Southall Youth

The post above also states Khalistan was not made during Guru Gobind Singh Jis time ,10th Guru ordered Banda Singh Bahadur to establish Sikh rule and gave him 5arrows to do so 5 yemrs after the Sahibzadeh Sikh rule was established which we are celebrating 300 yrs of this year2010 don't be diverted by such statements which divert us from our goal which is to free Panjab and create a homeland for Sikhs raaj bina neh dharam chale hai dharam bina sab dalay malay hai

This is a typical ploy to divert us from wanting independence I've seen many people who say Khalistan is in the heart Khalistan will or should be the world and what not FACT is that Shaheeds spilt thier blood for Khalistan Shaheed Sat Bhindranwale declared it on June 5th 1986 it was declared from Sri Akal Takht Sahib The Sikh Nation needs a homeland and we will make one in the form of independent Panjab Khalistan

More like pure BS defined not Sikhi

Southall Sikhs cant even elect a Sikh MP and voted Sharma who supported bluestar and who openly campaigned by bringing up 84 and claiming the Sikh Candidate was Khalistani. I don't know of any Sikh Shop but theres a suit shop I believe next to Mehfil which sell Sikh items and new fashion house opposite Sikh Missonary they do all Sikh related articles as well

A true Sikh wont protest at the blacklist did Guru Gobind Singh Ji or Banda Singh Ji Bahadur protest to the Mougals /???? So why do we have certain leaders of so called Khalistani Groups across the World including UK having discussion on this blacklist on Sikh Chnl - you know who you are.Would a Jew ask a Nazi to be allowed in to Nazi Germany?? Pathetic the more a blacklist the better ,it will show Indias true colours they have a demand give up Khalistan you will be removed those who want to spit on the Shaheeds sacrifice go ahead maro jaake India'ch 3rd world nation run by Hindutva fanatics

My form of justice is ,what Banda Singh Bahadur did to Sirhand,and a Sovreign Sikh Khalistan along with HUNTING down every Brahmanical Hindutva tyrant like the Jews hunted and still hunt Nazis across the Globe.Any Sikh who does not support Khalistan as per 1986 Sarbat Khalsa is not a Sikh according to me a true Sikh is he who talks about Khalsa Raaaj and not being loyal to an enemy who burned Mahraj on the streets of Delhi raped our Sisters and Mothers and bombed Sri Harmandar Sahib there can be no compromise Khalistan is a must India will burn and fall apart like the Soviet Union did overnight Guru Kirpa this happens very very soon and is on the horizon .

Enough is enough this Sikh should not set fire to himself we are sons and daughters of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji did Guru Sahib ever ask for justice from the Dushman??? We know fully well Hindu India will never be a true democracy and give us justice,we need to stop begging the govt and crying on and on every year - we need to change the record the next step if full out independence of the Sikh Nation nothing less - bouth hogya 26 saal batherah mangtheya vangu appa roulya - Khalsa Baagi Ya Baadshah - Lets unite under the Kesri Nishan

What a load of lies our River water actually goes to Pakistan not Pakistans water comming our way just look at the map,Indias trying to hide the fact that they're releasing urainium in to Panjabs water and as usual blames Pakistan

Every Gurdwara in the UK including the big Gurdwaras need at least 2 Perehdaars and CCTV installed,at any given time there should be 2 perehdaars 24 hrs a day.If the Queen and her Palace can have guards 24 hrs a day 7 days a week why cant we have perhedaars at all Guru Ghars,theres enough people out there who can do this taking 2 people out of langar seva or other seva wont cause that much disruption.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/Summons-issued-against-Babbu-Mann/articleshow/6065925.cms Click link

I take it you don't know of what arya samaj was and is I don't need a newspaper to verify my claims I have my own sources,and why are you commenting anyway?you don't even like Babbu Mann ain't you supposed to be accusing people of being anti Dasam Granth or Prof Darshan ,that's all you do anyway GPS I think your navigation needs updating mate

Warrant issued from Mohali Panjab DHUDIKE (MOGA): After exposing so-called religious Babas for their lavish lifestyle, popular Punjabi singer-actor Babbu Mann has strummed a controversy by putting a question mark over the martyrdom of legendary freedom fighter Lal Lajpat Rai, better known as "Punjab kesri". A song by Mann during a recent concert in UK about Rai not dying due to cane blows rained on him while opposing the Simon Commission, but due to a heart attack, has stirred a storm back home. Furious over this, activists of a youth club at Rai's birth place has demanded stern action against the singer. "Apart from being an insult to the freedom fighter's martyrdom, it has put a big question mark over the whole freedom movement and sacrifices of all freedom fighters," said Lala Lajpat Rai youth and welfare club president Jasdeep Singh. The Lala Lajpat Rai committee, residents of his village and other club members have demanded that the singer should be booked for anti-national activities. Though Mann was not available for comments as he's still abroad, his close associates Tarlochan Singh and Harjit Nagra maintained that had never meant to denigrate any patriot's sacrifice, and rather eulogized the freedom fighters through his songs. "Mann has not scripted the lines, but has picked up a reference from "Sachi Sakhi", a book by Kapoor Singh (ICS). There is mention of Rai on pages 63-64 in the book's 1993 edition published by SGPC and a foreword by late Gurcharan Singh Tohra. If anybody's feelings have been hurt, he is sorry," they added. Acting on a complaint by the villagers, Moga SSP Sanehdeep Sharma said he had asked SP (H) Jagmohan Singh to look into the matter, and take appropriate action after getting legal opinion. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/Babbus-Lajpat-song-strums-anger/articleshow/6052502.cms <a href="http://netspiderads2.indiatimes.com/ads.dll/clickthrough?slotid=36458" target="_blank"><img src="http://netspiderads2.indiatimes.com/ads.dll/photoserv?slotid=36458" border="0" width="660" height="95" alt="Advertisement"></a>

ALL SHOULD ATTEND ESPECIALLY LONDON SIKHS

Dal Khalsa earlier supported Babbu Mann on this issue http://dalkhalsa.blogspot.com/2010/06/babbu-mann-exposes-lala-lajpat-rai-anti.html

The Fanatical Panjab Police backed by Hindutva have issued a warrant for the arrest of Babbu Mann for his exposure of the anti Sikh Arya Samaji Lala Lajpat Rai in which he exposed this deeply anti Sikh Lala for what he really was Dal Khalsa alongside other Panthic organisations fully support Babbu Mann and reinforce the fact that Lala Lajpat Rai was infact a deeply Anti Sikh man,no Sikh should ever call this fool who died of a heart attack a Shaheed. We ask all to support Babbu Mann and spread this message that he gave to audiences at his Wembley Concert in the UK

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Text Of The Memorandum delivered during the Sikh Freedom & Remembrance Rally Sunday 13th June 2010 below: Bhai Amrik Singh Sahota,Bhai Gurmej Singh Gill,Bhai Amrik Singh Gill,Bhai Manmohan Singh Khalsa,Councillor Gurdial Singh Atwal,Bhai Balbir Singh Walking Towards No.10 Downing Street Residence of PM David Cameron Representatives Of The Federation Of Sikh Organisations Deliver A Memorandam Regarding Sikh Freedom & 1984,To 10 Downing St. London During The Sikh Freedom & Remembrance Rally On Sunday 13th June 2010 KHALISTAN ZINDABAD NEVER FORGET 1984 Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Shubh Karman Te Kabhun Na Tarun Federation Of Sikh Organisations, UK 106, East Park Road, Leicester LE5 4QB ____________________________________________________________________ The Rt. Hon, David Cameron, Prime Minister, 10 Downing Street, London. 13 June 2010 Dear Prime Minister, Britain, India and the Sikh Nation: “Special Relationship” or “Indebtedness”? It was your illustrious predecessor Winston Churchill who spoke of Britain’s relationship with the Sikhs in the following terms: “British people are highly indebted and obliged to Sikhs for a long time. I know that within this century we needed their help twice and they did help us very well. As a result of their timely help, we are today able to live with honour, dignity, and independence”. Sikhs have, for several years, called for British assistance in the Sikh Nation’s hour of need – when our own honour, dignity and independence are at stake. The Indo-Sikh conflict of recent decades has seen the Sikhs suffer genocide and the denial of freedom by force; the conflict remains unresolved and many of those guilty of inhuman crimes against the Sikhs remain unpunished, holding high profile positions of power in India. Today, marking the 26th anniversary of the notorious Indian army attack on the Golden Temple in Amritsar in June 1984, the UK’s Sikhs have once again gathered in London in their thousands to renew that call for British (and wider international) intervention. We hope that, in line with Churchill’s analysis, your Government takes up the grave issues we raise and discharges the debt of history. The coalition Government has already set itself a declared objective to establish a “new special relationship” with India, but it appears that such a policy risks ignoring the massive injustices and human rights abuses that the Indian state has heaped on the Sikhs since that bloody episode in 1984. We attach to this Memorandum the document we delivered to Prime Minister Gordon Brown on 7th June last year which sets out the level and nature of the oppression, the underlying causes of the conflict in Punjab and how we believe it should be peaceably resolved in accordance with international law. It includes specific recommendations for UK Government foreign policy, including effective action against genocide perpetrators and for helping the Sikhs exercise their right of self-determination in the Sikh homeland. Perhaps as a result of wider political drift the previous administration did not respond effectively to our calls for action. Your Government has the opportunity to look afresh at these concerns and we respectfully urge that this is done at the earliest opportunity. We would ask for a meeting with the relevant minister at the Foreign Office to discuss this area of policy, which is of great concern to Britain’s 700,000 strong Sikh community. Both constituent parties of the coalition promised a new politics where Government engages with the people; UK Sikhs see this as a timely change of approach as, unfortunately, Foreign Office officials have over recent months declined to engage with us when we have raised important and urgent issues. These include provocative visits to the UK by those widely alleged to have directed the anti-Sikh pogroms in Delhi in November 1984, in which some 20,000 Sikhs were brutally killed in three days of state sponsored genocide. Ahead of such a meeting we would however ask that you at the outset consider some key areas where your Government can make an immediate impact. The coalition programme continues the previous Government’s stand in support of India’s inclusion in the UN Security Council as a permanent member. In the light of India’s appalling record on human rights; its refusal to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty whilst creating a nuclear arms race in South Asia; its formal rejection (in defiance of an official UN reprimand) of the applicability of self-determination to the peoples living within territory it controls, we are bound to point out that this is, in our view, a serious mistake. Until India complies with basic international standards and accepts the rule of international law, it seems bizarre to reward it with such a prize and indeed to allow it the very means to ‘veto’ any future international action aimed at bringing it in to line. Churchill’s political acumen seems to be sorely missing; it s inconceivable that he would advocate such terms for a belligerent aggressor which threatens its own people as well as international peace and security. The US Commission on International Religious freedom recently put India on its ‘watch list’ of states where religious minorities suffer mass violence and where the state is either a mute spectator or actively involved. Christians, Muslims and Sikhs have been subjected to mob violence, directed by politicians of both the major Congress and BJP parties, and yet there is never any redress. The mass killings of Sikhs in November 1984 in Delhi are a classic example and no objective commentator can, after 26 years of failure in the Indian judicial system, can realistically hope that justice will be delivered by the Indian courts. It is time that the perpetrators be tried in international courts and we would suggest that the UK formally raise this ahead of the Commonwealth Games scheduled to be held in Delhi in October of this year, at which Sikhs will be protesting in large numbers. If the Indians refuse international intervention we believe Britain should call for a boycott of the Games. In addition, Britain should either deny entry to the UK of those accused of genocide or, if they arrive, take unilateral action to prosecute them. It is revealing that Canada has recently denied Visas to Indian security personnel on the grounds that they were involved in the massive abuses in Punjab. The Canadian embassy in Delhi wrote to one of the persons concerned stating that “As per open source research, the BSF is a violent paramilitary unit stationed in the areas that the government of India considers to be sensitive. The BSF has engaged in systematic attacks on civilians ... You have admitted to being aware that the BSF was responsible for committing crimes against humanity but gave no indication that you disassociated yourself from them and remained with the organization for 25 years ...” Given this robust approach by the Canadians, Britain’s Sikhs wonder why people like Sajjan Kumar and Kamal Nath (both identified in official enquiries and witness testimony as being involved in the Delhi pogroms) are allowed entry in to the UK. We have a formal response from the Foreign Office, dated 17 May 2010, which states that as far as the UK Government is concerned, they can come and go as they please. This is, we submit, an untenable position and needs to be reconsidered. The British Government’s international aid budget is to remain unchanged, despite the economic downturn, and the sentiment behind that is commendable. We do however believe that there is a case for re-allocating the hundreds of millions of pounds given every year to India, which is by far the biggest recipient of UK taxpayer’s money in comparison to other donee countries. As UK tax payers, British Sikhs object to funding a country which has a massive (and increasing) defence budget, which is being used to arm repressive internal security forces as well as to build a nuclear arsenal – both of which threaten Sikh populations and territory in Punjab. It is appropriate at this time to send a signal to India that aid must be contingent on compliance with human rights and we call on the British to stop that aid until, for example, India releases all Sikh political prisoners. The police have in recent months rounded up several Sikh leaders in Punjab and falsely implicated them on terrorism charges, whereas it is clear to all that there is no basis to those charges. Ultimately, the solution to the conflict in Punjab will lie in the exercise of self-determination by the Sikhs, in accordance with international law, by which means the Sikhs will be able to protect themselves, their natural resources and their “honour, dignity and independence”. We see that outcome, together with a resolution of the Kashmir conflict, as a real answer to the instability in the region where UK forces are already committed on an increasingly unpopular mission. We are committed to peaceably establishing an independent sovereign state of Khalistan in the Sikh homeland and hope that, over time, UK foreign policy can align itself, not only with with Churchill’s thinking about the Anglo-Sikh relationship, but also with the coalition’s espousal of “freedom, fairness and responsibility”. We wish your Government every success and look forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, Gurmej Singh Gill Balbir Singh Amrik Singh Sahota, OBE Amrik Singh Gill Councillor Gurdial Singh Atwal Manmohan Singh Khalsa (the representatives of the UK Sikh groups comprising the Federation of Sikh Organisations, UK) COORDINATORS: Kuldip Singh and Joga Singh

We need more organisation like on the 25th anniversary, the time at Trafalgar should be until 6pm the latest at the moment its too short and not everyone gets to speak ,the videos also have to CHANGE we can't use old videos we need to make our own with our own voice overs,flag of Khalistan should be raised this will send shockwaves around the World if the Khalistan flag is raised in the centre of London. The black flags should be kept at the front last year with an army of Nishan Sahibs behind and banners,posters and so on, the bit at Hyde Park should be where everyone is given the banners posters and so on like last year. We need an official FSO Video of each rally from now on for media purposes ,Sikh Chnl will show the rally on TV without a doubt BUT they will almost certainly edit it and make it 'politically correct' - well politically correct does not work in the Panth - only the truth does,thus we need an FSO video team filming the entire event *Khalistan Flag should be raised. *Organisation - with black flags at front - Army of Nishan Sahibs follows *We have to stop using the old history channel videos and make our own with voice overs - even if the footage is old,more speakers from Europe should be called as well as Panjab,and UK Born Sikhs - along with calling that trade union guy who came a few years ago from Bristol he was good. *Mayor should be called along with high profile politicians *Continue with floral tribute *Extend Trafalgar Sq time till latest - 6pm - don't matter if we get late this is only once a year lets make the most of it. *Langar and water in Sq before hand under a tent - most ppl usually wonder off for food. *Reaffirm the declaration of Khalistan 1986 - Independence from UK Sangat *More UK born Sikhs Boys and Girls at the forefront, Moneh and Amritdhari Give out 10 times as much Khalistan flags next year

Message to Bamani Sarkar Of Hindustan from rally

Yeah right why would the 6th Guru get his head shaved!Its good that stupid so called source is lost load of lies,a follower of Guru Gobind Singh would never wear a jinu

I swear he was at the rally today

I'd never respect Santa he never backed sant ji,sant ji says in his video, Santa also said he'd get sant ji out of harmandar sahib in 3hrs then he sided with indira he has gne down in history as a gaddar and will always be one

Why didn't Guru show us Sarbloh Granth then ok not 100 yrs ago but before that I know for sure we have no historical evidence after 1699 or 1708 it may have cropped up during Ranjit Singhs time ,i heard that Santa translated it.Im not writing it off as nonsense it may have some writings of the Guru or Poets but it is most likely that it is not written by the Guru,and this is kind of different from Dasam Granth in the sense it does not have banis which make up Amrit Sanchaar and no ones ansewerd the Tilak issue ,surely Guru Gobind Singh Ji never would ask for that,and oh yeah not Dasam Guru Granth Sahib,but Dasam Granth - only Guru Granth Sahib has the title Guru and LOL at Baba Deep Singh Ji doing a Havan as IF!