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If our own people and our parchariks are not focusing attention on converting the muslims and christians then it shows they have been mentally enslaved to not tackle the problem. Instead of believing in leftist anti-sikh nonsense of all faiths are equal and Sikhi doesnt teach us to convert others. We should be believing in the opposite because the opposite is gurmat and the other is manmukh. Guru Nanak Sahib ji was the first who converted hindu and muslim to the new path and others continued until the martyrdom of Guru arjun sahib ji thats when islamic rulers saw the threats to their power as more muslims were converting to sikhi. After that Sikhs were ordered to fight a violent battle for survival and Sikhs spent most of their energy on existence and after that gaining political power than spreading the spiritual deen to non-believers. Now that we are in relatively peaceful times there is no excuse for Sikhs not to target non-believers for conversion. As you convert others you will learn about sikhi too thats one of the gifts and rewards of giving out Sikhi parchar.

The problem is clearly laid out in various threads of many years, over various news stories of muslim attacks on sikhs, over our own sikh history. Are you not seeing all this or willfully ignorant? why Sikhs have a hard time forming friendship with muslims its not because Sikhs dont want to be friends with muslims infact most sikhs are friends with muslims even though we all know muslims do not wish our community peace and prosperity in the long term as its written in their scriptures they will have to fight all the non-muslims on the day of judgement so they always got that in back of their mind to see us as the enemy regardless of how peaceful and good we are to them. Moreover it is hardcore muslims who like all abrahamics are essentially taught in their faith to do over the non-believer because in the end the non-muslim will go to hellfire in the end for not following quran and sunnah. Your comparison between british imperialist invaders of india and muslims is like comparing apples and oranges. British white imperialists invaded india and did harm in the interests of monetary financial gain the islamic invaders did so primarily for ideological basis to convert or kill the unbeliever and to change the religion of the native inhabitants. Who was Bhai Mardana ? he was a sufi who falls outside the fold of mainstream muslim sunni community Who was Pir Buddu shah ? he was a sufi who falls outside the fold of mainstream muslim sunni community And who are the majority of muslims worldwide who have a problem with sikhs and other non-believers? It's the sunni muslim community. The ones bashing Sikhs in indian media are alliance of leftist communists atheists and congress (anti-sikh sikh genocide party and hardcore indian muslim votebank). The ones bashing indian muslims in the media tend to be right wing hindu nationalists of BJP and mixture of atheist communists. The only muslims we can see eye to eye on ideological spiritual basis would be the sufi type of muslims because they are open minded they believe that God is everywhere whereas mainstream sunni muslims believe God is above his creation sitting on a throne with face and leg characteristics.

That's true, even most western based afghan sikhs don't even talk about the plight and suffering of their fellow afghan sikhs in afghanistan under islamic rule and brutal oppression its beyond embarrassing its shameful as theirs and our kaum's silence is complicit in the genocide of sikhs in afghanistan, pakistan and kashmir.

Sure Sikhs and muslims can be friends but not 1 way friendship where Sikhs are made to feel obligated to respect islamic teachings and practises and in return their muslim friends do not hold the same respect for Sikhi. Also where we dont want mentally enslaved dhimmi subjugated Sikhs like this going around with fudhu antics lowering their Sikhi self respect infront of muslims boosting their already sky high ego that their faith is the true one and rest are destined for hellfire as they are taught in quran.

I read an article in pakistani news site few years back that wrote about the condition of pakistani punjabi christians and their origins. Most of them were low caste dalit hindu and sikhs and the local punjabi muslims knew they were low caste hence why they still get treated like crap 2nd class citizens by most of the higher caste pakistani muslim society. The jobs they do are toliet cleaners, garbage collecters all the filthy hard menial work that most people dont want to do. Islamic ideology about non-muslims and muslim attacks in europe influenced breivek especially as he was bullied, racially and religiously assaulted by muslim immigrants while growing up in norway and as a reaction that drew him into racist white ethno nationalism extremist ideology and terrorist movement. The 2083 date is probably to do with the time when whites will regain europe from the muslim demographic problem which will have reached way above the 40% mark by then and the majority of non-muslim white population will have felt oppressed enough to take extreme violent actions to counter what they see is the threat to their identity and very existence..

It has already happened few years ago in america between 2 3HO white western so called sikhs not sure if their so called marriage was performed in presence of SGGS Ji though but most if not all gurdwara's in the UK would not allow it they have even put a stop to inter-faith marriages now. However surprisingly there has been gay marriages between muslims recently in the west. These tiny minority of homosexuals are not a threat to Sikhi as Sikhi is far bigger than the LGBT agenda / ideology. To us its just abnormal behaviour and thinking if they claim to be gay/lesbian Sikh. They should be just left alone to do their thign and they should leave us alone to practise our faith how its always been practised. We do not see it what homosexuals get up to will cast these people into hellfire like abrahamics do this is why most Sikhs do not kick up a fuss with them. We are tolerant and patience people.

One thing i noticed is some of these so called sardars advocating for LGBT rights have been become so feminised so brainwashed so beaten down by their own friends, family and society and as a result they feel they dont get women giving them attention so start to feel rejected and start they belong to the LGBT community as they accept any sexual desire regardless of its abnormality. We saw a few cases where Singhs been caught making out with homosexuals/shemales/trannies. All these people are confused atheist punjabi's they need to understand they are not following Sikhi they are following adharam (atheist/irreligious behaviour) These so called Sikhs should not go by their desires but go by the examples of Guru Sahibans and of Sikh historical traditions and customs. If everyone followed their way Sikhi would have been extinct within a few years of it starting.

lol this is the state of leftist western sikhi right now We have tiny minority of vocal <banned word filter activated> feminist homosexual SJW leftists who have taken over the narrative dictating what is sikhi in their twisted eyes. The silent majority who are right win and traditionalists are not even bothering to enter the debate cos they don't want to pick a fight with these idiots. One thing we would love to see is these kinda so called Sikhs live in islamic countries like saudi, afghanistan or somalia see how far they get with their bs lol

Definitely brother. As Guru Nanak Sahib ji says in gurbani. you'll harvest the seeds you sow. So if we spread and sow the seeds of sikhi far into the earths field sooner or later the harvest of new Sikhs will emerge. Clash is inevitable those who are wise can see the signs and prepare. Jews, Muslims and Christians are always waiting for Armageddon awaiting that final clash of clashes where their own chosen group will be saved while the rest will perish. So they are always alert to future clashes with non-believers. Hindu's generally are pretty relaxed only act when the conflict storm is upon them. And us Sikhs generally come very late to the party with the storm already having ravaged us without preparations. It was only in 1947 did our people begin to prepare on early for what was to come and managed to save a large population of Sikhs from getting annihilated with racist british white imperialists and their congress and islamic stooges plans to finish our people in the partition genocide of punjab but we against all odds survived. And again they conspired and tried in 1984 and our peoples preparations were very late and very limited otherwise a devastating blow could have landed on the indian parliament and army had enough indian sikh soldiers defected on early to the dharmi sikh rebels side. Us Sikhs need to develop the science and study of future signs and trends. self proclaimed Islamic scholars do this very well at the moment guiding their flock. Sikhs scholars used to have this ability in puritan times but no there is no mainstream Sikh person doing it. Pakistan is a good ripe ground for Sikh sphere of influence if Sikhs play their cards right they can win many converts from the sufi muslim community. Many pakistani muslim families who have ancestry of Sikh heritage are pretty open minded to Sikhi as long as sikhs maintain respect for the similarities of islam and a love for pakistan they can bring them closer to Sikhi. The pakistani hindu sindhi's are very pro-sikh in their outlook. the pakistani christians are mostly of poorer dalit hindu and sikh ancestry who were forced to convert to christianity to save themselves from musilm mobs in 1947 as they weren't economic rich enough to travel to safety. They too can be guided to become Sikhs. As for europe the white ethno nationalists will clash with rising islamic demographic sooner or later thats if the muslims do not reform islam and islamic culture to blend into the mainstream european culture as the Jews did centuries ago. Andres breveik the white freemason nationalist terrorist who murdered 70+ people in norway, wrote a manifesto titled 2083 which states how european whites will fight back against the non-whites especially the muslims to win back europe. Everyone thought he is a mass murderer crackhead a nutjob a far right extremist loonie. Yes he is alll that but he is also a forecaster he does have the ability to see how islamic numbers will rise and the inevitable political demands will start more violence will occur and then the eventual civil war fight will start as it happened in the yugoslav balkans war and in serbia with kosovo. Even if a natural clash doesn't happen the rich atheist capitalist elites will want and fund a clash between peoples as it will suit their purposes to blame other people for problems the public face while they secretly rule from above.

Dangerous for people but nice to see big wild life still alive these days over there. Been a few times leopards have come in punjab after the lockdown wild animals all over the place are feeling more freer and braver to roam around normally busy human habitations.

If you treat sikhi like an ethnicity/race/nationality then it will inevitably be surrounded and over run very easily in todays times. The solution has always been to spread sikhi by parchar convert those who want to convert you. If your religion and ideology is superior than that of atheism, islam or christianity it will win through but if our lazy a$$ sikhs who want to live comfortably with "senu key" attitude, dont care about their fellow Sikhs and ultimately dont want to put in that work dont want to convert non-believers dont want to spread the deen and want to get over run therefore the choice is theirs. We cant win in the numbers demographics game in the west or outside of indian punjab because the root cause which is lack of parchar, it's the key real problem. Even if you had a good number of Sikhs you will still be over run in any disagreement or conflict because their numbers are many times greater and like i said sikhi is not a genetic thing its an ideology a spiritual path that is ment to be spread. If we take afghan Sikhs in afghanistan as an example these unfortunate souls are are getting killed for free with no help from anyone including our own weak global sikh kaum. They have no power no influence so are easily victimsed by evil minded sunni muslims. Whereas they either could have gone all out and tried to convert local muslims to become secret Sikhs (like an underground movement) or could have done revenge attacks on anti-sikh sunni salafi extremist people long time ago as they dont have not much to lose any more. in 1980s they had good numbers to form self defense militant groups their mistake was relying on the good nature of afghans to safeguard their lives and livelihoods. Doing nothing has led to the inevitable when islam is concerned sooner or later when the muslim mafia extremists muscle in pushing weak peaceful friendlier muslims to the sidelines and take charge to force non-muslims to either pay the extortionate protection racquet jizya tax, or convert to their brand of islam or face death.

The version that makes sense to me is the one I use the punjabi to english translation which was translated by harbans singh doabia.

Theres several theories where the word "kaur" came from. But I like to think Guru Ji created it as a special title for baptised Sikh females. If we go by the logic it came from kumar or kanwar or some other indian language word then why didnt he just create "singhniya" or let sikh females be refered to as singhs aswell as the men. It stands to reason there was logic behind why they were princesses because they were to be seen as royality as beautiful women that men would have to honour and protect.

Some have been claiming Kaur actually means crown prince and not princess so when Guru Gobind singh ji created the Khalsa and named baptised Sikh men as Singh as lions he is then allegedly have baptised Sikh women as kaurs meaning crown prince (according to feminist revisionists) and not princess? I find that an absurd notion. The correct and logical meaning has always been kaur means princess because of the gender differences and Guru Ji knew that women preferred to beautify themselves and raise the family and men liked to be the protector and hunter for the family/community. But it seems people are determined to twist sikhi to suit their own anti-nature feminist agenda. I've checked many of the sources from where these people tried to link kaur with rajastani words like kanwar,etc and none of them add up or make logical sense.

Btw its free to watch on youtube now. Having seen it I was quite disappointed to be honest not the high budget epic or controversial film i thought it would be. Very mild and politically correct. I think we need more films on the guru's proper giving the sermons to the wrong doers.

I know bro, they are most of the white pale looking jews from eastern europe are ashkanazi jews whose ancestors are alleged to have converted in the 10th century. It's the shepardi jews who are the original ones most of them are dark in skin tone. The true jews consider israel as a perversion of biblical prophercy and a fake israel. They are right it is mostly a capitalist money worshipping atheist Rothschild israel which was created. But in general as a community of believers they have managed to get their nation state re-established through being top dogs in international finance where they are able to be puppet masters of western governments and enslave other nations through debt and interest loans. Similar Sikhs did try something in 1980s by creating a Sikh bank in punjab to fund self sufficiency within the sikh community but indira gandhi's congress government took it over and shut it down.

We as a kaum should have brought a small island to develop a nation long ago just as a based to have free speech and thought for Sikhi. There are small groups of Sikhs in argentina, mexico, chile, even andormon islands off the indian coast. We are spread all around the globe like jews, who were for thousands of years roaming around to get back to their nation israel. And only by owning international financial banking power did they manage control western governments and eventually get back to their homeland and re-create israel in 1948. Similar Sikhs need to think long term how to liberate punjab from indian and pakistani occuption as part of a long term goal in the mean time develop ourselves financially and look to convert those who seek to convert us.

Well we will have to do something. Our kaum has been made to look like low IQ clowns for long enough by idiots diverting attention to BJP Modi or RSS hindutva lot when they are the ones who are bringing punjabi christians back into Sikhi and hinduism with the ghar wapsi movement. When our low IQ SJW leftist sikh people go around Sikhi teaches all religions are equal it makes a mockery of Sikhi. It really plays into the hands of these abrahamic missionaries. Because people want difference in their lives, why would they want to be sikh if they can be christian or muslim. So if all religions are accepted by God it kinda defeats the purpose of being a Sikh with just that kinda stupid SJW liberal preaching. Gurbani says different faiths lead to God doesnt mean they are all equal. On an individual level we must make efforts to counter their narratives. We are at an ideological intellectual war with abrahamic missionaries and if Sikhs are true gyan warriors and defenders of their faith they need to be combat ready to argue why Sikhi is superior and is the truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZBHByPUwlM

Like their abrahamic cousins they know how to groom people on a psychological level. Just reading their christian websites on how to approach Sikhs you can see how careful they are not to offend Sikhs but at the same time have that alterior motive in their minds to convert them. Tell the Sikhs to dream of jesus in their dreams and ask for his help and next step in grooming process is eventually let the Sikh say openly he rejects Sikhi as its from the deceptions of the devil and jesus is the only lord i am worshipping. If you look at the punjabi christian converts in their videos they have a mental crazed wild look in their eyes like proper cult members they obviously have personal issues at home and they found Christianity as a form of escapism from their mental problems blame everything on the non-existant devil figure not taking any personal responsibility for their own faults sins and lifestyle blame everything on the 3rd party. This is same thing what islam and muslims do if they sin its cos shaytan the devil's tempted them very convenient. They seem to think humans are perfect until the shaytan/satan the devil tempts them into evil and sin.... pure madness. These people need to get a grip and get a dose of reality.

lol the firm old skool punjabi auntia know how to put those who try to convert our people in their place.

The best remedy of dealing with missionaries is using exposure videos and testimony of ex-christians so that Sikhs and other punjabis are not fooled into joining the cult in the first place. Heres an ex-convert christian who converted back to hindu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihkMjrXtsfM And heres a youtube channel exposing the crazy antics of christian missionaries in india: https://www.youtube.com/user/noconversion

Well said i think Sikhs have not really understood the christian evangelical mindset. Most white westerners have turned their back to Christianity because having born and brought up with it taught with bible from cover to cover it doesn't make sense to them any more. Christian missionaries are selling a very basic version of christanity (like just accept the white man jesus as your lord and saviour and you'll be saved) mostly in the non-white parts of the world especially in punjab in the hope they will take the bait and convert. We see the social dangers of what happens when christian punjabis start to flex their muscles in 2017 protest over comments made by a sikh guy arguing with a punjabi christian preacher. The Sikh guys innocent comments were seen as blasphemy against jesus and they came out on the roads attacking buses and the public. Demanding the arrest of the guy in their violent protests which the authorities did eventually do under their pressure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjL6J9RrSXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYlJLcqzEgU Now we imagine the future if punjab becomes a christian majority state, what would happen to Sikhs and their ability to question Christianity or the motives of rich highly paid pastors. It will be a bit like whats happening to Sikhs in pakistan oppressed and having to be very careful in how they live because always in fear of being targeted by the abrahamic cult members.

Difference is with Sikhi is in our version of hell is for the soul in coming back to creation (could be plant,insect, animal, human,etc) whereas there's is a separate entity of hell where the devil resides and torments the non-believers of jesus. Guru Arjun sahib mentions the incarnate of people into heaven and hell and back and forth meaning its a state of mind and state of soul because it would be nonsensical for people to have reached heaven and then get chucked in hell as if they were separate from our existence on earth now. And your right these things are not taught enough to Sikhs its more lovey dovey stuff not the harsher stuff to keep people firm to the guru's boat of Sikhi. Abrahamics are very good at keeping their congregation compliant and terrorized with crazy visions of doom if they do not follow the narrative of the bible bashing pastor. The emphasis in Sikhi version of hell has not been conveyed to the masses. A hell could be you being born an insect and being burnt alive by bush-fires or deliberately by humans. Or being born as an animal which is going to be slaughtered for food. Hell can also mean when you are suffering in physical or mental pain and not enjoying this life the cure is following the Guru. As for jamdhoots i think they are reserved for people who have done the worst of crimes/sins and they are sent right after you die and just before judgement is passed on you to be reincarnated back into existence again.

I've noticed something about christian missionary vultures with their relative recent surge in activity in punjab from 1990s. What they couldn't manage by force and invasion in 1800's with the racist white christian british empire and brutal troops ruling over them they are achieving with indigenous punjabi evangelical christian pastors preaching to the masses freely and unhindered by any authorities. These missionary christians slowly groom the unsuspecting naive sikhs and other punjabis telling them Jesus is a guru too and eventually tell them that jesus is only Guru and then he is God they must exclusively follow. That they must reject their previous faith, culture and customs. If they do not their soul will go into hellfire as they will be seen as sinners who rejected Jesus. It seems something has changed in punjab and the punjabi character in being so secular and liberal allowing abrahamics to invade their minds whereas in previous generations they would have thought it unthinkable to become a christian it would have seen something of a embarrassment of choosing the religion of your oppressor. And the missionaries would not have dared to try and convert Sikhs in punjab especially with them telling our people secretly and openly our religion is from the devil and we are all going to hell if we do not become Christians. Have we become too tolerant too soft?

Money never goes where it was intended to go most of it is used up in salaries for top management, in expenditure costs and bribing the foreign officials with sweetheart deals of the countries/organisations they are they trying to infiltrate or buy/rent.