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No bro the painting is relatively old and of a Nihang Singh approx from time of Sikh Raj under a tree resting listening to classical music. Wasn't an orthodox painting but it's very nice.

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Who cares you don't hire a hitman and send your goons to kill someone over difference in veechar. You don't kill someone because they have fallen do you? By mentioning this stuff they are justifying attack and being apologists for dhuma.

I was never a big fan of the style of katha that Baba Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwale did but he does good parchar. He replied and stated truth that dhuma is a government agent and now they turned this into a beadbi and Dasam Granth Sahib bani issue that some Taksal members who are against dhumma have bandwagoned on.Dhuma is using sikh sentiments to solidify his position as jathedar by creating an issue out of nothing with dhadrianwala. Some people are so easily to manipulate like sheep

Just picture you dropping a beat down on a ghost and you'll be fine lol. Ghosts don't effect Sikhs

Last time I saw it was years aGo on the internet. Just randomly remembered it sitting at GW lol

I'm having a very weird case of Deja Vu. Sitting in langar hall and then Google looking for the same painting and this thread was first thing I found with my google search lol. Has been almost 3 years on dot and still haven't found it. Anyone? The Singh is resting under a tree and appears to be listening to classical music.

Just looked this up, can't wait until it comes out: Journalist Surinder Singh is such a great person

http://akaalpublishers.com/?product=reflections-on-1984

Problem is being consciously uneducated because of fake leaders and fake sants. It is deliberate to keep us passive and lost as a whole kaum.We are definitely educated and spiritually well off but that doesn't mean our weaknesses as a whole isn't what S. Kapur Singh mentioned. What he said can directly relate to dhuma.

I thought he got called to Sri Akaal Takhat Sahib. Hopefully he did peshi, but his contribution to Gurmat Sangeet is without question.

We're seeing the effects of having uneducated individuals causing such problems in Punjab and now we have youth who are copying our adults and adopting uneducated mentality by supporting these nakli sant/sadhs which are causing so many problems in Sikh Panth.

That's good to hear. Looks like Dhuma and BJP/RSS have strong supporters in the UK - despite being in small numbers. Funny how they're turning this into a Sri Dasam Granth issue and dhuma is using the same tactics black cats and politicians use to do thuggery and murder right in the face of Sikh panth and still get away with it with a clean chit. Behafkoofi, moorakhta te avde bezti karoun di vi koi hadh hundi a. These missionary idiots aren't tankhaiya yet and even if they were initially this has to be a battle of veechars and Bhai Ranjit SIngh has already clarified he has never spoken out against Damdami Taksal and never spoke out against Dasam Bani. Dhuma using sentiments of Sikhs to save his jathedari position because he knows most Sikhs are against him. He feels if he can get a few narrow minded individuals to defend him it'll be enough to keep his interest in the game. BJP/RSS own Badals and from history we know Badal will say and do anything just to stay in power. Badal/KPS Gill and BJP-RSS have planted Dhuma into Taksal and Badal has control over SGPC and Sri Akaal Takhat Sahib. Consciously or inadvertently if you defend Dhuma in this issue - you're supporting the beadbi of Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Damdami Taksal. If it wasn't proof already that he will bend over and dance for badal as being anti-Sikh - now that he supports murder of fellow Sikhs and is causing bholay and consciously shraarti individuals to support the attack and shaheedi of Bhai Bhupinder Singh it should be glaringly obvious that no Amridhari rehitvaan Khalsa who belives in Sikh asool will ever support a maha daint. My only personal moral conflict is whether it's worth opening your mouth against such individuals because they're so narrow minded in their views that they do not respect Sat - the Truth and will go further as to threaten you with physical violence if you speak the truth against their gang leader. Ramoowala spoke out against Sant Jarnail Singh Khalsa Bhindranwale but Sant Ji would have dealt with anyone who attacked him in such a manner that every Sikh would remember the Hukam of Guru Sahib to never attack a fellow Sikh. Instead Sant Ji gave such a reply that today every Sikh has Sant Jarnail Singh Khalsa Bhindranwale's jeevan in their heart. I'll leave sangat with this ithihaas from our Sikh history after the death of Maharaja Ranjit Singh of a mahapursh and how they lived their ucha sucha jeevan:

I'm hoping the ridiculousness of caste racism dies at our new Sikh generation

Judging from the interview online Baba Ram Singh spoke the truth

This is absolutely true. It is jungle raaj in Punjab literally and there is no rule of law. It's very dangerous and the hitmen that badal/dhumma/kps gill sent aren't the last ones. It's likely they will try again.

No such thing it's not Guru's rehit

N30 bro I've come to start agreeing with more and more you say over the years with the exception with a few historical things that are okay to have difference in vichar over as Sikhs. With that said and agreeing with your post wouldn't it also he correct to label this has a ploy by an entity that is either Badal, RSS mindset establishment, raw, central or whoever that is also adding fuel to the fire of these peanut individuals? The puppet masters know what they're doing. Similarly how missionaries are trying to cause permanent divisions like British or congress funded derawaad has. My sincere question is whether you believe there is a high probability, given the facts surrounding Dhumma, that there are groups involved behind wants going on with Dhumma and his chelas that wish the Sikh panth ill and/or they are trying to do it for the groups own gain. Hopefully my write-up on my cell phone makes sense. Don't proof read for coherent sentences and grammar as much anymore.

Good analysis Singhballer - I concluded the same thing. It is very obvious of the glaring difference between his initial knee <banned word filter activated> reaction and the complete change of tone, stance and overall portrayal in front of the camera. It's a clear case of support from lawyers and some shraarti individuals. The beginning is good and his analysis of how GurSikhs carry out such veechars, but in the middle I disagree how S. Ajmer Singh mentions how Sikhs have their own views on Sri Dasam Granth. He makes it sound like it isn't important to Khalsa Panth which I think is wrong. I guess he's right about how Dhuma's chelas cussed out the missionaries who attended because of the incorrect language used, even against missionaries, I don't think that's how you carry out parchar against missionary mindset. The way Dr. Harbhajan Singh Ji intellectually dismantled Dhunda is how it should be done. That is the nishaani of a GurSikh.

It's unfortunate he died, but the sins of the parents and ancestors carry on to next generations. The true sakhi of the Sikhs who didn't obey Daveh Patshah's hukam of doing last rites of dead individuals in field according to their dharam were told by Guru Sahib that their generations will give birth to these Muslims and we're seeing the effect of this today. Similarly there is a strong effect of such naastik and satanic elements like Jonny paji correctly pointed out and it's only with very big kirpa from Guru Sahib that someone is able to follow GurSikh panth.

This is exactly what I was thinking but I decided not to mention because examples of self destructive narrow minded self righteous individuals did come to mind.Edit: its all about balance and not being so open minded and not being a nut and not being so narrow minded that you're destructive.

Bro where can I get books by Sent Giani Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwale in hard copy?

Something to think about.

Difference is Sant Kartar Singh Bhindranwale and Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale would have done jhatka of these individuals with the modern knowledge that they were responsible for countless innocent lives and for attack on Harmandir Sahib.With this knowledge dhuma still acted like a naukar of badal giving him mithai. Truth can't be supressed through insults and indirect threats.