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Before some of you wet yourself with excitement over getting a mention by the joker Nick Griffen of the BNP, cast your minds back to the 1970's when a Sikh was murdered in Southall by Skinheads, when Turban bashing was common, when Sikh properties used to be vandalised and Sikhs did not venture out at night. Perhaps ask your dads and uncles what how the NF (BNP) treated them and ask you mums how they were spat on by Skinheads. These skinheads have "matured" into what you now call the BNP 30 years on some of you unfortunate dipsticks don't realise that your turbans are just waiting to be knocked off by the BNP. Here's some youtube uploads regarding the 1970 Southall riots and the build up. It gives you an idea of what was going on at the time.

Yawn! Same old SAS/Ford Capri buk buk! If anything Ford Capri resembles more extreme islamic beliefs than he thinks he does (suspicision of women, superiority of own view, hatred of others etc.). Sometimes one can have so much hatred for the enemy only because they actually resemble the enemy!

Too Many "NINDAKS" Nowadays!

Very articulate. very well spoken person. Did well representing a Sikh voice on some documentaries.

Typical youth reaction. The public kutapa was not the way to win a vote of confidence from the local sangat. It was counter-productive and from what some of my relatives in MK think the gym breeds troublemakers who will kick-off in the Gurdwara.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203463/First-Sikh-soldiers-parade-guard-Queen-traditional-forage-cap.html First Sikh soldiers go on parade to guard the Queen… without traditional forage cap By Beth Hale Last updated at 12:59 PM on 31st July 2009 Comments (18) Add to My Stories They are not quite what the tourists might expect when they come looking for a snapshot of a Buckingham Palace guard. There's not a red coat or a bearskin in sight - but there are two immaculately wrapped turbans in fetching shades of blue. Because they are changing the guard at Buckingham Palace. On guard: Lance Corporal Sarvjit Singh (left) and Signaller Simranjit 'Sim' Singh arethe first Sikhs to guard the Queen And Signaller Simranjit Singh and Lance Corporal Sarvjit Singh are it - the first Sikh soldiers to guard the Queen. There has been a long tradition of Sikhs serving in or with the British Army, but not until now has a Sikh soldier been among those charged with the responsibility of guarding the queen at Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle. The honour of being the first Sikh to take up the prestigious role fell to Signaller Singh, 'Sim' to his colleagues, earlier this summer. The 27-year-old is serving with the 21 Signal Regiment, normally based in Colerne, Wiltshire, but is at the end of a summer 'tour' of London. Mounting guard duty is normally carried out by the Guards of Household Division in their distinctive scarlet tunics and bear skin caps, but when the Guards units are busy with operational duties other regiments step in. Which is how Signaller Singh found himself leaving his normal duties at the headquatrters' motor transport department looking after vehicles and radio equipment. Scrubbing up nicely: Lance Corporal Singh checks the uniform of Signaller Singh at Wellington Barracks As a Buckingham Palace guard he has had to adjust to the rigours of ceremonial parade, and, of course, standing motionless for up to two hours at a time while tourists do their very best to raise a smile. And because of his turban, in dark blue to coordinate with the forage caps of his fellow soldiers, Signaller Singh has become used to tourists. 'People do try to make me laugh,' said the soldier, who is married. 'They have made me smile a couple of times but not laugh. I'm there to do my job and I try to do my best.' Born in India he came to Britain as a teenager and worked as a clerk in the NHS before joining the Army in 2006. He has uncles serving in the Indian Army and a grandfather who served with the British Army in Burma. His family are incredibly proud, he said, of his latest role. And his proudest moment on duty? Probably when the Queen gave him a wave. Pride: The two soldiers check each their uniforms before standing to attention. They wear their turbans on duty, as part of their mandatory religious uniform 'That was a good day,' he said modestly. 'Things like that do matter to you as a soldier when you are doing your job protecting the Queen.' Lnc Cpl Singh, 28, shares the same sense of pride in his job. He was born in India in 1981, but came to England in 2000 when his father, a state general secretary in India was working with the High Commission, and joined the Army Air Corps four years later. Due to marry later this year the soldier still has another month of Royal duty. He said it was 'hard work' training for drill movements, and for the long periods standing stock still, but worth it. A medal marking the fact he has served in Afghanistan adorns his tunic. But Lnc Cpl Singh said that for his family, the greater emotional impact came when he told them he was guarding the Queen. 'I feel very, very proud to have this honour,' he said. As for being a soldier and a Sikh he said he was treated like everyone else, apart from the occasional occasion about his turban and whether it gets hot. Turbans, long hair and beards are considered a mandatory religious uniform for all Sikhs. Keeping uncut hair is required according to the Rehat Maryada, the Sikh instruction for living.

Wow. So many experts in running a TV channel, yet only one channel exists. With all this expertise we should have several TV channels running in no time. So so many self appointed experts on how the panth should be run, how gurdwaras should be run, how akal takht should be run, how sikh schools should be run, how langar should be cooked, how an akhand path should be done, how amrit should be given and how a sikh tv channel should be run. When it comes down to the crack most of these self appointed representatives of the panth can't achieve anything so start 'blowing things out of proportion' around them to feel important. They talk about "PURE SIKHI" yet fail to define it and claim that everything else in "IMPURE SIKHI". They talk about "TRANSPARENCY" yet conviently follow other groups who don't seem to need to show TRANSPARENCY. They talk about UNITY yet persistently create doubt and confusion in order DIVIDE the sangat in to their supporters and non-supporters. They use big BOLD fonts possibly assuming that it authenticates their viewpoint.

ਜਿਸੁ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਤਾਤਿ ਪਰਾਈ ਹੋਵੈ ਤਿਸ ਦਾ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਹੋਵੀ ਭਲਾ ॥ ਓਸ ਦੈ ਆਖਿਐ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਲਗੈ ਨਿਤ ਓਜਾੜੀ ਪੂਕਾਰੇ ਖਲਾ ॥ Jis anḏar ṯāṯ parā­ī hovai ṯis ḏā kaḏė na hovī bẖalā. Os ḏai ākẖi­ai ko­ī na lagai niṯ ojāṛī pūkārė kẖalā. One whose heart is filled with jealousy of others, never comes to any good. No one pays any attention to what he says; he is just a fool, crying out endlessly in the wilderness. (ang 308)

Jo Bhole So Nihaal.......Sat Sri Akaal. Nice thing to see this morning. Isn't one of the Singh's Giani Hazoora Singh's son?

I sense a holier than thou viewpoint here. Again it's only your personal judgement on whose struggling or slacking and whose maybe not What purpose are the out of context references to the genuine sakhi of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj slapping the Gursikh for his slack serve other than using it in justifing why someone else deserves a slap or why someone is more superior than someone else. Will all these people who think theres some untransparent conspiracy that the Sikh Channel are brainwashing the sangat into please come clean with their allegations. Is there something concrete or is this just the usual way of putting the next man down for doing something beneficial for the panth?

You talk about the Sikh Channel as if you are aware of an ulterior motive or some great conspiracy behind the keep it free campaign. Either that or you just want to put doubt in peoples minds so that they don't contribute. With all due respect you talk about transparency yet many of us support other groups who have no transparency and carry an element of internal risk and yet they are considered legit simply because they use the taksali or jatha label to hide behind. Where are fully published accounts, 3 year strategic plans, legal status and what not of the other groups you all fully back because your mates run it? Transparency and Sikh institutes don't go together and very rarely do. Write to any jathebhandi asking them for information regarding their trustees, funds, plans, legal position and watch either no response or some out of date generic reply. Context? Why not look at the tangible as well as intangible benefits and let the sangat assess that before implementing doubt in their minds. Look at what has and what can the Sikh Channel achieve regardless of it not being run by any of your chums. If this Sikh Channel carrys some dangerous conspiracy that will destroy the panth then why has no one else felt strong enough to set a Channel up themselves which ticks all these panthic boxes? Again, it's simple nit-picking which stalls any progression for our community.

Thank you for commenting using my name Internet warriors? Thank you again. Please tell me how many times you have been standing on the front line when Maharaj has been disrespected. Please tell me how many times you have been there to stop the beadbi taking place. Please tell me when you have confronted the sikhs who claim to be amritdhari and are busy eyeing up boys and girls in the sangat. Please tell me how many times you have been questioned by the police for doing this seva? Are you living in the dream world where by only those who happen to identify something and say it on the forums are internet warriors? Not realising that many of those Internet Warriors are actually Khalsa warriors and would not walk away on the battlefield but run towards it when people like you are busy hiding away. The biggest problem is not the bibiya dont put themselves forward and the problem is that those who do put themselves forward really dont do a good job - disrespect of the roop of the khalsa is not something that would have been taken lightly in the olden days. Please not the fact the makeup issue has gone astray. Would i be correct in thinking all of you that have replied only to the issue of dastar colours believe it is ok to wear makeup? Please again READ THE POST - i DID contact the Sikh Channel and did not get any response. I know they read this forum hence they READ it here. Asking is a one in a while request, not a continuous post to say "Set up your direct debit at www.sikhchannel.tv" - This is begging for money. To have different people throughout the day read out the names of those who have set up direct debits and continuously request people set up direct debit is begging. I really cannot understand how so many sangat members are really brainwashed in to believing this is ok. Correct me if i am wrong yet again, but do we all not get annoyed when the stage secretary says "Building Fund" at a wedding when we all know they ask every time. Yes we do. Why? Because we see no change and we are bored of hearing it. Remeber, Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Not manmukh behaviour. Some of you really need to pick up a Gutkha Sahib, read some paath, go to the Gurdwara and do some real seva. Forgive me Bhenji. For a moment I thought I was more superior than others around me. I now realise I am just a manmukh who should really be standing on every frontline and putting my neck on the line for Sikhi and not sit at home and criticise others for doing sewa. I suppose I'll see you on that battlefield then! I take it you won't be the bibi in the turquoise dastaar.

True, £160 can be used for better purposes but that argument can be used to apply to amounts of money in almost all contexts. The kirpan is made from good quality metal which is stronger than kirpans from India, therefore it's less likely to corrode or break. The amount might seem steep but is good value for money given the materials used and the design/make of this kirpan. Personally speaking, it's an ideal investment on a shaster you will wear 24/7. I disagree. My grandfather wore the same kirpan he was given when he took amrit in Nanded from Baba Nidhaan Singh's jatha in 1933 and wore it until 2008 when he then passed it on to my brother. It's still in mint condition and of great workmenship and extremly well kept. The kirpan cost him nothing as it was given by Baba Nidhaan Singh's jatha who made them and gave them for free to Gursikhs .

Why can't you Khalsa Lioness's get off your backsides and actually do something for the panth instead of sitting on your PCs and moaning about other people's wardrobes. So everyones not got your perfect jeevan in your perfect jatha bubble. The biggest problem we got is our bibya won't come and put themselves forward and the ones who eventually do apparently don't know how do dress and wear the dreaded make up. So it's catch 22. I hope that you do not own or wear any non-blue/white/kesri/black clothes whatsoever, especially if you are willing to point ongleea at others who do. And asking for support from the sangat. when did that become such an issue. It's not begging, it's asking for support.

£160 is a lot to pay for a kirpan. £160 can help run a gareebs household in India for 6 months. £160 can support a years education for a child in India We can get excellent hand made Kirpans from our sources in Punjab for so so much less.

There's a big big difference between a camp, where the primary objective is to promote the message of the Guru and build peoples Sikhi, and a wedding which is being carried out in one-off venue to promote a couples big day. If the family organisers feel that they can justify hiring out a big venue for their big day, I wonder if they'd spend that same money on a camp for hundreds of children in the same venue. Curiously, will they whisk away the saroop of Guru Granth Sahib Ji once the party starts or will Guru Ji be staying for the party bit too? Or is there an element of guilt with having a party afterwards such that the venue is no longer fit for Guru Granth Sahib Ji's saroop once the party commences?

Ford Capri. It's apparent from your general postings that your a BNP sympathiser and a person paranoid of women and muslims. I don't know what utopian "multi-cultural" country you dream off, but you're the people who create the divisions which organisations like MPSA try to work around.

The clash is actually a non-issue. One can attend both diwans as one finishes at 9pm and the other is a rehansabhai.

A video clip from Parkaash 2009 on you tube. Babaji & the jatha look more and more inspirational everytime I seem them.

Thank you very much for directing us to these videos. It's the duty of an influential Sikh group or jathay to provide support to United Sikhs who in turn have taken on a mahan sewa, which very few are willing to do. As individuals what's the best way of sending donations? Is it via the link http://unitedsikhs.org/donate.php?PHPSESSI...b3931d111b42210 I think these videos need to be shown in the Gurdwara diwans in order to show our 'sheltered' Western Sikh community that daswand can go a lot further then your local Gurdwara extra large wedding hall building extension fund.

In the end people are going to do what they are going to do. You can have all the advise in the world, but if you're already convinced that you're right then there's no point. Be it on the head of the people who feel that the JAGAT GURU is a simple commodity which can be used for their own convenience. Those who have no relationship with their Guru will never see what's wrong in doing these acts. As a recent prominant Mahapursh's said, the people who are involved in abusing the respect of the saroops of Guru Granth Sahib Ji will realise their actions in their next 7 lives. Leave it at that. Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj.

Satnaam Sri Waheguru! I think the poster just put pictures he thinks relate to the dhun of Gurmantar. Read the comments. Anyhow like satpunga singh said even the devi devte come back in to manukh jeevan so that they can be given Gurmantar. Aren't we lucky Gursikho!!

Thanks for this link. Any updates from Khalsa Aid since 2nd June 09?

The word 'promise' sends shivers down a Sikh spine. LOL broken 'Promises' are part of our history. Places like Pakistan and Hindoostan are volatile places where communal violence erupts for any reason. We've witnessed first hand partition and delhi riots. Those Sikhs in Pakistans can be washed out any time by the Taliban or Pakistan govt. The politcal structure of Pakistan can change tommorrow and those pleasent relationships your Dal Khalsa UK think they have with the Pak govt could be nothing tommorrow. Sitting back and assuring people all is well is pretty foolish because all we'll do is let the 'storm pass' and then complain we didn't do anything.

Lack of focus. Lack of interest. Lack of appreciation. Lack of understanding. I forgot too..