inline with Gurmat and Khalsa Rehit Maryada. No matter what and how you try to justify it.
  4. prove that with evidence, otherwise a statement is just a statement
  5. The reason, why taking Khande Ke Pahul is vital is because we become Guru Wale by taking Amrit di Daat and keeping nitnem & rehit. 1. A person who has taken khande ki pahul, can only marry a person who has taken khande ki pahul. Otherwise, if the marriage proceeds and is consummated. The person who was amritdhari, very much becomes a patit. Needs to get pesh with spouse to get amrit again. Idea a simple, a Guru wala cannot marry a bey-rehti/nigura(sehajdhari or whatever).
  6. One day I came online, and saw an add by a radical left wing Jewish group here, advocating occupying Palestinians. Like come on .... :blink2: Not to mention the regular adds promoting KFC.... cant recall others, way too much dodgy adds tbh
  7. I went through the saroop. Its always fills the heart with happiness to see a puratan hand written saroop. Having said that, this saroop cannot be from 1714, perhaps written very very much later . The reasons: Because in the end some Gurbani(Salok Mehalla 3,Salok Mehalla 5, Salok Mehalla 9, Mundhavani) is missing. Even Salook Vara Te Va'deek Mehalla 1 is is partially written in the beginning. =/ and there is also loads of Kachi Bani(Ramkali RatanMala, Jitt Dar Lakh Muhamamdan, Hakikat Rah Mukaam Raje Shiv Nabh Ki) followed by Ragmala in the end.
  8. SGPC has done its level best to standardize the current bir with the aid of a few scholars in the past. But there is still a minor area of improvement needed. The issue you are referring mainly arises because in puratan time, birs were only hand written and those minor spelling errors occurred due to the errors of the writers of Gurbani. While writing a saroop and copies being made from such saroops etc. You will be amazed to see the number of hand written puratan saroops that have kachi banis like Ratan Mala, Jit Dar Lakh Muhammdan & others mixed up . All in all, all such puratan SGGS seen as Puran Jot of Satguroo, and the minor errors were mainly unintentionally 'human caused'. Also, this forum genuinely is not the ideal place for such research area. Because people have not learned to think beyond their "sampardaic sectarian bias".
  9. Panj Granthi Paath is the one mentioned by daas above, which is the 5 Banis. It can take 2-3 hours to do Panj Granthi paath depending on our paath recitation. The rest banis tend to be added in a Panj Granthi as complimentary. And are compulsory to read anyway during nitnem time. The rest Guru Sahib knows the best.
  10. Try to contacting Vismaad : http://www.vismaad.com/ they have also developed the various animation movies for the panth and are based in Mohali. They have delivered Gurmat based apps in the past.
  11. Punj Granthi consists of the following 5 Baanis: Siri Asa kee Vaar Siri Sukhmani Sahib Siri Bawan Akhri Siri Oankaar Sahib Siri Sidh Gosht The reason why Panj Granth also consist other Nitnem banis, because those banis are mandatory for us to read anyway as part of our daily nitnem. But the 5 banis above are what make Panj Granthi as PANJ(5) Granthi. The rest Guru Sahib knows the best
  12. Isnt it abt time gursikhs from ALL backgrounds united to raise this issue with Sri Akal Takht Sahib to forbid these 3HO antics? If Gursikhs advice them, they will ignore it. As they are very much disconnected from the mainstream Panth.
  13. I was going to respond to you but reading that line proved you dont have Tat Gurmat ideals as per Gurbanee. Any Gursikh who delves into Gurbanee knows well the stance of Sree Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj on such people.(atheist & agnostic). Hence, giving you the privilege of a response is a waste of time.
  14. You are trying to connect different scenarios and basically trying to assimilate to make a logic. Political correctness solves nothing also. What Guru Arjan Dev Sahib endured, what he was afflicted to him, Guru Sahib accepted it as will of Vaheguroo. The same Guru Arjan Dev Sahib maharaj also cursed Satta & Balwand with leprosy when they slandered his Guru, Guru Nanak Dev Maharaj. The rest is known in history... In 1978, when Singhs were attacked they also fought back in defense. Singhs were shasterdhari and tyar ber tyar! Slanderers of Satguroo are highly cursed in Gurbani even, I dont need to quote evidence is abundant in gurbani for those who read! Rehitnamah also clearly said, Gur Ki Ninda Sune Na Kaan... The Muslim revere their Prophet and took great offense at the mocking. I have seen the cartoons, and clearly the cartoonist attempted to demonize and ridicule Mohammed. Unconditional love & complete obedience for one spiritual master/Guru/Prophet is something unknown to the western world. Nor they comprehend it.... thats why atheism and agnosticism originates from west and is advocated by it...
  15. what are Sikhs going to do for others? when they cant do anything for themselves to begin with...
  16. Is this Hukamnama still around? if possible can you post the full one for the benefit of the sangat? Dhanvaad
  17. Why do the the LGBT's see the need to parachute into every religion these days & lobby and push for their lifestyle to be incorporated into core believes of various faiths ? Hundreds of people are dying in wars, hunger, & conflicts. And the western PRIORITY is this 'filthy craving' ? Get a life, seriously. A meaningful one that too... This is the usual itinerary for gay agenda 'movements': accept our homosexuality craving-->push for gay marriage & in religious institutions IF possible --> PUSH for rights to adopt children for homosexual couples (since they cant breed, they come up with artificial "innovative methods to reproduce" also) #GaysHandsOffSikhi
  18. give Sikhnet daswand money for what? So that they can promote gay marriages, 3HO cult, and more Yoga? Yoga, talking of which...haven't u made enough money from fooling people from your pseudo-Yoga-infused-Sikhi 'paid classes' #scammers #cult #antipanthic
  19. majority of these girls are from Bhangra loving, chicken& mutton loving, alchohol drinking, money worshipping modernist Punjabi families who failed to give their daughters gurmat and Sanskars(values) . When it ends up on forums, "Sikh" girls being groomed... Punjabis have totally failed at implanting love for Sikhi in their children....
  20. more like Admins sitting on a round table and doin soul searching....but if u insist on detergent, its a free world =D
  21. How low has this forum dropped......? obvious from this thread....toxic
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