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Thank you for the post, what kind of stuff does the serving usually include? When making i guess a sadhu your "Guru" is there a form of initiation ? Or a specific code of conduct ? e.g maybe never getting married etc..

I have heard that Nirmala Sikhs still hold a somewhat of a Guru- Chela relationship, So my question is how does Guru Granth Sahib get incorporated into this or is the relationship just like that of a vidiya Guru or sant? Maybe someone can also mention how the Nirmalas have influenced Sikhi and also list some of the Akharas and Saints from the Nirmala Sikhs

^ there is nothing wrong with love marriages. But the other things you talk of are happening all over the world.

Will there be English translations to?

There is nothing wrong with believing Sant Jarnail Singh is Shaheed. People look at Bhai Randhir Singh as a Gurmukh but dont agree with everything he said e.g keski, ragmala I don't see why people cant think of Sant Baba Tahkur Singh ji as a Gurmukh but not agree with everything he said. I like to believe Sant ji is in Chardikala and will return, but i keep an open mind on it. What i would like to know from you is when will Sant ji return? If he doesn't return then what? Will you simply say its "hukam" to bail yourself out from embarrassment ?

Like Aman said there has to be a serious change on the hiring process of Granthis, i think we should no longer bring so much granthis from India but train a new breed of western born granthis to fit the roles, obviously they would need to payed a decent salary to.

This guy is an inspiration and shows you what mindfulness can do. Whether you agree with what he did or not is debatable but you cannot deny how amazing it is that he sat through the fire without any sign of pain.

Feel free to PM me if your shy to reply on here

Agni Source: Vedic hymnsaddressed to Agni, the god of fire. Various references to Agni are found inMahabharata and Devi Bhagavata. Some References inGuru Granth Sahib ਵਿਸਮਾਦੁ ਅਗਨੀ ਖੇਡਹਿ ਵਿਡਾਣੀ ॥ Agni is called Baisantar Devta (// Asa M.1 p473). Its other namesare Parvak and Tejas. It is an evolute from Air (Paun Devta) and labours hardlike him under the fear of the Lord. ਆਸਾੜੁ ਭਲਾ ਸੂਰਜੁ ਗਗਨਿ ਤਪੈ ॥ The month of Aasaarh is good; the sunblazes in the sky. ਧਰਤੀ ਦੂਖ ਸਹੈ ਸੋਖੈ ਅਗਨਿ ਭਖੈ ॥ The earth suffers in pain, parched androasted in the fire. (Baramaha Tukhari M.1, p1108 ਕਾਸਟ ਮਹਿ ਜਿਉ ਹੈ ਬੈਸੰਤਰੁ ਮਥਿ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਕਾਢਿ ਕਢੀਜੈ ॥ Thepotential energy of fire is within the wood; it is released if you know how torub it and generate friction. Kalyan M.4 p1323 ਜੈਸੀ ਅਗਨਿ ਉਦਰ ਮਹਿ ਤੈਸੀ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਮਾਇਆ ॥ Asis the fire within the womb, so is Maya outside Ramkali M.3, Anand p921 Episode: There is no direct reference to anyepisode about Agni, the God of fire in Guru Granth Sahib Comments: We produce below a quotation regardingAgni, the god of fire as given in Epics, Myths and Legends of India (p28) byP.Thomas. It conveys the significance of this Vedic God: "Agni is the lord, protector, king of men. He isthe lord of the house, dwelling in every abode. He is the guest in every home,he despises no man, he lives in every family. He is therefore considered as amediator between gods and men, and as a witness of their actions; hence to thepresent day he is worshiped , and his blessings sought on all solemn occasions,as at marriage, death, etc. In these old hymns, Agni is spoken of as dwellingin the two pieces of wood, which being rubbed together produce fire, and it isnoticed as a remarkable thing that a living being should spring out of dry(dead) wood. Strange to say, says the poet, the child as soon as he is bornbegins with unnatural voracity to consume his parents. Wonderful is his growthseeing that he is born of the mother who cannot nourish him; but he isnourished by the oblations of clarified butter which are poured into his mouthand which he consumes."

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Agastya Source: Mahabharta, Ramayana, Uttara Ramayana, Bhagavata Purana, Devi Bhagavata Purana, Skandha Purana Reference in Guru Granth Sahib ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਸੀਅ ਧੇਨ ਲਛਿਮੀ ਕਲਪਤਰ ਸਿਖਰਿ ਸੁਨਾਗਰ ਨਦੀ ਚੇ ਨਾਥੰ ॥ Through the nectar, the moon, the wish-fulfilling cow, Lakshmi, the miraculous tree of life, Sikhar the sun's horse, and Dhanavantar the wise physician - all arose from the ocean, the lord of rivers; ਕਰਮ ਕਰਿ ਖਾਰੁ ਮਫੀਟਸਿ ਰੀ ॥੪॥ and yet, because of its karma, its saltiness has not left it. ||4|| Episode: In the above reference, the name of Agastya has not been given, but is implied. Agastya was a great rishi (Seer) of his time. When Indra killed Vritrasura, a demon, who was an enemy of the gods, his allies, the Kalakeya demons hid themshelves at the bottom of the ocean, from where they used to come to earth and devour the Brahmins, ruthelessly killing them. They also caused much damage to the hemitages of Vasishta and Cyavana. The Brahmins on earth were terribly afraid and prayed to the gods to protect them. The gods entreated Vishnu for the protection of the brahmins. Visnu told them that the ocean was dried up and the Kalakeya were caught, nothing could be done and this task could only be performed by Agastya. Agastya could not refuse the request made by gods, therefore he drank the whole ocean to the wonder of the spectators. The gods caught hold of all the demons and killed them. But now another problem arose for which the gods were told by Vishnu that the ocean would be filled again when Bhagirath, by his penance, would bring the Ganges on the earth. There is another version of the above episode. In order to save the world from the wrath of the demons, the gods arranged a sacrificial feast to which the ocean was also invited but did not come because of his ego, therefore Agastya drank him. When the beings of the sea began to writhe in agony, because of the want of water, Agastya, made water and filled the ocean again. This is the reason of the saltishness of the water of ocean. This is the reason of the saltishness of the water of the ocean. Comments: When the ocean was churned by the gods and demons jointly, fourteen precious gems (chaudeh rattan) came out of it.They included the ambrosia moon, elysian cow, lakshmi, the miraculous tree, the suns steed and the physician dhanantar. But still the water of the ocean could not become sweet and remained saltish because of his past Karmas Next will be Agni...

Ad Bhavani Souce: Purans Reference in Guru Granth Sahib ਤੂ ਕਹੀਅਤ ਹੀ ਆਦਿ ਭਵਾਨੀ ॥ You are called Ad Bhavani ਮੁਕਤਿ ਕੀ ਬਰੀਆ ਕਹਾ ਛਪਾਨੀ ॥੪॥ At the time of liberation, where will you hide then? ||4|| (Gond Namdev p. 874) Comments: The word Ad means 'from the beginning' and Bhavani is another name of Durga, the wife of Shiva. Thus Ad Bhavani may connote the Shakti of Shiva. The word Ad also gives the sense of 'the firs' or 'the original'. Ad Bhavani may be differentiated from Ad Shakti or Primal Power. Next will be Agastya

Guru Granth Sahib as you all may know has a lot of mythological references and it is always good to know who and what the story behind these references are so i will be posting mythological references that have been made in Guru Granth Sahib in alphabetical order from the book called dictionary of mythological references in Guru Granth Sahib. Starting with Adam Adam source: the Koran; the Bible Reference in Guru Granth Sahib- ਬਾਬਾ ਆਦਮ ਕਉ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਦਰਿ ਦਿਖਾਈ ॥ He bestowed His Grace on Adam, the father of mankind, ਉਨਿ ਭੀ ਭਿਸਤਿ ਘਨੇਰੀ ਪਾਈ ॥੨॥ who then lived in paradise for a long time. ||2|| Surinder Singh Kohli Translation - When God saw towards Adam with his unapproving eyes, how could he stay long in heaven then? (Bhario Kabir, p.1161) Comments: The references about Adam in Guru Granth Sahib is a back-handed compliment. On the face of it, it can be translated thus: "When God showed his eyes to Adam, he enjoyed heaven greatly." In the first few chapters of the Bible, it is stated that after God had created the universe, he took some of the dust of the earth and created Adam, a man. He was kept in the Garden of Eden, where there were fruit trees, rivers and other things, which he could desire. But still Adam was a lone man. Therefore God created his wife Eve from one of his ribs. Both of them lived happily. They had been forbidden by God to eat the fruit of one of the trees. This tree was the Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil. The couple did not yet know the evil. One day the devil entered the Garden in the form of a snake and persuaded Eve to eat the fruit of the above mentioned tree. Eve tasted some of it and gave some to Adam. Thus on the inducement of the Devil, they broke the law of the Garden and no longer remained innocent. As a punishment, they were driven out of the Garden. They had disobeyed God and had brought evil into the world. Next will be : Ad Bhavani

The way she talks is frigging scary as hell, i know id have goosebumps if i was there. ****shivers***

If we accept polygamy then i am guessing we should also accept polyandry were a women is allowed more than one husband?

Why cant i find anywhere on the site to subscribe to it?

If that is the case that A Sikh is someone who follows ALL the commands of Guru Sahib then, the Amritdhari that doesn't wake up at Amritvela is just as bad as her. I personally dont care about this women and the fact that she killed her own daughter is probably my main reason. What we need to understand that men will never understand the struggle that a women faces when it comes to facial hair, not just the fact that a woman with facial hair is considered abnormal in society but im sure even amongst those men that preach about women should keep hair and ridicule them if they don't is hypocrisy, i doubt anyone of them would want to marry a women with facial hair.

Character > Caste

What are some of the earliest sources of Sikh history? Are the sakhis of Mahan Shaheeds like Baba Deep Singh, Battle Of Chamkaur, Guru Arjan Dev Ji's Shaheed and countless other events recorded in any books or Granths? It would be great if we could list authors and names of these Granths, so that people who have interest in research could use.

Sikhism is not even popular amongst "Sikhs" never mind comparing it to other religions. The community is too ritualistic in a way, Questioning or free thinking is considered blasphemy, expecting of people to be perfect overnight, being judgmental not forgetting apathy amongst Sikh parents when teaching the next generations, and then apathy of the youth to not come forward, which leads to those dastardly old folks and mutely side kicks to freely do as they choose.