Cisco_Singh

High membership fees. Of course, how else will the Gurdwara management committee be able to purchase their S Class Mercedes's and fund the extensions of their properties ? If they cannot raise this money from membership fees, they will have to consider building party halls and carrying out sham inter faith anand karaj ceremonies...

Agreed, the length of time the "hunger strikes" are alleged to have gone on for are physically impossible. Secondly a video went viral of Surat Singh eating various different foods and even asking if the food was home cooked. This is far from "force feeding", of course the explanation given was trust he was injected with a cocktail of drugs by the authorities that makes him forget his mission and makes him start eating food.... Of course the authorities will not take you seriously, hunger strikes do not work, Gurbaksh Singh x2, Surat Singh, what's the results so far ???

Does anyone know what had happened with Surat Singh Khalsa morcha and hunger strike to free Singh's that have completed their jail terms ? I haven't heard anything on Sikh media for a while on this issue it seems to have gone silent. Has the morcha ended ?

You can't trust these people who phone up to nihals shows are actually genuine. they could just be radical Muslims playing the usual deception "al taqqiyah" card to try and persuade the "kufars" to join Islam..

Looll... Howcome there's never any accountability by the girls that end up in these situations for their own actions ??? There's enough education out there and there have been several cases of grooming reported all over news for at least the last 3 years. Ignorance is no excuse in this day and age. Dopey skets, cry "grooming" when they caught out...

The punjabis "Sikhs" that live in Smethwick are a strange bunch, generally not very intelligent backwards kind of people. They're parents were the same foundry/factory workers. A lot of the guys are alcoholics and druggies. Not the finest examples of UK Sikhs..

There is a lot of truth in this, from a warrior kaum that held shastar and knowledge of their usage in high esteem , we have turned the very shastar into symbolic heirlooms. Blunt kirpans that are strictly forbidden to ever be removed from their sheaths.. Even worse kirpans substituted for wearing a blunt metal kirpan cutout on a black thread around ones neck as a substitute... The 10th Master worshipped weapons as his peers, there is no greater respect of shastar then learning how to utilise them and understand the science if their usage. This is true shastar pooja. A bunch of fat overweight individuals with blunt kirpans only useful for spreading butter on toast is not the Khalsa Fauj the 10th master created.

They already do this, lions mma is one example. Why kash gill ? Just because he's Indian ? Sikhs should try and learn from the best teachers available. This is why Maharajah Ranjit Singh hired European generals and had various ethnic races in his army . he didn't exclusively use Sikhs.

Not all of his students are apnay though, So they don't care about the politics aspect of "Rasta basta". It's pretty much the same as any martial class I.e: they don't train you for free you pay per lesson. Rasta basta means you only pay what you can afford, if your broke you don't pay. As long as the costs of the running the classes is covered it doesn't matter how much each individual donates..I.e: it's not a set fee. It's no different from the ignorant apnay who eat halal meat when part of the profits of such shops may indirectly fund terrorism..

Both, the recipe is believed to have come directly from Guru Gobind Singh Ji himself in Nihang folklore. Also known as sukhnidaan or Sukha... Medicinal purposes include killing pain from injuries. These were times when there weren't such things as pain killers. Look at rastafarah and some Hindu sadhus they still use cannabis to aid meditation.

The earlier you can instill martial discipline and skill the better. In puratan times as soon a woman was pregnant they would ask the mother to read chandi di vaar and other marital texts and ballads during pregnancy as they believed this would instill a martial mind set into the child developing in the womb.Children were introduced to weapons and training at a very young age. In the autobiography of nawab kapur Singh, he recalls a game where as a child they would make two teams and try to take the other team prisoner, they would use live blades ! Nawab kapur Singh was injured as a child in such a game where he was cut with a khanda, it was thought he would not recover. He later went on become a great leader. This was the importance given to a martial life style.

Agreed.. This mentality is still rife amongst Sikhs. They fail to understand the sant/sipahi, miri piri balance after equally add important.There is complete neglect of physical fitness and martial training from the life style of most modern day Sikhs. The kirpan has been demoted from a shastar to a symbolic piece of clothing. Some people think it's ok to just wear a little kirpan on a necklace instead. 'There was talk of such a science of archery and stick fighting only a few years ago in the Punjab that listening of it the English-educated young men will consider it astonishing. In sincerity I believe present day young men might just consider these skills and Shastar Vidiya most likely impossible, because they have not even seen those bows nevermind stringing them. Like this, many sciences and skills after attaining their heights have declined. Before 1857 many quivers full of arrows, matchlocks, flintlock guns, swords, lances, spears, Sang, Katar, Pesh Kabz, pistols, shields etc., weapons, armour and many types of chainmail was found house to house, and all the people in their homes learned and taught Shastar Vidiya and became complete soldiers. Now no one even speaks of these skills the sons of brave warriors are becoming engrossed in making money, even to us who have employed Shastar Vidiya, it is becoming a dream. In another fifty years or so, this Vidiya would have dried up and people will say it (past skills) were but, all lies' ('Twarikh Guru Khalsa', Giani Gian Singh Nirmala (1899) Vol.1, Pa. 36-37)

This is the main problem, governments should have no oversight over Sikh religious institutions. This is how Badal controls who is elected into SGPC , I.e: ensures they are his puppets. Likewise Badal himself is a puppet of the Delhi abscission administration. At the time the Gurdwaras act was created the British controlled SGPC, when they left the Nehru/Gandhi brahministic stooges took control. This along with the election system ingredients introduced by SGPC ultimately handed Sikh religious institutions into the hands of the governments...

The bum types are more unpredictable, you never know what they'll do.. I e: pick up bottles, glasses, bricks etc.. Not to mention that might be carrying knives and other weapons. They will also kick, bite, headbutt, eye gouge etc etc.. Anything goes. Therefore asking someone to try and punch you like the guy in the video while but allowing them to use kicks , knees, groin strikes etc is a highly unrealistic scenario. You can see in the video he complained when the guy stepped on his foot. That's a classic martial artist trick, trap the foot so your opponents movement is restricted allowing you take up a tactical position to launch your strike from.

So the random people trying to hit that guy were only allowed to throw punches.. Would have been a completely different story if knees, leg kicks , groin strikes were allowed. Also picking random unskilked bums off the street is one thing, try this against skilled person and see what happens.

You can still learn combat arts regardless of if you have a beard and kesh. Boxing is great for striking but does not allow usage of the majority of effective strikes because it is a sport orientated art not a combat art. I'm talking about elbow strikes, eye gouging, groin strikes, back of the head strikes, kidney punches, small joint manipulation I.e: finger breaks, strangulation, joint breaks. Etc etc. Techniques using the above are the base and core concepts of true combat arts. There's no point training for sport, if you ever get attacked in the street you attacker will not be following any rules... More than likely there will more than one attacker, most sport arts simply do not cater for how to defend against multiple attackers. I've said it many times find an art form and teacher that will teach you street effective combat forms with drills for real life situations. One prime example is the Sikh dentist attacked in mould Wales, by a white supremacist nazi supporter in a supermarket he was attacked with a large blade and a hammer, this is reality, this is up what you can find yourself up against in the streets. Boxing alone or even mma will not help you , you need to learn effective use of weaponary and defence against attackers carrying weapons .

When Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj stood up on Vaisakhi 1699 and asked for a sacrifice... How many soormay, super brave jatts were among the blessed five that stepped forward... Oh that's right not a single representative from the super duper brave hardcore jatt clans... Were they too sharabee to attend ?....

Therein lies the issue, the physical fitness and sipahi lifestyle is all but lost amongst Sikhs today. Even amritdharees, Akal purakh di fauj the majority of these guys are overweight, physically unfit , have zero martial knowledge and carry blunt kirpans. A big overhaul is needed. That's why you see a few fat Punjab police officers easily beat the crap out of 100 punjabis with just lathis.

Yup, your right. You can separate the theology and other stuff from the art form. By learning kung fu from a buddhist monk you won't become Buddhist. Take what you need from whoever is the best at teaching it. You do need to be weak minded and gullible to be brainwashed. Maybe the very young and other certain groups maybe vulnerable but your average half clued up person has nothing to fear.

Gatka is not a martial art suggesting as such is a decredit to the skills of our ancestors. Why do you think the martial arts world laughs at Gatka. Have you ever seen any respected martial artist recognise and acknowledge Gatka ? Nope, why not ? Because it's a joke of an art. Incorrect length weapons, wrong weights of weapons, completely wrong usage of weapons If you've ever held puratan shastar you will quickly realise they cannot be swung around like and utilised like gatkabaaj demonstrate , they're simply too heavy. Add chainmail which purattan Singh's wore and see how able you able to jump around like a circus clown... Not to add the lsuch strikes which are completely out of combat range.. Only clowns with no martial knowledge are impressed by Gatka clowns. Go and learn silat, eskrima, panantukan, systema, krabi krabong, jkd, Kali etc if I want to learn effective arts..

You could always directly contact the web master of the shastar Vidiya sheds sites, Nihang Teja Singh and ask him to confirm the authenticity and content of the letter. It could well be a doctored, edited version . If the RSS portion is legit, then it looks like Nidar Singh has clearly lost the plot, using a Hindu right wing fascist racist organisation to help you such as the RSS which has openly stated that it seeks to turn India into a solely Hindu state is insane... I still however maintain, that Gatka is a complete utter waste of time, and cannot be classified as a combat art. It is a dance act for performing circus clowns.. There are plenty of better arts to learn..

It's not a rumour its a fact the videos of Dhadrianwale are still widely available on youtube where he is sitting on a raised stage wearing a kalgi on his dastaar allowing a queue of people to matha tekh to him and giving him gifts while he talks on a mobile phone , many of these people are buzurag old people.

Parole is just a government scam, they tried this last time when gurbaksh singh was on his hunger strike. They gave leave to Singh's who had already completed their sentences and promised the paper work for their full release would be completed while they were on leave so they would not return to jail... Guess what, they all went back to jail and are still not released, it was all tactics to distract people...

Hunger strikes are a waste of time, they don't work. Khalsa are tyar bar tyar, akal purakh di fauj, they dont go on hunger strikes and beg governments to help them. How many times have we seen this now ? with Bhai Gurbaksh Singh twice. Now Bapu Surat Singh. What results have been achieved ? How many prisoners have been released ?

Yup, sarbat Khalsa leaders in jail, the sell outswho didn't back sarbat Khalsa are doing nothing either , apparently they are under "house arrest" to make their sell out look more believable.