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I am assuming its same ramanand ji, Sri dasam granth sahib ji take on ramanand ji should be taken from Absolute reality not from relative reality as it means to be uphold absolute reality (One non dual reality-Ikongkar reality) over relative realities.. Relative realities or sargun realities in form of avtars, bhagats are heavily downplayed in sri dasam granth sahib, significance of these relative realities or pointers is totally been destroyed to uphold Absolute Truth where there are no distinctions- It's only - ONE NON DUAL TRUTH- IKONGKAR- ONE IN ALL, ALL IN ONE. This is also done to raise the surti of seekers from form (Sargun) to Formless(Nirgun) One of scholars of facebook puts this way to properly reconcile stance so there is no confusion:

Interfaith itself is now becoming bunch of farce. They all come speak good things about their faith- its so typical, get excited on dry ideology of their faith devoid of any experience totally ignoring problems in their own community, ignoring hypocrisy of followers in their respective faith. Then you have those neo atheist right wing which is more even extreme in their ideology. One of the reason Guru Nanak dev nirankar came in this earth to point out religious hypocrisy and to encourage people to transcendent from pre-conceived notions, raise people bar, and remember one humanity. In lot of ways, we express that live in experience in form of langar- treating everyone equally. I think interfaith should be more about action/walking the talk then just pure rhetoric/typically drawing pretty picture of their dharam -dry conceptual ideology ...most western people/egalitarian people are tired of hearing same old typical speech, time to proof it. If followers of respective faith, cannot walk the talk then its just illusion. All interfaith communities should first talk about essence of their religion then talk about how they (community) can improve following those teaching, revise after 6 months and list out how they are improved embodied those teaching, live it through because its automatically presented by delusion interfaith people that community is already following essence of their religion which is not true at all. Interfaith now days has become scoring soccer points, competition, pure farce. All religion-essence teaching is about practical living, if person cannot embodied truth(sat) of dharam then they have no right to represent dharam, give pretty speeches.

I think in Sikh traditions we call maha samadhi bedah mukhti.

We need to find out how australian sikhs have presented kirpan, if its presented as weapon-shastar then obviously it will raise lot of eye brows in western countries and to be honest, their concerns are just as valid on safety premises. But if its presented as article of faith just like how canadian sikhs organization have done, then there shouldn't be a problem. It all depends how its presented, how well sikhs have tried to educate the masses there.

Go to your local gurdwara find out when is next amrit sanchar is and go around that time to speak to them take your parents with you. If it's urgent find out if you can speak to local gyani ji at the gurdwara. You should also take hakumnama from Sri guru granth sahib ji and deeply reflect , contemplate on it with full openess,receptivity,with your intuition(surti) or gut feeling not with condioned mind. Hope everything works out for you ..Good luck.

ਜਬ ਨਿਰਗੁਨ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਹਜ ਸੁਭਾਇ ॥ जब निरगुन प्रभ सहज सुभाइ ॥ Jab nirgun parabẖ sahj subẖā▫e. When God was without attributes, in absolute poise, ਤਬ ਸਿਵ ਸਕਤਿ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਿਤੁ ਠਾਇ ॥ तब सिव सकति कहहु कितु ठाइ ॥ Ŧab siv sakaṯ kahhu kiṯ ṯẖā▫e. then where was mind and where was matter - where was Shiva and Shakti? Could above agam gurbani be indication of mahasamadhi? Above ultimate state is also known as Sehaj Nirvakalap Samadhi where mind is dead, resolved in Parbhraman, identity lost..gone gone gone gone totally beyond

One needs to be seriously honest with themselves, if one truly feels in experience worldly things are illusion and feel nirlaip like lotus in muddy water then in my opinion go for it -don't hold back- mingle with outside crowd which does not have same interest as you but if you are type of person who are quite driven by outside five senses(engage in it, fail to witness them ignore them) than i suggest you avoid it keep engaging in more sangat, gurbani vichar with effort until vichar becomes effortless and you are automatically drawn towards vichar, bairaag regardless of outside situation then at that point, outside places or worldy influences will lose its power grip on you.

Well ops parents need to hear it clealrly that Sikhs don't believe in camel jockie medieval caste junk system and they are not easing the amrit sanchar anand karaj process by bringing their caste baggage into it. That's first hurddle that has to resolved. Then op needs to be quizzed by panj pyares regarding her desire to take amrit and her soon to be spouse.

Relax most people who do panj pyares di seva are saints anyway.

Is your(op) parents amritdhari? Are you and your parents follow any an holy figure whether in form of panj pyares or saint that you are willing to listen or have them meditate an solution?

Being doctor is bit of double edge sword. On one hand, being in medical profession inadvertently can help you in your spiritual journey, as they see first hand what human suffering looks like on daily basis it can provide lot of bairaag, can provide deeper perspective in life that despite of best medical they cannot save- ultimately there is higher power, can give you chance to do seva of another being. On second hand, depending on perception of individual it could also open gate of power control issues, abuse issues, using patients as mere subject as their guinea pig to proof if medication/different medicine/different approach works and it can also bring massive god complex attitude in them. So really depends on how you look at it.

Five vices thoughts are quite sticky in other words- high calibre thoughts which invokes action/reaction very quickly, thoughts in general be it 5 vices or not- you cannot totally get rid of it over tonight, not until you reach certain high spiritual stage-parkosh gyani stage/ naam liv stage- unbroken current of shabad. However, what you can do is to help your current situation significantly, here are some of the tips 1) always engage in seva 2) never let your mind sit unguarded always do vichar inside- start inquiry who am i? what i m doing here? source of mind, source of my existence, whats the nature of truth, whats the nature of reality etc etc- Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji gurbani question riddles to his sikhs are great way to start to be fully engage in vichar and great way to start to help you keeping your mind with bibek always busy- http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/76477-akaal-ustat-beautiful-questions-riddles/ 3) Gurbani contemplation 4) you can also try some breathing exercise with gurbani mantra- vahiguru - inhale-vahi, exhale-guru whenever bad thought arises as mind is totally connected with breath and vice versa, breathing will pull your mind inwards, taking you away from those thoughts. This will help you loosen your fixation on sticky thoughts, loosen power grip of sticky thoughts on you as now they are loosen into more liquid flow where you can witness your thoughts flowing- appearing and disappearing on their own accord..you will naturally feel that you are not fixated on to sticking thoughts anymore or they are not right infront of you-invoking quite action from our part. Enjoy, it requires an effort, honesty, integrity, earnestness on your part you will definitely be able to self control given the fact you are honest with yourself .

Real unattachment in Sikhi is shift in perception from personal love/attachment/care towards family to impersonal love/caring- universal compassion towards all which includes family, kids as well. We don't believe in asceticism/complete dis passion towards others (seeing family as maya or maya test) advocated by many ascetics people who go extreme lengths- go to mountains, move out of family, society to live their spiritual live

It's ok don't be too hard on yourself, you need to realize you have no control over kind of general furne-thoughts (not until enlightenment anyway) you will get, thoughts both good and bad will come and go. Regarding bad thoughts bad stuff about guru ji and gursikhs, read about our Guru's and gursikhs lives to get inspired, try to feel how much love, compassion they had for everyone after hearing great sakhiya of our Guru sahib, try to read gurbani, contemplate on it too see for yourself if there is any hate. Our Guru's were embodiment of truth, compassion with infinite love, provided justice for all, they were gareeb nawaj..they adorn the poor, lowest of low contrary to soceity rules. Regarding thoughts bothering you. Divide your mind in two- one for where all negative thoughts happen, second is the source of mind(call it your real self) where non dual jot saroop reside (Gurbani says Man tu jot saroop hai, apna mool painchain). Whenever bad thoughts occurs, try to witness the bad thoughts- don't be afraid just simply witness it without any judgement from your real self - 2nd portion of mind- source of mind just simply pure witness your first portion of mind with pure awareness-consciousness pure witness without any judgement, as you will keep practising this, you will notice negative thoughts manifested will go away in their own accord like clouds disappearing- our thoughts appear disappear on their accord you don't have to touch it its not your headache as you are sky period nothing matters to you you are sky-analogy. Don't try to resolve try to fix your thoughts , more you try to rebel against thoughts more harder it will become. Thoughts feeds off from our resistance/energy to stop thoughts - (mind cannot fix mind- only by going beyond mind- witness awareness-jot saroop - one can quite mind-negative energy of mind), give no power to your thoughts , give no resistance to it..it does not matter as you are not thought- cloud you are the sky..it does not matter at all.

I may be wrong but it looks like convert was cultural Buddhist than a practising one. In wider spiritual community Islam has virtually no presence or influence because of sharia mainstream sunni fanatic islam except from occasional reference from Rumi/Sufi saints writings. I highly doubt good practicing spiritual Buddhist will convert to sharia sunni fanatic islam that's like downward spiral into death cult.

Awesome movie trailer, hope these state sponsor terrorist demonic murderous cops who have thousands of innocent sikhs blood on their hands watch this film and feel fear of death, they may be to hide their fake encounters from general public but Waheguru power- KAAL-death sees everything, when its their time- KAAL will annihilates these demonic murderous cops. They are half dead anyway as fear has got to them. Psychological trembling with fear of death in their mind is much more severe than one shot physical death...they are quite fearful already, they are half dead body just alive for their final time as KAAL has already take life out these murderous cops. Divine justice in form of Psychological trembling death in fear in their mind is more severe than physical court justice while that should also be pursued by sikh human rights groups.

From absolute truth perspective, its IKoankar One non dual pure jot(knowledge)/awareness being fully nirlaip-de-attached not confined yet fully expereincing itself via its creation, expressing itself in movement - creating, preserving and changing creation, expressing itself without any agenda, sponteounsly effortlessly choicelessly. Here is sri guru gobind singh ji maharaj says- akaal purkh- sat himself is enjoyer- bhugtaie. Chattra Chakkra Vartee, Chattra Chakkra Bhugatay, Suyambhav Subhang Sarab Daa Saraab Jugatay. Dukaalan Pranasee, Diaalang Saroopay, Sadaa Ang Sangay, Abhangang Bibhutaay You are pervading in all the four directions, the Enjoyer in all the four directions. You are self-illumined, profoundly beautiful, and united with all. Destroyer of the torments of birth and death, embodiment of mercy. You are ever within us. You are the everlasting giver of indestructible power. But from relative reality since everyone of us are stuck in relative reality-maya- bhogi-enjoyer, bhog- enjoyment is all maya, we are subjected to five vices, karams, reincarnation, hell, heaven etc. So its matter of pure enlightened realized perception, one needs to get rid of egoic conditioned mindset/ doership let truth-gurbani shallow them alive- merged them in jevan mukht (ekta of nirgun and sargun state) then only through full embodiment of absolute-truth one can engage in relative realities without getting caught up because then one is god realized--bhramgyani which sees everything with pure perception/with realization of absolute truth as gurbani states- Chattra Chakkra Vartee, Chattra Chakkra Bhugatay, Suyambhav Subhang Sarab Daa Saraab Jugatay. Dukaalan Pranasee, Diaalang Saroopay, Sadaa Ang Sangay, Abhangang Bibhutaay You are pervading in all the four directions, the Enjoyer in all the four directions. You are self-illumined, profoundly beautiful, and united with all. Destroyer of the torments of birth and death, embodiment of mercy. You are ever within us. You are the everlasting giver of indestructible power.

Great post harsharan veer ji. Here is sukhmani sahib on topic of doership: ਜਬ ਇਹ ਜਾਨੈ ਮੈ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਰਤਾ ॥ जब इह जानै मै किछु करता ॥ Jab ih jānai mai kicẖẖ karṯā. As long as this mortal thinks that he is the one who does things, ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਗਰਭ ਜੋਨਿ ਮਹਿ ਫਿਰਤਾ ॥ तब लगु गरभ जोनि महि फिरता ॥ Ŧab lag garabẖ jon mėh firṯā. he shall wander in reincarnation through the womb. From absolute point of view, its only one Ikoankar expressing itself in its movement - creating, preserving and changing creation spontaneously effortlessly*. However, this jiv in ignorance think its me- I (egoic mindset) brings doership into play, as soon as there is doership- ਜਬ ਇਹ ਜਾਨੈ ਮੈ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਰਤਾ then there is karam, reincarnation etc etc as gurbani says ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਗਰਭ ਜੋਨਿ ਮਹਿ ਫਿਰਤਾ ॥- he shall wander in reincarnation through the womb.. Seeker needs to be relaxed, give up doership as its not his/her at the first place- see through reality via pure perception- intuitive awareness (bibek)- gyan of Ikonkar satnaam, be receptive towards hakum always unfolding (kiv sachi-aaraa ho-ee-ai kiv koorhai tutai paal. hukam rajaa-ee chalnaa naanak likhi-aa naal. ||1|| ) rather than seeing things through conditioned mind. Hakum is always unfolding regardless but the point here is gyani ( be it parkosh or aporakash gyani) / bhramgyani sees the hakum unfolding with clear pure perception/clear lense whereas this ignorant jiv like us brings personal story (victim/egoic conditioned mindset) / separate I into this picture unable to see or feel, recognize pure hakum unfolding. Nevertheless, indeed everyone is under hakum whenever one is ready will automatically get drawn towards seeing higher reality and one will be able to see it through clean /clear lense. * Absolute truth always unfolding/ always expressing itself*

Places like himachal where there are quite diverse advanced indic spiritual school of thoughts. There AkJ, SGPC, akaali daal, missionary parcharik simply got no chance..They will eat their rebuttals alive for breakfast..you need nihangs symbolism study ,Raj yog study from udasi, gurmat gyan study shared by taksal and nirmale to do parchar and win debates there. It won't be easy. But it can be done

Good post everyone..lots of great ideas..Why can't leaders from sgpc,akj, taksal ,nihang ,akaali dal mann , missionary sit together and work out details of parchar? I do sense lot of bureacacy ,red tapes,finger pointing between these groups. I think sooner we can drop these groups attachment better it is..for eg one can adapt taksal parchar secrets of parchar, questions and answers winning debates how gurmat is supreme yet have no attachment towards inter jatha taksal attachment type poltics.

It will automatically happen, live, practise, experience Sikhi-truth yourself first when one is able to embodied -truth sat sat bani in their actions- truth- pure live - awakened jot - Ikoankar Satnaam embodied through person will automatically naturally draw people into sikhi and those sikhs will never sway away/ never fade away as those non sikhs reasoning of conversation would be internal spark gurbani connection from spirit to spirit rather than conceptual mind to mind which fades away, there are many people who converted into sikhi conceptually but due to lack of experience they swayed away. Live Ikoankar Satnaam-truth word embodied through person has more magnetic pull , more divine mysterious power than thousands of conceptual sikhi missionary material put together. Ever notice how simple presence of gurbani embodied through mahapursh has more magnetic pull than thousands hours of dry missionary parchar. Most non sikhs (assuming western) have no interest in dry conceptual religious stuff embodied by superficial/conceptual people they can smell hypocrisy a mile off.

ISIS, Sunni Islam is absolute serious threat to humanity, islamic sharia ideology is even more dangerous. West has to be be deeply involved in Islam ideological affairs if they want to beat fascist islam, they can no longer ignore its not our problem. West has to be deeply involved to break their fascist ideological belief. Ideological war fare is more important, they should be targeting mullahs, schools literature, fascist literature in islamic schools right from early by funding heavy moderate proper contexual interpretation of islam for example scholars- raza aslan among others etc. Absolute fascist one dimensional one liner black and white out of context interpretation of hadiths, quran other text is root problem has to be replaced by various proper metaphysical context.

If maharaj does kirpa on this task,i be sharing in next couple of days some deep gnosis behind sukhmani sahib gurbani divine couplets: ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਸਦਾ ਸਦ ਜਾਗਤ ॥ ब्रहम गिआनी सदा सद जागत ॥ Barahm gi▫ānī saḏā saḏ jāgaṯ. The God-conscious being is awake and aware, forever and ever Bhramgyani is forever awake/awareness, He/she may appear sleeping but they never sleep. What sleep is five senses but they are turiya pure awareness witness/light which supports all three states- jagrat, suuponan and sukhopat. Sant mani singh gives indication or ishara of bhramgyani state which is pure awareness (unconditioned/choiceless/effortless awareness). This enlightened/jot-light knowledge- awareness is within each one of us, at this very time at this moment, waiting for us to recognize itself, realize it.

Looking for good match, any team who goes underdog later on in the game that's the team i am supporting. If its gets close any team who held their nerves all the way- thats what i am supporting. Anyway, looking for good old exciting cricket match.